RUSH TRANSCRIPT Thank you ░░░░░░░░ much Let s talk ░░░░░░░░ about this with former ░░░░░░░░ ambassador ambassador to the ░░░░░░░░ Michael Oren who joins ░░░░░░░░ now from Tel Aviv ░░░░░░░░ I want to ask ░░░░░░░░ the deadly strike today ░░░░░░░░ yesterday The Red Cross ░░░░░░░░ at least 22 more ░░░░░░░░ killed in a strike ░░░░░░░░ did hit civilians sheltering ░░░░░░░░ a humanitarian zone and ░░░░░░░░ Gaza Now the IDF ░░░░░░░░ denying any responsibility in ░░░░░░░░ attack but I don ░░░░░░░░ wanna in a recent ░░░░░░░░ with us you talked ░░░░░░░░ how the Israeli military ░░░░░░░░ believe is the most ░░░░░░░░ army in the world ░░░░░░░░ that the country has ░░░░░░░░ extraordinary steps to limit ░░░░░░░░ casualties casualties do you ░░░░░░░░ feel confident in that ░░░░░░░░ I You Omar Absolutely ░░░░░░░░ Palestinian casualty is a ░░░░░░░░ That And one is ░░░░░░░░ to manage but we ░░░░░░░░ dealing with an enemy ░░░░░░░░ behind civilian populations beneath ░░░░░░░░ civilian populations with 400 ░░░░░░░░ of tunnels and the ░░░░░░░░ health ministry which is ░░░░░░░░ Hamas not only inflates ░░░░░░░░ figures it doesn t ░░░░░░░░ between those Palestinians are ░░░░░░░░ terrorists and about half ░░░░░░░░ least half of the ░░░░░░░░ that we know have ░░░░░░░░ killed in Gaza are ░░░░░░░░ fact terrorists and if ░░░░░░░░ add to that the ░░░░░░░░ were killed by Palestinian ░░░░░░░░ that fall we re ░░░░░░░░ 12 of their rockets ░░░░░░░░ short Over the course ░░░░░░░░ 78 months about 4 ░░░░░░░░ 5 000 people die ░░░░░░░░ natural causes There too ░░░░░░░░ you deduct all that ░░░░░░░░ ve got about one ░░░░░░░░ death to every civilian ░░░░░░░░ And that is the ░░░░░░░░ level of any modern ░░░░░░░░ in history in my ░░░░░░░░ Back in Afghanistan it ░░░░░░░░ between four to one ░░░░░░░░ nine to one of ░░░░░░░░ took a batten casualties ░░░░░░░░ yes Israel is a ░░░░░░░░ army It s doing ░░░░░░░░ utmost to avoid civilian ░░░░░░░░ There was no indiscriminate ░░░░░░░░ Bombings in Gaza go ░░░░░░░░ a very long approval ░░░░░░░░ both by the air ░░░░░░░░ as well as by ░░░░░░░░ experts And yes mistakes ░░░░░░░░ The number of Israelis ░░░░░░░░ have been killed by ░░░░░░░░ fire I m an ░░░░░░░░ combat veteran I ll ░░░░░░░░ a combat is very ░░░░░░░░ and yes there s ░░░░░░░░ filer interest incidents and ░░░░░░░░ inadvertently accidentally get killed ░░░░░░░░ the chance of that ░░░░░░░░ are increased manifold leak ░░░░░░░░ you re you re ░░░░░░░░ with me it s ░░░░░░░░ using those civilians as ░░░░░░░░ shields there s one ░░░░░░░░ way to end this ░░░░░░░░ it s over Hamas ░░░░░░░░ up the hostages and ░░░░░░░░ ends this war And ░░░░░░░░ can literally in another ░░░░░░░░ and I just want ░░░░░░░░ say for the death ░░░░░░░░ that a lot of ░░░░░░░░ numbers have come from ░░░░░░░░ Gaza health in sri ░░░░░░░░ there are UN officials ░░░░░░░░ us officials that have ░░░░░░░░ that number credible Independently ░░░░░░░░ those numbers I want ░░░░░░░░ ask you about on ░░░░░░░░ front Mr Ambassador because ░░░░░░░░ have seen there s ░░░░░░░░ s no secret that ░░░░░░░░ does seem there is ░░░░░░░░ between Israeli prime minister ░░░░░░░░ United States officials in ░░░░░░░░ cases over how the ░░░░░░░░ is being conducted but ░░░░░░░░ Netanyahu was accused the ░░░░░░░░ Administration now of width ░░░░░░░░ weapons to Israel Now ░░░░░░░░ us is strongly disputing ░░░░░░░░ and we just reported ░░░░░░░░ democratic lawmakers have lifted ░░░░░░░░ on unexpected 18 billion ░░░░░░░░ of f15 fighter jets ░░░░░░░░ do you see the ░░░░░░░░ right now between these ░░░░░░░░ longtime allies Right now ░░░░░░░░ in any way Ms ░░░░░░░░ out a spokesman for ░░░░░░░░ government and not privy ░░░░░░░░ what s going on ░░░░░░░░ closed doors What is ░░░░░░░░ though is there s ░░░░░░░░ open spat and that ░░░░░░░░ batch should not be ░░░░░░░░ It s certainly been ░░░░░░░░ shouldn t be happening ░░░░░░░░ a time Normally when ░░░░░░░░ is engaged and getting ░░░░░░░░ war with Gaza but ░░░░░░░░ the verge of a ░░░░░░░░ much broader war in ░░░░░░░░ north with hizballah a ░░░░░░░░ in which even the ░░░░░░░░ that says United States ░░░░░░░░ labeled become involved at ░░░░░░░░ in a passive way ░░░░░░░░ taking down the between ░░░░░░░░ and 6 000 rockets ░░░░░░░░ hizballah is expected to ░░░░░░░░ at Israel in that ░░░░░░░░ that conflict And these ░░░░░░░░ much bigger caracas much ░░░░░░░░ range and heavier rockets ░░░░░░░░ they re very accurate ░░░░░░░░ the United States support ░░░░░░░░ that way it would ░░░░░░░░ very much appreciated Disagreement ░░░░░░░░ t benefit either so ░░░░░░░░ doesn t better the ░░░░░░░░ States doesn t benefit ░░░░░░░░ Israel Benefits ultimately his ░░░░░░░░ Hamas won t accept ░░░░░░░░ ceasefire because the head ░░░░░░░░ Hamas Mr Sinwar believes ░░░░░░░░ times working on his ░░░░░░░░ And if you see ░░░░░░░░ and the United States ░░░░░░░░ with one another he ░░░░░░░░ conclude that pressure will ░░░░░░░░ on Israel and eventually ░░░░░░░░ rule agree to a ░░░░░░░░ ceasefire that will enable ░░░░░░░░ to come out of ░░░░░░░░ tunnels and declare victory ░░░░░░░░ reconquer Gaza and stages ░░░░░░░░ next attack against Israel ░░░░░░░░ balah is saying it ░░░░░░░░ t accept a ceasefire ░░░░░░░░ Hamas does you see ░░░░░░░░ this all holds together ░░░░░░░░ this actual type of ░░░░░░░░ is frankly endangering the ░░░░░░░░ region and increasing the ░░░░░░░░ for a much border ░░░░░░░░ broader much more destructive ░░░░░░░░ and of course as ░░░░░░░░ keep an eye and ░░░░░░░░ tensions that have happened ░░░░░░░░ northern Israel on the ░░░░░░░░ with Hezbollah as well ░░░░░░░░ I really appreciate the ░░░░░░░░ perspective Thanks for being ░░░░░░░░