NBC’s Todd: There Was ‘Sort of a Good Motivation’ Behind ‘Mainstream News’ ‘Deplatforming Trump’ Like Left Wanted

JANSING Chuck Todd is ░░░░░░░░ News Chief Political Analyst ░░░░░░░░ Buck is an MSNBC ░░░░░░░░ Analyst who served as ░░░░░░░░ former aide to then ░░░░░░░░ John Boehner and Paul ░░░░░░░░ OK Chuck We know ░░░░░░░░ frankly Donald Trump has ░░░░░░░░ effective messaging against Joe ░░░░░░░░ on the economy The ░░░░░░░░ that the Biden camp ░░░░░░░░ don t always match ░░░░░░░░ people are feeling right ░░░░░░░░ do you think Thursday ░░░░░░░░ going forward is inflation ░░░░░░░░ s strongest line of ░░░░░░░░ Tell me what you ░░░░░░░░ of the little tic ░░░░░░░░ side gag Todd Well ░░░░░░░░ ll say this it ░░░░░░░░ of that s actually ░░░░░░░░ a talking point away ░░░░░░░░ Joe Biden who has ░░░░░░░░ to make inflation tried ░░░░░░░░ sort of point Hey ░░░░░░░░ t point the finger ░░░░░░░░ me point the finger ░░░░░░░░ corporate America with shrinkflation ░░░░░░░░ JANSING That s right ░░░░░░░░ And I believe that ░░░░░░░░ tac there would be ░░░░░░░░ example of that on ░░░░░░░░ front You know I ░░░░░░░░ been look at the ░░░░░░░░ in general is sort ░░░░░░░░ if if the economy ░░░░░░░░ front of mind for ░░░░░░░░ last slice of voters ░░░░░░░░ s that s going ░░░░░░░░ be a problem for ░░░░░░░░ Biden and an asset ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump That s ░░░░░░░░ s his you know ░░░░░░░░ s been the go ░░░░░░░░ it s the go ░░░░░░░░ for a lot of ░░░░░░░░ right now even in ░░░░░░░░ ballot races here on ░░░░░░░░ front So I expect ░░░░░░░░ lion s share of ░░░░░░░░ on that But you ░░░░░░░░ one thing and I ░░░░░░░░ want to step back ░░░░░░░░ on overall tone you ░░░░░░░░ we re all expecting ░░░░░░░░ giant clash One thing ░░░░░░░░ I had in my ░░░░░░░░ of my mind is ░░░░░░░░ know when you know ░░░░░░░░ s going to be ░░░░░░░░ second debate you sometimes ░░░░░░░░ t use your best ░░░░░░░░ in the first debate ░░░░░░░░ Oh but come on ░░░░░░░░ these two guys the ░░░░░░░░ between them crosstalk Todd ░░░░░░░░ I understand this is ░░░░░░░░ I get it I ░░░░░░░░ all of that And ░░░░░░░░ know there s even ░░░░░░░░ that wonder will there ░░░░░░░░ a second debate But ░░░░░░░░ know both of these ░░░░░░░░ enter this debate having ░░░░░░░░ disprove stereotypes about themselves ░░░░░░░░ ways right Trump s ░░░░░░░░ to prove he s ░░░░░░░░ unhinged Biden s got ░░░░░░░░ prove he s fully ░░░░░░░░ And in in different ░░░░░░░░ they re since they ░░░░░░░░ their own sort of ░░░░░░░░ they have to they ░░░░░░░░ to sort of push ░░░░░░░░ against you know look ░░░░░░░░ m not saying everything ░░░░░░░░ go out the window ░░░░░░░░ Trump could decide to ░░░░░░░░ it a grievous a ░░░░░░░░ debate and Biden responds ░░░░░░░░ kind and off to ░░░░░░░░ races we go I ░░░░░░░░ t know though I ░░░░░░░░ like there s there ░░░░░░░░ these stakes are so ░░░░░░░░ now that you could ░░░░░░░░ too disciplined candidates on ░░░░░░░░ stage Thursday night JANSING ░░░░░░░░ as Chuck and I ░░░░░░░░ talking you had a ░░░░░░░░ effective poker face Where ░░░░░░░░ you want to weigh ░░░░░░░░ on this BUCK No ░░░░░░░░ think Chuck is onto ░░░░░░░░ there Remember the people ░░░░░░░░ are going to decide ░░░░░░░░ election are people who ░░░░░░░░ t like either of ░░░░░░░░ people And if you ░░░░░░░░ out and sort of ░░░░░░░░ yourself with your behavior ░░░░░░░░ s not going to ░░░░░░░░ you That s I ░░░░░░░░ that the most effective ░░░░░░░░ for both of these ░░░░░░░░ is to make this ░░░░░░░░ about the other one ░░░░░░░░ know obviously you want ░░░░░░░░ talk about the economy ░░░░░░░░ connect to people s ░░░░░░░░ and how you know ░░░░░░░░ they re perceiving the ░░░░░░░░ And usually I would ░░░░░░░░ and then tell people ░░░░░░░░ you re going to ░░░░░░░░ about it But I ░░░░░░░░ rather here I would ░░░░░░░░ and tell them how ░░░░░░░░ other person is going ░░░░░░░░ make it worse I ░░░░░░░░ that if Joe Biden ░░░░░░░░ if it s a ░░░░░░░░ on Joe Biden he ░░░░░░░░ t like that but ░░░░░░░░ same thing can be ░░░░░░░░ about Donald Trump This ░░░░░░░░ a different challenger a ░░░░░░░░ who has his own ░░░░░░░░ And if Joe Biden ░░░░░░░░ make this debate about ░░░░░░░░ Trump without letting Donald ░░░░░░░░ dominate the debate I ░░░░░░░░ that s his best ░░░░░░░░ to doing it and ░░░░░░░░ people not just why ░░░░░░░░ didn t like him ░░░░░░░░ first time but you ░░░░░░░░ that stuff can Wash ░░░░░░░░ you Why you didn ░░░░░░░░ like him the first ░░░░░░░░ and why your life ░░░░░░░░ going to be worse ░░░░░░░░ if he is elected ░░░░░░░░ You need to connect ░░░░░░░░ dots JANSING There s ░░░░░░░░ of an issue Chuck ░░░░░░░░ that isn t a ░░░░░░░░ issue It s not ░░░░░░░░ it s not inflation ░░░░░░░░ s not the economy ░░░░░░░░ s mental acuity right ░░░░░░░░ a lot of people ░░░░░░░░ is really the driving ░░░░░░░░ for a lot of ░░░░░░░░ They don t like ░░░░░░░░ of these guys They ░░░░░░░░ they re too old ░░░░░░░░ too doddering The Biden ░░░░░░░░ put out a video ░░░░░░░░ social media from Trump ░░░░░░░░ weekend rally in Pennsylvania ░░░░░░░░ Trump was rambling about ░░░░░░░░ pressure and lathering his ░░░░░░░░ And then Fox News ░░░░░░░░ cut him off I ░░░░░░░░ to I want to ░░░░░░░░ that for folks who ░░░░░░░░ missed it Clip starts ░░░░░░░░ I have this beautiful ░░░░░░░░ hair And I put ░░░░░░░░ on And I put ░░░░░░░░ in lather I like ░░░░░░░░ of lather because I ░░░░░░░░ it to come out ░░░░░░░░ dry Because it seems ░░░░░░░░ be slightly thicker that ░░░░░░░░ And I lather up ░░░░░░░░ then you turn on ░░░░░░░░ crazy shower and the ░░░░░░░░ drip drip and you ░░░░░░░░ I m going to ░░░░░░░░ here for 45 minutes ░░░░░░░░ both restricted Washing machines ░░░░░░░░ Wash your dishes There ░░░░░░░░ a problem They don ░░░░░░░░ want you to have ░░░░░░░░ water They want no ░░░░░░░░ and I was with ░░░░░░░░ And you were just ░░░░░░░░ to former President Trump ░░░░░░░░ we re going to ░░░░░░░░ about some of the ░░░░░░░░ he was discussing there ░░░░░░░░ ll be right back ░░░░░░░░ ends JANSING There are ░░░░░░░░ ways you could talk ░░░░░░░░ that And I guess ░░░░░░░░ stream of consciousness that ░░░░░░░░ ve seen for a ░░░░░░░░ time from Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ that s part of ░░░░░░░░ appeal frankly to his ░░░░░░░░ You think he can ░░░░░░░░ rein that in for ░░░░░░░░ debate and be more ░░░░░░░░ Todd Look I do ░░░░░░░░ to build on Brendan ░░░░░░░░ point both candidates are ░░░░░░░░ to try to bait ░░░░░░░░ other into their worst ░░░░░░░░ right You know they ░░░░░░░░ in different ways they ░░░░░░░░ going to try to ░░░░░░░░ each other And I ░░░░░░░░ no doubt Biden wants ░░░░░░░░ bait Trump into some ░░░░░░░░ those Hey what s ░░░░░░░░ you know are you ░░░░░░░░ of sharks What s ░░░░░░░░ obsession with sharks But ░░░░░░░░ I just tell you ░░░░░░░░ gets added to what ░░░░░░░░ think has been a ░░░░░░░░ mistake by the left ░░░░░░░░ general which is this ░░░░░░░░ that deplatforming Trump was ░░░░░░░░ to make him go ░░░░░░░░ I think if you ░░░░░░░░ people to decide that ░░░░░░░░ ve had enough of ░░░░░░░░ expose them to Trump ░░░░░░░░ t hide Trump from ░░░░░░░░ And I do think ░░░░░░░░ he is one of ░░░░░░░░ great strengths is that ░░░░░░░░ has created an alternative ░░░░░░░░ ecosystem and he only ░░░░░░░░ the alternative ecosystem because ░░░░░░░░ platforms like Meta and ░░░░░░░░ and and mainstream news ░░░░░░░░ stopped covering and carrying ░░░░░░░░ And I understand that ░░░░░░░░ was sort of a ░░░░░░░░ motivation behind it a ░░░░░░░░ that I understand behind ░░░░░░░░ but I think it ░░░░░░░░ sort of you know ░░░░░░░░ m a believer that ░░░░░░░░ best the best the ░░░░░░░░ way to expose something ░░░░░░░░ sunlight And that s ░░░░░░░░ reminder there The more ░░░░░░░░ re exposed to Trump ░░░░░░░░ more he can sometimes ░░░░░░░░ that middle of the ░░░░░░░░ voter off But he ░░░░░░░░ been able to hide ░░░░░░░░ version of his personality ░░░░░░░░ mainstream platforms for a ░░░░░░░░ of years now JANSING ░░░░░░░░ And so I guess ░░░░░░░░ is a key question ░░░░░░░░ much of that comes ░░░░░░░░ in the debate on ░░░░░░░░ and sometimes it s ░░░░░░░░ you know going on ░░░░░░░░ things like his hair ░░░░░░░░ know sharks as Chuck ░░░░░░░░ out But there are ░░░░░░░░ issues that have been ░░░░░░░░ for him not just ░░░░░░░░ economy but immigration It ░░░░░░░░ almost certainly going to ░░░░░░░░ a big topic at ░░░░░░░░ debate Over the weekend ░░░░░░░░ suggested that the head ░░░░░░░░ UFC should start a ░░░░░░░░ league so that migrants ░░░░░░░░ fight each other Let ░░░░░░░░ play that Clip starts ░░░░░░░░ I have an idea ░░░░░░░░ you to make a ░░░░░░░░ of money You re ░░░░░░░░ to go and start ░░░░░░░░ new migrant fight league ░░░░░░░░ only migrants And then ░░░░░░░░ the end of the ░░░░░░░░ the champion migrant is ░░░░░░░░ to fight your champion ░░░░░░░░ I hate to tell ░░░░░░░░ Dana I think that ░░░░░░░░ might win That s ░░░░░░░░ tough they are Clip ░░░░░░░░ JANSING So my question ░░░░░░░░ is do you think ░░░░░░░░ middle of the road ░░░░░░░░ somebody who truly is ░░░░░░░░ or people of color ░░░░░░░░ themselves people who came ░░░░░░░░ this country to find ░░░░░░░░ better life does that ░░░░░░░░ an impact or is ░░░░░░░░ of it just Trump ░░░░░░░░ Trump BUCK I do ░░░░░░░░ it s a little ░░░░░░░░ of Trump being Trump ░░░░░░░░ think a lot of ░░░░░░░░ just sort of roll ░░░░░░░░ eyes at that kind ░░░░░░░░ stuff because we ve ░░░░░░░░ it for so long ░░░░░░░░ mean Donald Trump has ░░░░░░░░ saying things like this ░░░░░░░░ he ran two two ░░░░░░░░ ago This is not ░░░░░░░░ anything that is new ░░░░░░░░ necessarily changing people s ░░░░░░░░ of him So this ░░░░░░░░ the sort of debate ░░░░░░░░ get stuck in is ░░░░░░░░ Joe Biden slipped his ░░░░░░░░ acuity slipped Is he ░░░░░░░░ his step Versus look ░░░░░░░░ the crazy things that ░░░░░░░░ Trump has said I ░░░░░░░░ think that that s ░░░░░░░░ a debate Democrats want ░░░░░░░░ have Donald Trump has ░░░░░░░░ said these crazy things ░░░░░░░░ yet people voted for ░░░░░░░░ in 2016 And he ░░░░░░░░ almost reelected in 2020 ░░░░░░░░ s a dramatic change ░░░░░░░░ think in Joe Biden ░░░░░░░░ the way he presents ░░░░░░░░ and it s just ░░░░░░░░ a good comparison for ░░░░░░░░ Now does Donald does ░░░░░░░░ Joe Biden need to ░░░░░░░░ some way to flip ░░░░░░░░ script on the immigration ░░░░░░░░ Absolutely But I don ░░░░░░░░ know that Joe Biden ░░░░░░░░ to find himself in ░░░░░░░░ position of defending his ░░░░░░░░ for an hour and ░░░░░░░░ half That is a ░░░░░░░░ recipe here He needs ░░░░░░░░ find some way to ░░░░░░░░ this back on what ░░░░░░░░ Trump would potentially do ░░░░░░░░ he started to do ░░░░░░░░ last week with his ░░░░░░░░ order trying to talk ░░░░░░░░ the deportation force that ░░░░░░░░ Trump is going to ░░░░░░░░ bringing There s a ░░░░░░░░ of stuff that Donald ░░░░░░░░ talks about immigration that ░░░░░░░░ very popular securing the ░░░░░░░░ but finding some way ░░░░░░░░ flip that on its ░░░░░░░░ I think is going ░░░░░░░░ be necessary JANSING Brendan ░░░░░░░░ Chuck Todd the debate ░░░░░░░░ the debate will continue ░░░░░░░░ the next couple of ░░░░░░░░ and then we get ░░░░░░░░ see it Thank you ░░░░░░░░ I appreciate it And ░░░░░░░░ sure to watch Chris ░░░░░░░░ Reports.’“