Ruthless Podcast’s Michael Duncan: ‘They’re Calling Him Ruth Bader Biden’

BAIER Let s bring ░░░░░░░░ Michael Duncan of the ░░░░░░░░ podcast PERINO Great to ░░░░░░░░ you BAIER Michael good ░░░░░░░░ Great to have you ░░░░░░░░ Good morning BAIER You ░░░░░░░░ there s a lot ░░░░░░░░ talk about the prep ░░░░░░░░ up to Thursday night ░░░░░░░░ even some talk that ░░░░░░░░ Biden is preparing for ░░░░░░░░ former President Trumps one ░░░░░░░░ s really aggressive one ░░░░░░░░ s a little bit ░░░░░░░░ aggressive but the person ░░░░░░░░ him is Bauer Take ░░░░░░░░ listen He was talking ░░░░░░░░ Bauer Clip starts Bauer ░░░░░░░░ principal objectives are first ░░░░░░░░ all to approximate as ░░░░░░░░ as you possibly can ░░░░░░░░ it is that that ░░░░░░░░ the opponent is going ░░░░░░░░ debate What arguments are ░░░░░░░░ to be made and ░░░░░░░░ are they going to ░░░░░░░░ made This is not ░░░░░░░░ Saturday Night Live impression ░░░░░░░░ don t want to ░░░░░░░░ from the serious business ░░░░░░░░ prepping the candidate Clip ░░░░░░░░ BAIER Michael there s ░░░░░░░░ lot of prep going ░░░░░░░░ up there at Camp ░░░░░░░░ and a lot of ░░░░░░░░ prepping DUNCAN Yeah no ░░░░░░░░ s I think it ░░░░░░░░ clear what Joe Biden ░░░░░░░░ wants to get out ░░░░░░░░ this debate He wants ░░░░░░░░ talk about January 6th ░░░░░░░░ 2020 election sucker Donald ░░░░░░░░ into a long drawn ░░░░░░░░ conversation about that issue ░░░░░░░░ hurts him with suburban ░░░░░░░░ He wants to talk ░░░░░░░░ a national abortion ban ░░░░░░░░ you know Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ has to not take ░░░░░░░░ bait on this He ░░░░░░░░ t do what he ░░░░░░░░ in 2020 where he ░░░░░░░░ over Joe Biden and ░░░░░░░░ Joe Biden a sympathetic ░░░░░░░░ I think he has ░░░░░░░░ sit back be a ░░░░░░░░ warrior let Joe Biden ░░░░░░░░ and bury himself PERINO ░░░░░░░░ do you think about ░░░░░░░░ expectations game Michael in ░░░░░░░░ of both sides trying ░░░░░░░░ say how one or ░░░░░░░░ other candidate will do ░░░░░░░░ should they say DUNCAN ░░░░░░░░ look I think Joe ░░░░░░░░ is certainly capable of ░░░░░░░░ a speech in front ░░░░░░░░ a teleprompter We saw ░░░░░░░░ in the State of ░░░░░░░░ Union Look he s ░░░░░░░░ all week to prepare ░░░░░░░░ this debate So I ░░░░░░░░ he s going to ░░░░░░░░ some zingers he s ░░░░░░░░ to have some pre ░░░░░░░░ one liners and all ░░░░░░░░ that sort of stuff ░░░░░░░░ I think ultimately what ░░░░░░░░ Biden s weakness is ░░░░░░░░ extemporaneous Right So how ░░░░░░░░ these moderators going to ░░░░░░░░ Joe Biden Will there ░░░░░░░░ pointed follow ups Will ░░░░░░░░ be specifics I hope ░░░░░░░░ Trump presses for that ░░░░░░░░ of engagement with Joe ░░░░░░░░ because I think that ░░░░░░░░ where Joe Biden will ░░░░░░░░ fall apart in a ░░░░░░░░ BAIER You know former ░░░░░░░░ of State former Democratic ░░░░░░░░ Hillary Clinton is weighing ░░░░░░░░ a lot lately in ░░░░░░░░ days She has a ░░░░░░░░ piece out in New ░░░░░░░░ Times I ve debated ░░░░░░░░ and Biden Here s ░░░░░░░░ I m watching Goes ░░░░░░░░ to say expectations for ░░░░░░░░ this is Trump are ░░░░░░░░ low that if he ░░░░░░░░ t literally light himself ░░░░░░░░ fire on Thursday evening ░░░░░░░░ will say he was ░░░░░░░░ presidential Mr Trump may ░░░░░░░░ and rave in part ░░░░░░░░ he wants to avoid ░░░░░░░░ straight answers about his ░░░░░░░░ positions he interrupts and ░░░░░░░░ even stalking me around ░░░░░░░░ stage at one point ░░░░░░░░ he wants to appear ░░░░░░░░ and throw his opponent ░░░░░░░░ balance Wondering how the ░░░░░░░░ Clinton advice is going ░░░░░░░░ be absorbed in Biden ░░░░░░░░ DUNCAN Yeah You know ░░░░░░░░ Bret I wouldn t ░░░░░░░░ it As a reminder ░░░░░░░░ is a candidate who ░░░░░░░░ t show up in ░░░░░░░░ without her poll numbers ░░░░░░░░ down And she obviously ░░░░░░░░ to Donald Trump and ░░░░░░░░ very poorly in those ░░░░░░░░ I think Joe Biden ░░░░░░░░ ultimate problem here in ░░░░░░░░ debate is it s ░░░░░░░░ like 2020 where a ░░░░░░░░ presidency is a hypothetical ░░░░░░░░ The American people have ░░░░░░░░ a four year record ░░░░░░░░ failure in Technicolor and ░░░░░░░░ think Donald Trump s ░░░░░░░░ job in this debate ░░░░░░░░ to pick that agenda ░░░░░░░░ that record apart PERINO ░░░░░░░░ polls have tightened in ░░░░░░░░ days right Pretty much ░░░░░░░░ we re talking 50 ░░░░░░░░ maybe Trump up a ░░░░░░░░ bit perhaps his with ░░░░░░░░ most to lose On ░░░░░░░░ scale of one to ░░░░░░░░ 10 being the highest ░░░░░░░░ important is this debate ░░░░░░░░ this point in the ░░░░░░░░ DUNCAN I think for ░░░░░░░░ Biden it s a ░░░░░░░░ It s the most ░░░░░░░░ He has to silence ░░░░░░░░ the critics and critics ░░░░░░░░ his party who don ░░░░░░░░ think he s up ░░░░░░░░ the job You know ░░░░░░░░ re calling him Ruth ░░░░░░░░ Biden right So he ░░░░░░░░ this debate He sought ░░░░░░░░ debate He wanted it ░░░░░░░░ to silence the critics ░░░░░░░░ the convention PERINO Good ░░░░░░░░ that he called for ░░░░░░░░ debate indeed Thank you ░░░░░░░░ much Michael Duncan BAIER ░░░░░░░░ Michael.”