RUSH TRANSCRIPT Indeed Katelyn ░░░░░░░░ Thank you very much ░░░░░░░░ s break all of ░░░░░░░░ down with our legal ░░░░░░░░ political experts Parlatore let ░░░░░░░░ start with you You ░░░░░░░░ former Trump attorney You ░░░░░░░░ that Trump sentence will ░░░░░░░░ less than a year ░░░░░░░░ served at the notorious ░░░░░░░░ shubi to run question ░░░░░░░░ you I want to ░░░░░░░░ your reaction First of ░░░░░░░░ to the special counsel ░░░░░░░░ Smith s latest request ░░░░░░░░ a gag order in ░░░░░░░░ classified documents case What ░░░░░░░░ you think Generally been ░░░░░░░░ gag orders with Donald ░░░░░░░░ I mean a gag ░░░░░░░░ is something that s ░░░░░░░░ very rarely used And ░░░░░░░░ for very limited purpose ░░░░░░░░ re presumptively unconstitutional because ░░░░░░░░ s a prospective restriction ░░░░░░░░ free speech rights it ░░░░░░░░ to be done to ░░░░░░░░ the integrity of the ░░░░░░░░ And to simply ask ░░░░░░░░ a gag order because ░░░░░░░░ don t like that ░░░░░░░░ said something that turned ░░░░░░░░ to be false I ░░░░░░░░ that they would have ░░░░░░░░ tie that to some ░░░░░░░░ of a specific threat ░░░░░░░░ even if you look ░░░░░░░░ what he s saying ░░░░░░░░ s saying all the ░░░░░░░░ Administration wanted them to ░░░░░░░░ me I don t ░░░░░░░░ anybody s taken conviction ░░░░░░░░ New York will add ░░░░░░░░ to this request for ░░░░░░░░ gag order Been convicted ░░░░░░░░ New York doesn t ░░░░░░░░ that your First Amendment ░░░░░░░░ or any less anywhere ░░░░░░░░ and so I think ░░░░░░░░ quite frankly the fact ░░░░░░░░ he s been convicted ░░░░░░░░ New York should be ░░░░░░░░ grounds to lift the ░░░░░░░░ order in New York ░░░░░░░░ there s no longer ░░░░░░░░ trial to protect There ░░░░░░░░ no longer any jury ░░░░░░░░ to protect for their ░░░░░░░░ are no longer any ░░░░░░░░ to prevent the intimidation ░░░░░░░░ and so gag orders ░░░░░░░░ usually expire as soon ░░░░░░░░ the jury is sworn ░░░░░░░░ Here was kept a ░░░░░░░░ bit later to protect ░░░░░░░░ witnesses But certainly by ░░░░░░░░ time there s a ░░░░░░░░ there s no need ░░░░░░░░ keep the gag order ░░░░░░░░ place under the laws ░░░░░░░░ the state of New ░░░░░░░░ will see how the ░░░░░░░░ Aileen Cannon response to ░░░░░░░░ special counsel Jack Smith ░░░░░░░░ request for a gag ░░░░░░░░ against Trump This is ░░░░░░░░ development potentially norm you ░░░░░░░░ the one who predicted ░░░░░░░░ Trump sentence will be ░░░░░░░░ than a year sure ░░░░░░░░ could be served at ░░░░░░░░ notorious rikers island jail ░░░░░░░░ New York City How ░░░░░░░░ you think judge merchan ░░░░░░░░ weigh security concerns if ░░░░░░░░ sentences a former president ░░░░░░░░ the United States wealth ░░░░░░░░ think he ll take ░░░░░░░░ concerns very seriously since ░░░░░░░░ did the initial analysis ░░░░░░░░ of the likely sentence ░░░░░░░░ Trump would face it ░░░░░░░░ likely it s not ░░░░░░░░ that he ll get ░░░░░░░░ sentence of jail time ░░░░░░░░ ve had the opportunity ░░░░░░░░ observe judge merchan in ░░░░░░░░ every day throughout this ░░░░░░░░ More than three decades ░░░░░░░░ law I ve ever ░░░░░░░░ seeing a better judge ░░░░░░░░ Tim has tried a ░░░░░░░░ I have four judging ░░░░░░░░ Sean Outstanding he s ░░░░░░░░ outstanding judge for that ░░░░░░░░ Factors in determining whether ░░░░░░░░ not to sentence Donald ░░░░░░░░ to jail the secure ░░░░░░░░ he talked about this ░░░░░░░░ day in court when ░░░░░░░░ had committed his tenth ░░░░░░░░ of the gag order ░░░░░░░░ findings of contempt He ░░░░░░░░ if you do it ░░░░░░░░ I m going to ░░░░░░░░ to put you in ░░░░░░░░ and that will be ░░░░░░░░ hard including for those ░░░░░░░░ concerns But will there ░░░░░░░░ factors that at the ░░░░░░░░ way the seriousness of ░░░░░░░░ crime this jury found ░░░░░░░░ interference conspiracy and other ░░░░░░░░ Tough choice for judge ░░░░░░░░ very tough and de ░░░░░░░░ ll see what he ░░░░░░░░ that s coming up ░░░░░░░░ you ve seen a ░░░░░░░░ of Republicans now rallying ░░░░░░░░ Trump s defense supporting ░░░░░░░░ saying all sorts of ░░░░░░░░ in effect echoey with ░░░░░░░░ has been saying do ░░░░░░░░ think this is a ░░░░░░░░ strategy for the GOP ░░░░░░░░ Bragg has done something ░░░░░░░░ know Republican could do ░░░░░░░░ is unify Republicans refocused ░░░░░░░░ like each other very ░░░░░░░░ today s yes the ░░░░░░░░ are you in New ░░░░░░░░ I think there s ░░░░░░░░ real opportunity for Donald ░░░░░░░░ here politically If he ░░░░░░░░ willing to take it ░░░░░░░░ he s discipline Poland ░░░░░░░░ to take it Number ░░░░░░░░ turnout two big factor ░░░░░░░░ any presidential election both ░░░░░░░░ candidates are unfavorable This ░░░░░░░░ unified as base Secondly ░░░░░░░░ group that really matters ░░░░░░░░ people in the middle ░░░░░░░░ are unfavorable to both ░░░░░░░░ them Nothing is now ░░░░░░░░ about Donald Trump This ░░░░░░░░ verdict and bring out ░░░░░░░░ new facts that anyone ░░░░░░░░ t know So if ░░░░░░░░ re already unfavorable to ░░░░░░░░ you knew these things ░░░░░░░░ does give him a ░░░░░░░░ cry and he s ░░░░░░░░ to have to be ░░░░░░░░ to project that forward ░░░░░░░░ say this is really ░░░░░░░░ Democrats tried to deny ░░░░░░░░ voters a choice make ░░░░░░░░ more about the voters ░░░░░░░░ not about himself He ░░░░░░░░ it about himself it ░░░░░░░░ gonna be a problem ░░░░░░░░ do you make of ░░░░░░░░ way the president United ░░░░░░░░ Kate responded to Trump ░░░░░░░░ guilty verdict where he ░░░░░░░░ you just broadly the ░░░░░░░░ To do here is ░░░░░░░░ a needle that he ░░░░░░░░ doing which is he ░░░░░░░░ to not politicized It ░░░░░░░░ not not contribute to ░░░░░░░░ idea of the framework ░░░░░░░░ the Trump campaign payne ░░░░░░░░ to paint around this ░░░░░░░░ is at its politicize ░░░░░░░░ s all Biden s ░░░░░░░░ So he s got ░░░░░░░░ be I think he ░░░░░░░░ to be restrained as ░░░░░░░░ has been throughout this ░░░░░░░░ But this I would ░░░░░░░░ would disagree with Brad ░░░░░░░░ I actually think this ░░░░░░░░ an opportunity for Biden ░░░░░░░░ think for these for ░░░░░░░░ swing voters who are ░░░░░░░░ gonna be able to ░░░░░░░░ the idea of voting ░░░░░░░░ a convicted felon for ░░░░░░░░ to drive effectively that ░░░░░░░░ is somebody who has ░░░░░░░░ the law has been ░░░░░░░░ guilty by a jury ░░░░░░░░ his peers and use ░░░░░░░░ to paint a bigger ░░░░░░░░ about Donald Trump And ░░░░░░░░ fact that only cares ░░░░░░░░ himself that he s ░░░░░░░░ to lie and cheat ░░░░░░░░ steal to get what ░░░░░░░░ wants that he cares ░░░░░░░░ him He doesn t ░░░░░░░░ about you I think ░░░░░░░░ can use that as ░░░░░░░░ s making in this ░░░░░░░░ message And I think ░░░░░░░░ saw him walk that ░░░░░░░░ today of not overly ░░░░░░░░ but being very clear ░░░░░░░░ what Donald Trump has ░░░░░░░░ makes him unfit to ░░░░░░░░ president the United States ░░░░░░░░ let me get back ░░░░░░░░ Tim Tim you say ░░░░░░░░ think Trump needs to ░░░░░░░░ silent at least until ░░░░░░░░ 11 sentencing but you ░░░░░░░░ he can your hurt ░░░░░░░░ m just going after ░░░░░░░░ Cohen didn t mentioned ░░░░░░░░ Cohen by name but ░░░░░░░░ him and called him ░░░░░░░░ sleazebags one thing I ░░░░░░░░ t understand is why ░░░░░░░░ Blanche hasn t gotten ░░░░░░░░ the judge to ask ░░░░░░░░ vacate the gag order ░░░░░░░░ this point Violating the ░░░░░░░░ order is something that ░░░░░░░░ be easily dealt with ░░░░░░░░ he needs to stay ░░░░░░░░ Obviously he s a ░░░░░░░░ for president So the ░░░░░░░░ of him saying silent ░░░░░░░░ the courtroom is one ░░░░░░░░ my concern more is ░░░░░░░░ staying silent inside the ░░░░░░░░ because when he goes ░░░░░░░░ on July 11 the ░░░░░░░░ is going to say ░░░░░░░░ I sentence you do ░░░░░░░░ anything to say Recommend ░░░░░░░░ to say I rely ░░░░░░░░ the words of my ░░░░░░░░ here because they re ░░░░░░░░ to have to thread ░░░░░░░░ very slim needle here ░░░░░░░░ he still maintaining his ░░░░░░░░ and what I do ░░░░░░░░ these types of situations ░░░░░░░░ I say you re ░░░░░░░░ my client has his ░░░░░░░░ writes he s going ░░░░░░░░ be pursuing during his ░░░░░░░░ and as such he ░░░░░░░░ maintaining his innocence and ░░░░░░░░ asked you to not ░░░░░░░░ that not hold that ░░░░░░░░ them and sentencing About ░░░░░░░░ other factors and steer ░░░░░░░░ judge to all of ░░░░░░░░ other considerations that normal ░░░░░░░░ just talking about The ░░░░░░░░ says anything other than ░░░░░░░░ rely upon what my ░░░░░░░░ said and I m ░░░░░░░░ very sorry the sentence ░░░░░░░░ up We could say ░░░░░░░░ could show some remorse ░░░░░░░░ has shown no remorse ░░░░░░░░ all To happen in ░░░░░░░░ case especially with the ░░░░░░░░ with the appeal that ░░░░░░░░ intend to