Fmr. Trump Official Says She ‘Has to Put Policy Aside’ and Vote for Biden Because Ex-President ‘Will Not Uphold the Constitution’

PSAKI This may come ░░░░░░░░ a shock to you ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump actually didn ░░░░░░░░ spend the day in ░░░░░░░░ today But not to ░░░░░░░░ he will be back ░░░░░░░░ court tomorrow Plenty to ░░░░░░░░ I m sure And ░░░░░░░░ it comes to the ░░░░░░░░ in Manhattan he is ░░░░░░░░ course innocent until proven ░░░░░░░░ That is how it ░░░░░░░░ But let s not ░░░░░░░░ he has already been ░░░░░░░░ liable for business fraud ░░░░░░░░ for sexual abuse He ░░░░░░░░ still facing criminal charges ░░░░░░░░ Washington D C and ░░░░░░░░ Florida and in Georgia ░░░░░░░░ was also just named ░░░░░░░░ unindicted co conspirator in ░░░░░░░░ and in Michigan And ░░░░░░░░ now the basic thrust ░░░░░░░░ his campaign message is ░░░░░░░░ presidents should be immune ░░░░░░░░ prosecution so they can ░░░░░░░░ a coup and commit ░░░░░░░░ at will That is ░░░░░░░░ where we are right ░░░░░░░░ And yet leaders in ░░░░░░░░ Republican Party are closing ░░░░░░░░ around their likely nominee ░░░░░░░░ many who clearly know ░░░░░░░░ Consider this Just a ░░░░░░░░ months ago Florida Governor ░░░░░░░░ DeSantis basically mocked people ░░░░░░░░ bend the knee and ░░░░░░░░ Trump s ring Clip ░░░░░░░░ DeSantis You can be ░░░░░░░░ strongest most dynamic successful ░░░░░░░░ and conservative in America ░░░░░░░░ if you don t ░░░░░░░░ that ring then he ░░░░░░░░ try to trash you ░░░░░░░░ know what You deserve ░░░░░░░░ nominee that s going ░░░░░░░░ put you first not ░░░░░░░░ first Clip ends PSAKI ░░░░░░░░ out that one didn ░░░░░░░░ exactly age well Because ░░░░░░░░ this weekend Governor Ron ░░░░░░░░ went down to Miami ░░░░░░░░ do the exact thing ░░░░░░░░ roundly mocked once upon ░░░░░░░░ time not that long ░░░░░░░░ He reportedly met with ░░░░░░░░ to bury the hatchet ░░░░░░░░ discuss fundraising for the ░░░░░░░░ general election campaign That ░░░░░░░░ just the most recent ░░░░░░░░ of a leading Republican ░░░░░░░░ at one point called ░░░░░░░░ Trump for being the ░░░░░░░░ immoral figure that he ░░░░░░░░ before falling right back ░░░░░░░░ line Take for example ░░░░░░░░ s former Attorney General ░░░░░░░░ Barr who at one ░░░░░░░░ seemed more than willing ░░░░░░░░ tell it like it ░░░░░░░░ Clip starts Barr He ░░░░░░░░ a lot of people ░░░░░░░░ follow him stubbornly and ░░░░░░░░ of the interesting things ░░░░░░░░ people that actually have ░░░░░░░░ with him have seen ░░░░░░░░ have seen him behind ░░░░░░░░ scenes not many of ░░░░░░░░ are supporting him Clip ░░░░░░░░ PSAKI Here is the ░░░░░░░░ Apparently there are a ░░░░░░░░ of Republicans who seem ░░░░░░░░ be tolerant of behavior ░░░░░░░░ don t think is ░░░░░░░░ for the chief executive ░░░░░░░░ apparently now you Mr ░░░░░░░░ Barr Clip starts Collins ░░░░░░░░ just to be clear ░░░░░░░░ are voting for someone ░░░░░░░░ you believe tried to ░░░░░░░░ the peaceful transfer of ░░░░░░░░ that can t even ░░░░░░░░ his own policies that ░░░░░░░░ about the election even ░░░░░░░░ his attorney general told ░░░░░░░░ that the election wasn ░░░░░░░░ stolen and as the ░░░░░░░░ chief law enforcement in ░░░░░░░░ country you will vote ░░░░░░░░ someone who is facing ░░░░░░░░ criminal counts Barr The ░░░░░░░░ to your question is ░░░░░░░░ Clip ends PSAKI The ░░░░░░░░ to the question is ░░░░░░░░ That was almost hard ░░░░░░░░ watch Okay how about ░░░░░░░░ Hampshire Governor Chris Sununu ░░░░░░░░ at one point had ░░░░░░░░ to say about Trump ░░░░░░░░ here on our show ░░░░░░░░ last year Clip starts ░░░░░░░░ You would support him ░░░░░░░░ president even though he ░░░░░░░░ convicted of classified documents ░░░░░░░░ d support him for ░░░░░░░░ even though you believe ░░░░░░░░ contributed to an instruction ░░░░░░░░ support him for president ░░░░░░░░ though you believe he ░░░░░░░░ lying about the last ░░░░░░░░ you support him for ░░░░░░░░ even if he s ░░░░░░░░ in the Manhattan case ░░░░░░░░ just want to say ░░░░░░░░ answer to that is ░░░░░░░░ correct SUNUNU Yeah me ░░░░░░░░ 51 of America Clip ░░░░░░░░ PSAKI Okay Governor Sununu ░░░░░░░░ were once capable of ░░░░░░░░ truth about the leader ░░░░░░░░ the party you remain ░░░░░░░░ That seemed to be ░░░░░░░░ governor just a few ░░░░░░░░ ago I mean what ░░░░░░░░ a popular governor who ░░░░░░░░ t even running for ░░░░░░░░ supposed to do I ░░░░░░░░ what could he possibly ░░░░░░░░ Lots of things is ░░░░░░░░ answer Of course there ░░░░░░░░ Mitch McConnell the longest ░░░░░░░░ Republican leader in Senate ░░░░░░░░ who in the week ░░░░░░░░ January 6 spoke powerfully ░░░░░░░░ who exactly was to ░░░░░░░░ for that brazen attack ░░░░░░░░ our democracy It was ░░░░░░░░ powerful Clip starts McConnell ░░░░░░░░ Trump is practically and ░░░░░░░░ responsible for provoking the ░░░░░░░░ of the day Clip ░░░░░░░░ PSAKI That was Mitch ░░░░░░░░ on the floor of ░░░░░░░░ Senate That was him ░░░░░░░░ This is Mitch McConnell ░░░░░░░░ Clip starts McConnell As ░░░░░░░░ Republican leader of the ░░░░░░░░ obviously I am going ░░░░░░░░ support the nominee of ░░░░░░░░ party Brennan You have ░░░░░░░░ stands on issues you ░░░░░░░░ are of strong national ░░░░░░░░ interests and morally imperative ░░░░░░░░ What kind of influence ░░░░░░░░ I have had Brennan ░░░░░░░░ are one of the ░░░░░░░░ powerful Republicans McConnell I ░░░░░░░░ the Republican leader of ░░░░░░░░ Senate What we do ░░░░░░░░ is try to make ░░░░░░░░ Clip ends PSAKI Senator ░░░░░░░░ give yourself a little ░░░░░░░░ credit You are the ░░░░░░░░ minority leader You are ░░░░░░░░ powerful You aren t ░░░░░░░░ powerless observer of history ░░░░░░░░ on the sidelines So ░░░░░░░░ have we learned through ░░░░░░░░ of this Well we ░░░░░░░░ learned that people like ░░░░░░░░ McConnell Chris Sununu Bill ░░░░░░░░ and Ron DeSantis know ░░░░░░░░ They have said it ░░░░░░░░ loud and definitely privately ░░░░░░░░ know who Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ they know what he ░░░░░░░░ done they know what ░░░░░░░░ s capable of And ░░░░░░░░ they will still give ░░░░░░░░ their full throated support ░░░░░░░░ November I mean from ░░░░░░░░ to time you may ░░░░░░░░ yourself wondering how Donald ░░░░░░░░ continues to survive through ░░░░░░░░ and criminal trials and ░░░░░░░░ and everything else Well ░░░░░░░░ like the ones I ░░░░░░░░ mentioned are a big ░░░░░░░░ why Sarah Matthews is ░░░░░░░░ former White House deputy ░░░░░░░░ secretary for Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ Coppins is a staff ░░░░░░░░ for The Atlantic who ░░░░░░░░ written extensively about Trump ░░░░░░░░ enablers in the Republican ░░░░░░░░ and they both join ░░░░░░░░ now It s great ░░░░░░░░ see you both Thank ░░░░░░░░ so much for taking ░░░░░░░░ time Sarah I want ░░░░░░░░ start with you I ░░░░░░░░ as we are watching ░░░░░░░░ you have spoken out ░░░░░░░░ consistently spoken out what ░░░░░░░░ to your head when ░░░░░░░░ see people who clearly ░░░░░░░░ better defending Trump as ░░░░░░░░ just did MATTHEWS Yeah ░░░░░░░░ is really frustrating because ░░░░░░░░ you noted some of ░░░░░░░░ things they have said ░░░░░░░░ about Donald Trump are ░░░░░░░░ and then they are ░░░░░░░░ on and endorsing him ░░░░░░░░ I can only imagine ░░░░░░░░ the things they say ░░░░░░░░ I ve talked with ░░░░░░░░ lot of Republicans high ░░░░░░░░ elected officials and things ░░░░░░░░ that who will bash ░░░░░░░░ privately but many of ░░░░░░░░ will not even say ░░░░░░░░ publicly but PSAKI And ░░░░░░░░ bashed him publicly MATTHEWS ░░░░░░░░ But these folks have ░░░░░░░░ him publicly and are ░░░░░░░░ going forward and supporting ░░░░░░░░ And a lot of ░░░░░░░░ what they often say ░░░░░░░░ that they are supporting ░░░░░░░░ because of the policies ░░░░░░░░ they want the conservative ░░░░░░░░ And where I get ░░░░░░░░ is that they are ░░░░░░░░ this like it is ░░░░░░░░ normal election a normal ░░░░░░░░ candidate and a normal ░░░░░░░░ candidate This couldn t ░░░░░░░░ anything further from the ░░░░░░░░ With Donald Trump you ░░░░░░░░ a candidate who tried ░░░░░░░░ overturn the last election ░░░░░░░░ spread conspiracy theories because ░░░░░░░░ couldn t accept the ░░░░░░░░ that he lost the ░░░░░░░░ election and then those ░░░░░░░░ helped inspire an insurrection ░░░░░░░░ our nation s Capitol ░░░░░░░░ to this day Donald ░░░░░░░░ still refuses to admit ░░░░░░░░ he lost that election ░░░░░░░░ has not shown any ░░░░░░░░ for what happened on ░░░░░░░░ 6th So of course ░░░░░░░░ would love for us ░░░░░░░░ be having a debate ░░░░░░░░ policy ideas in the ░░░░░░░░ election but when we ░░░░░░░░ a candidate on the ░░░░░░░░ who will not uphold ░░░░░░░░ Constitution then I feel ░░░░░░░░ I have to put ░░░░░░░░ aside and I want ░░░░░░░░ support the person who ░░░░░░░░ best suited to defeat ░░░░░░░░ Trump And one thing ░░░░░░░░ will note really quickly ░░░░░░░░ Bill Barr specifically in ░░░░░░░░ interview that you should ░░░░░░░░ mentions this about policies ░░░░░░░░ that is why he ░░░░░░░░ supporting Trump even though ░░░░░░░░ says he shouldn t ░░░░░░░░ anywhere near the Oval ░░░░░░░░ And I wrote down ░░░░░░░░ quote that I found ░░░░░░░░ Bill Barr in May ░░░░░░░░ 2023 where he said ░░░░░░░░ if Trump reclaimed the ░░░░░░░░ House in 2024 You ░░░░░░░░ want his policies but ░░░░░░░░ will not deliver Trump ░░░░░░░░ He will deliver chaos ░░░░░░░░ if anything lead to ░░░░░░░░ backlash that will set ░░░░░░░░ policies much further back ░░░░░░░░ they otherwise would be ░░░░░░░░ even if you want ░░░░░░░░ conservative agenda Trump is ░░░░░░░░ the person who will ░░░░░░░░ that.”