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Daniel Turner Appears on KFTK’s ‘The Mark Reardon Show’ to Discuss Energy
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KFTK-FM (97.1 FM; St. Louis, Mo.)

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The Mark Reardon Show
Name: The Mark Reardon Show
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Mark Reardon
, Daniel Turner

Name: Mark Reardon
Employment: Audacy
Position: Podcast Host

Name: Daniel Turner
Employment: Power The Future
Position: Founder & Executive Director
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RUSH TRANSCRIPT The hour ░░░░░░░░ then Alex rich from ░░░░░░░░ idea I got a ░░░░░░░░ of stuff to toss ░░░░░░░░ to the team This ░░░░░░░░ but Daniel turn is ░░░░░░░░ with this deception To ░░░░░░░░ about some issues related ░░░░░░░░ energy he is the ░░░░░░░░ power The future in ░░░░░░░░ was some rules It ░░░░░░░░ out that were rewritten ░░░░░░░░ the EPA Under covered ░░░░░░░░ the legacy media mainly ░░░░░░░░ well maybe all media ░░░░░░░░ of new cycle has ░░░░░░░░ so busy but Daniel ░░░░░░░░ How are you welcome ░░░░░░░░ to 90 seven one ░░░░░░░░ talk in St Louis ░░░░░░░░ it is going to ░░░░░░░░ all things are avid ░░░░░░░░ so this is something ░░░░░░░░ they tried to I ░░░░░░░░ they can try to ░░░░░░░░ with EPA wrote this ░░░░░░░░ last Legislation This is ░░░░░░░░ written by the people ░░░░░░░░ represent us in a ░░░░░░░░ form of government This ░░░░░░░░ just pulling the levers ░░░░░░░░ big government right This ░░░░░░░░ the by administration Knowing ░░░░░░░░ s no appetite for ░░░░░░░░ of this climate radical ░░░░░░░░ really gonna hurt the ░░░░░░░░ energy industry hurt our ░░░░░░░░ grid but won t ░░░░░░░░ to that But Biden ░░░░░░░░ there s no appetite ░░░░░░░░ this so you has ░░░░░░░░ use the big bad ░░░░░░░░ executive orders and all ░░░░░░░░ these walls and the ░░░░░░░░ to push an agenda ░░░░░░░░ nobody wants So what ░░░░░░░░ this specifically target Was ░░░░░░░░ basically about coal plants ░░░░░░░░ does this also Out ░░░░░░░░ coal on it It ░░░░░░░░ you know there s ░░░░░░░░ misconception that we burn ░░░░░░░░ dirty in America and ░░░░░░░░ don t people have ░░░░░░░░ images of coal smoke ░░░░░░░░ and they see the ░░░░░░░░ the plumes billowing out ░░░░░░░░ s water vapor right ░░░░░░░░ s not smoke There ░░░░░░░░ not really pollute and ░░░░░░░░ s kind of it ░░░░░░░░ the flat out lie ░░░░░░░░ have this notion that ░░░░░░░░ for coal We would ░░░░░░░░ be the healthiest people ░░░░░░░░ the world and so ░░░░░░░░ have to get rid ░░░░░░░░ coal so they put ░░░░░░░░ a regulation that is ░░░░░░░░ so impossible to achieve ░░░░░░░░ it will force cold ░░░░░░░░ that that the reason ░░░░░░░░ they re doing this ░░░░░░░░ because they have hated ░░░░░░░░ coal industry for years ░░░░░░░░ started the war on ░░░░░░░░ and in all we ░░░░░░░░ done as we made ░░░░░░░░ electric grid less reliable ░░░░░░░░ we driven up the ░░░░░░░░ What I m burning ░░░░░░░░ coal in America we ░░░░░░░░ just paying a lot ░░░░░░░░ for it because we ░░░░░░░░ it very very hard ░░░░░░░░ coal to be produced ░░░░░░░░ the way As you ░░░░░░░░ local Missouri Coal is ░░░░░░░░ sixty six percent As ░░░░░░░░ estimate From coal and ░░░░░░░░ are not going to ░░░░░░░░ that with wind and ░░░░░░░░ No time soon and ░░░░░░░░ put on social media ░░░░░░░░ the other day Of ░░░░░░░░ eight hundred and fifty ░░░░░░░░ You know that powers ░░░░░░░░ the hundred and fifty ░░░░░░░░ homes two hundred thousand ░░░░░░░░ and eight hundred and ░░░░░░░░ megawatt coal plant is ░░░░░░░░ about a 10 11 ░░░░░░░░ plot of land that ░░░░░░░░ to eight hundred megawatts ░░░░░░░░ hundred and fifty megawatts ░░░░░░░░ t eat around five ░░░░░░░░ acres of solar and ░░░░░░░░ Only works has the ░░░░░░░░ Is that right It ░░░░░░░░ t work at night ░░░░░░░░ even when it s ░░░░░░░░ sunny it only works ░░░░░░░░ 15 percent So if ░░░░░░░░ re going to get ░░░░░░░░ of one coal plant ░░░░░░░░ 10 acres and replace ░░░░░░░░ with five thousand acres ░░░░░░░░ we re going to ░░░░░░░░ this hundreds of times ░░░░░░░░ I got a simple ░░░░░░░░ there for your wonderful ░░░░░░░░ where we get in ░░░░░░░░ land from by where ░░░░░░░░ going to get these ░░░░░░░░ of acres of land ░░░░░░░░ s just absurd 20 ░░░░░░░░ essentially across the country ░░░░░░░░ from coal and that ░░░░░░░░ were really lopsided here ░░░░░░░░ sixty six percent coming ░░░░░░░░ calls We would maybe ░░░░░░░░ certainly be affected by ░░░░░░░░ of this more than ░░░░░░░░ rest of the country ░░░░░░░░ you re right about ░░░░░░░░ of those points and ░░░░░░░░ know because you re ░░░░░░░░ expert not track some ░░░░░░░░ this year with the ░░░░░░░░ Decade and into what ░░░░░░░░ happening with Joe Biden ░░░░░░░░ call and yeah it ░░░░░░░░ been an absolute war ░░░░░░░░ called obviously gay and ░░░░░░░░ about this before I ░░░░░░░░ so confused as to ░░░░░░░░ we didn t put ░░░░░░░░ I guess I know ░░░░░░░░ the environment a radical ░░░░░░░░ but why would focus ░░░░░░░░ on nuclear energy in ░░░░░░░░ country We should be ░░░░░░░░ coal plants we should ░░░░░░░░ building natural gas plants ░░░░░░░░ Electricity is is essential ░░░░░░░░ our livelihood and not ░░░░░░░░ because of the way ░░░░░░░░ ve grown up in ░░░░░░░░ watch TV but think ░░░░░░░░ the way the think ░░░░░░░░ the direction our economy ░░░░░░░░ galling the direction the ░░░░░░░░ our are All electric ░░░░░░░░ case in point I ░░░░░░░░ ask anyone s age ░░░░░░░░ I am of an ░░░░░░░░ that I do remember ░░░░░░░░ yellow pages and you ░░░░░░░░ things up or we ░░░░░░░░ t do that now ░░░░░░░░ need to know the ░░░░░░░░ of the restaurant you ░░░░░░░░ it or you pull ░░░░░░░░ up on your phone ░░░░░░░░ that s electricity rate ░░░░░░░░ number isn t stored ░░░░░░░░ your phone That is ░░░░░░░░ to a search and ░░░░░░░░ in one of those ░░░░░░░░ data farms and how ░░░░░░░░ what are we talking ░░░░░░░░ building data farms and ░░░░░░░░ centers to get you ░░░░░░░░ information It gets itchy ░░░░░░░░ but it requires a ░░░░░░░░ of energy Are we ░░░░░░░░ to go back to ░░░░░░░░ yellow pages of course ░░░░░░░░ right and new You ░░░░░░░░ that across all the ░░░░░░░░ that we do now ░░░░░░░░ energy intensive our lifestyle ░░░░░░░░ so we re using ░░░░░░░░ and more electricity and ░░░░░░░░ we re pushing policies ░░░░░░░░ will make electricity expensive ░░░░░░░░ it s an intermittent ░░░░░░░░ I yeah I do ░░░░░░░░ The yellow pages sadly ░░░░░░░░ how we can just ░░░░░░░░ in the past but ░░░░░░░░ at this let s ░░░░░░░░ a little bit more ░░░░░░░░ a conversation about E ░░░░░░░░ because I really do ░░░░░░░░ like there is People ░░░░░░░░ this country just because ░░░░░░░░ the way that it ░░░░░░░░ discussed in the legacy ░░░░░░░░ that if you have ░░░░░░░░ electric car if you ░░░░░░░░ lucky enough to have ░░░░░░░░ Tesla something of that ░░░░░░░░ That s just magically ░░░░░░░░ There s no electricity ░░░░░░░░ for that There s ░░░░░░░░ natural gas that you ░░░░░░░░ wave a magic wand ░░░░░░░░ that evie is powered ░░░░░░░░ long as you plug ░░░░░░░░ in don t you ░░░░░░░░ that that s what ░░░░░░░░ sort of think because ░░░░░░░░ don t want once ░░░░░░░░ start once you start ░░░░░░░░ through the process of ░░░░░░░░ I need a charging ░░░░░░░░ in Oh it s ░░░░░░░░ s other cars that ░░░░░░░░ charging station I m ░░░░░░░░ going to get as ░░░░░░░░ power And oh then ░░░░░░░░ the power s drawn ░░░░░░░░ at the power station ░░░░░░░░ much power I get ░░░░░░░░ go across the state ░░░░░░░░ these things But if ░░░░░░░░ don t have any ░░░░░░░░ don t really think ░░░░░░░░ that in you think ░░░░░░░░ Our administration people to ░░░░░░░░ Jennifer granholm secretary of ░░░░░░░░ and as respectively They ░░░░░░░░ often say things like ░░░░░░░░ you have any be ░░░░░░░░ to worry about gas ░░░░░░░░ and and that may ░░░░░░░░ true But if you ░░░░░░░░ an easy and you ░░░░░░░░ to build a home ░░░░░░░░ station while the chargers ░░░░░░░░ other cheap ones are ░░░░░░░░ or four thousand dollars ░░░░░░░░ good ones the really ░░░░░░░░ ones are 11 to ░░░░░░░░ thousand dollars and now ░░░░░░░░ to hire an electrician ░░░░░░░░ actually install it and ░░░░░░░░ it But you can ░░░░░░░░ anticipate your electric bill ░░░░░░░░ up around three hundred ░░░░░░░░ hundred dollars a month ░░░░░░░░ yeah you re not ░░░░░░░░ for gas But this ░░░░░░░░ not free and now ░░░░░░░░ happens when the electricity ░░░░░░░░ out right What happens ░░░░░░░░ the the grid fails ░░░░░░░░ our greatest failing more ░░░░░░░░ more while my combustion ░░░░░░░░ gonna work fine and ░░░░░░░░ your easy is now ░░░░░░░░ useless Strides outlets I ░░░░░░░░ a little bit more ░░░░░░░░ the grid because eat ░░░░░░░░ do seem to be ░░░░░░░░ a situation We know ░░░░░░░░ happened in the south ░░░░░░░░ think that was down ░░░░░░░░ Texas and pretty gutsy ░░░░░░░░ three summers but you ░░░░░░░░ have predictions this time ░░░░░░░░ year the grid zack ░░░░░░░░ a hold up We ░░░░░░░░ a wild swings in ░░░░░░░░ with is we didn ░░░░░░░░ really see a lot ░░░░░░░░ manifests itself in last ░░░░░░░░ years and I m ░░░░░░░░ that that s not ░░░░░░░░ reality that lingers out ░░░░░░░░ but what is the ░░░░░░░░ of what the great ░░░░░░░░ handle right now and ░░░░░░░░ the risk their Daniel ░░░░░░░░ Well this is the ░░░░░░░░ the debate administration is ░░░░░░░░ showing like let us ░░░░░░░░ nothing bad happens But ░░░░░░░░ you look at reports ░░░░░░░░ all last year and ░░░░░░░░ only use the most ░░░░░░░░ and it s all ░░░░░░░░ we re running air ░░░░░░░░ systems the you do ░░░░░░░░ messages from the governor ░░░░░░░░ California The governor Pushed ░░░░░░░░ capacity We encourage you ░░░░░░░░ not do laundry right ░░░░░░░░ t want your dryer ░░░░░░░░ encourage you to not ░░░░░░░░ or electric vehicles right ░░░░░░░░ What will that s ░░░░░░░░ right It is not ░░░░░░░░ Is not my job ░░░░░░░░ curtail my lifestyle because ░░░░░░░░ the government are failing ░░░░░░░░ your job That s ░░░░░░░░ failed coup entries Do ░░░░░░░░ s what failed states ░░░░░░░░ and they re trying ░░░░░░░░ make just become commonplace ░░░░░░░░ yeah I think the ░░░░░░░░ grid is absolutely at ░░░░░░░░ brink nationwide It is ░░░░░░░░ the brink nationwide and ░░░░░░░░ just one bad push ░░░░░░░░ wrong direction Here s ░░░░░░░░ simple thing look at ░░░░░░░░ amount of hurricanes tornadoes ░░░░░░░░ we had in the ░░░░░░░░ couple of days very ░░░░░░░░ This time of years ░░░░░░░░ s tornado season s ░░░░░░░░ alley What is a ░░░░░░░░ thousand acre solar farm ░░░░░░░░ against a tornado but ░░░░░░░░ know what with sands ░░░░░░░░ tornado the coal plant ░░░░░░░░ so what is gonna ░░░░░░░░ when we get rid ░░░░░░░░ all of our coal ░░░░░░░░ and we build wind ░░░░░░░░ one good ice storm ░░░░░░░░ one good hailstorm It ░░░░░░░░ ruling That s an ░░░░░░░░ point I got don ░░░░░░░░ know that I ve ░░░░░░░░ know ye That s ░░░░░░░░ interesting to me because ░░░░░░░░ s there s some ░░░░░░░░ area if drives and ░░░░░░░░ ll do this very ░░░░░░░░ anymore I used to ░░░░░░░░ if you go between ░░░░░░░░ is in Chicago on ░░░░░░░░ fifty five you get ░░░░░░░░ blooming tin there in ░░░░░░░░ first time I did ░░░░░░░░ a few summers ago ░░░░░░░░ I realized what was ░░░░░░░░ Look like aliens were ░░░░░░░░ landing in the evening ░░░░░░░░ was taken a trip ░░░░░░░░ on a Friday night ░░░░░░░░ all of these Some ░░░░░░░░ a wind farms exist ░░░░░░░░ they go on seemingly ░░░░░░░░ but you raise a ░░░░░░░░ point I really thought ░░░░░░░░ a tornado taken a ░░░░░░░░ of those things off ░░░░░░░░ would be a major ░░░░░░░░ problem no doubt about ░░░░░░░░ Right and and I ░░░░░░░░ not knocking this industry ░░░░░░░░ m just saying that ░░░░░░░░ is no perfection in ░░░░░░░░ world I will walks ░░░░░░░░ through all of the ░░░░░░░░ of fossil fuels I ░░░░░░░░ walk you through all ░░░░░░░░ drawbacks all of the ░░░░░░░░ but we have to ░░░░░░░░ pretending that wind and ░░░░░░░░ and movies are flawless ░░░░░░░░ have their challenges and ░░░░░░░░ and quite frankly when ░░░░░░░░ way to compared to ░░░░░░░░ other in the context ░░░░░░░░ the quality of life ░░░░░░░░ have and the way ░░░░░░░░ like to have our ░░░░░░░░ in our convenience Fossil ░░░░░░░░ win every single time ░░░░░░░░ that honest conversation is ░░░░░░░░ taking place right down ░░░░░░░░ American people are learning ░░░░░░░░ Always going to have ░░░░░░░░ I really appreciate power ░░░░░░░░ future is the group ░░░░░░░░ keep bottom and will ░░░░░░░░ where this takes us ░░░░░░░░ very preset have a ░░░░░░░░ week Daniel Thank you ░░░░░░░░ We with the a ░░░░░░░░ sixty four will wrap ░░░░░░░░ up for this salary.
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