Andy McCarthy on Trump Trial: ‘They Haven’t Come Close to Proving that Fraud Has Taken Place’

HEMMER OK All right ░░░░░░░░ McCarthy you ve been ░░░░░░░░ all weekend Now is ░░░░░░░░ chance all right to ░░░░░░░░ what you re thinking ░░░░░░░░ fraud Has the state ░░░░░░░░ that fraud has taken ░░░░░░░░ McCarthy No As Jonathan ░░░░░░░░ pointed out they haven ░░░░░░░░ come close to proving ░░░░░░░░ fraud has taken place ░░░░░░░░ it s they don ░░░░░░░░ just have to prove ░░░░░░░░ fraud has taken place ░░░░░░░░ have to prove that ░░░░░░░░ was fraud that included ░░░░░░░░ specific intent to commit ░░░░░░░░ crime which we believe ░░░░░░░░ a federal campaign finance ░░░░░░░░ It s astonishing that ░░░░░░░░ don t we can ░░░░░░░░ say that with complete ░░░░░░░░ and that s supposed ░░░░░░░░ be spelled out in ░░░░░░░░ indictment But there s ░░░░░░░░ a scintilla of evidence ░░░░░░░░ Trump was even thinking ░░░░░░░░ federal campaign law let ░░░░░░░░ that they conspired to ░░░░░░░░ it And I think ░░░░░░░░ s important to to ░░░░░░░░ this distinction You know ░░░░░░░░ can make an agreement ░░░░░░░░ is Jonathan just said ░░░░░░░░ is a legal arrangement ░░░░░░░░ not disclose or to ░░░░░░░░ to bury politically embarrassing ░░░░░░░░ you could absolutely intend ░░░░░░░░ do that That doesn ░░░░░░░░ mean that you re ░░░░░░░░ thinking about the federal ░░░░░░░░ finance laws much less ░░░░░░░░ violating them beyond a ░░░░░░░░ doubt which is what ░░░░░░░░ has to prove here ░░░░░░░░ get a conviction at ░░░░░░░░ as a matter of ░░░░░░░░ whether they can Sway ░░░░░░░░ jury is another matter ░░░░░░░░ the the final thing ░░░░░░░░ would say about this ░░░░░░░░ you know you can ░░░░░░░░ somebody who is even ░░░░░░░░ convicted perjurer on the ░░░░░░░░ but generally the the ░░░░░░░░ that a prosecutor makes ░░░░░░░░ a jury in terms ░░░░░░░░ the commitment that you ░░░░░░░░ in the opening statement ░░░░░░░░ the way you try ░░░░░░░░ case is that we ░░░░░░░░ not going to ask ░░░░░░░░ to convict on the ░░░░░░░░ of a perjurer s ░░░░░░░░ unless we can show ░░░░░░░░ a document or other ░░░░░░░░ or something that corroborates ░░░░░░░░ witness on this disputed ░░░░░░░░ To repeat what Jonathan ░░░░░░░░ said as starkly as ░░░░░░░░ can they are asking ░░░░░░░░ jury they have to ░░░░░░░░ this jury if they ░░░░░░░░ going to convict on ░░░░░░░░ to accept this guy ░░░░░░░░ uncorroborated testimony despite his ░░░░░░░░ credibility problems That is ░░░░░░░░ something a prosecutor wouldn ░░░░░░░░ ordinarily do which is ░░░░░░░░ I think the the ░░░░░░░░ in my old office ░░░░░░░░ Southern District of New ░░░░░░░░ decided not to pursue ░░░░░░░░ case.”