RUSH TRANSCRIPT Closed captioning ░░░░░░░░ by meso book com ░░░░░░░░ ve offered a free ░░░░░░░░ about missile filial motto ░░░░░░░░ 10 years How 1808724901 ░░░░░░░░ going to meso book ░░░░░░░░ calm Former president Donald ░░░░░░░░ continues to slam the ░░░░░░░░ billion fine He now ░░░░░░░░ for fraudulently inflating the ░░░░░░░░ of his properties Let ░░░░░░░░ get right into the ░░░░░░░░ with norm eisen Shan ░░░░░░░░ Norm is a CNN ░░░░░░░░ analysts from former White ░░░░░░░░ ethics czar shan as ░░░░░░░░ defense attorney and former ░░░░░░░░ prosecutor And the big ░░░░░░░░ that I keep running ░░░░░░░░ against when I talked ░░░░░░░░ people about this as ░░░░░░░░ is known for not ░░░░░░░░ his bills not paying ░░░░░░░░ he owes money to ░░░░░░░░ so can ease stiff ░░░░░░░░ courts can he refused ░░░░░░░░ pay No Okay He ░░░░░░░░ know at some Point ░░░░░░░░ will make him pay ░░░░░░░░ he is a failure ░░░░░░░░ appeal as it will ░░░░░░░░ the judge has bullet ░░░░░░░░ this verdict Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ political version of reality ░░░░░░░░ hit the actual real ░░░░░░░░ in the form of ░░░░░░░░ legal system he is ░░░░░░░░ to have to pay ░░░░░░░░ just this 355 million ░░░░░░░░ interest and then post ░░░░░░░░ interests on top of ░░░░░░░░ he s stuck and ░░░░░░░░ there s gonna be ░░░░░░░░ independent monitor overseeing the ░░░░░░░░ I mean he s ░░░░░░░░ this is like a ░░░░░░░░ jacket I mean he ░░░░░░░░ not going to like ░░░░░░░░ Yeah And for any ░░░░░░░░ actually a monitor is ░░░░░░░░ of a pain to ░░░░░░░░ because you can t ░░░░░░░░ that easily with and ░░░░░░░░ think this one has ░░░░░░░░ previously picked up some ░░░░░░░░ with it so they ░░░░░░░░ going to be very ░░░░░░░░ in what they can ░░░░░░░░ And norm you and ░░░░░░░░ ve talked about the ░░░░░░░░ trial that s coming ░░░░░░░░ It looks it s ░░░░░░░░ on March 25th jury ░░░░░░░░ in the Alvin Bragg ░░░░░░░░ money case How do ░░░░░░░░ see this unfolding here ░░░░░░░░ the coming days I ░░░░░░░░ this is going to ░░░░░░░░ up pretty quickly Jim ░░░░░░░░ viewers of your weekend ░░░░░░░░ they ve known for ░░░░░░░░ that the Alvin Bragg ░░░░░░░░ was likely to go ░░░░░░░░ and on that date ░░░░░░░░ 25th I see that ░░░░░░░░ as the second chapter ░░░░░░░░ a three act drama ░░░░░░░░ fraud and alleged fraud ░░░░░░░░ first act was the ░░░░░░░░ fraud that Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ found to have committed ░░░░░░░░ These hush money payments ░░░░░░░░ electoral fraud in an ░░░░░░░░ close election he made ░░░░░░░░ payments they could have ░░░░░░░░ the election for him ░░░░░░░░ then he got away ░░░░░░░░ a thought oh I ░░░░░░░░ do as much alleging ░░░░░░░░ is I want and ░░░░░░░░ had one of the ░░░░░░░░ charge frauds in American ░░░░░░░░ fraud against the United ░░░░░░░░ 2020 so that s ░░░░░░░░ s at stake Very ░░░░░░░░ stakes for democracy if ░░░░░░░░ Trump can get away ░░░░░░░░ these kinds of alleged ░░░░░░░░ crimes it ll be ░░░░░░░░ season on our elections ░░░░░░░░ shan I mean one ░░░░░░░░ the things that we ░░░░░░░░ last night Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ last night he was ░░░░░░░░ after the judge in ░░░░░░░░ civil fraud case We ░░░░░░░░ this Alvin Bragg case ░░░░░░░░ up on March 25 ░░░░░░░░ Smith presumably coming up ░░░░░░░░ that Can he continue ░░░░░░░░ keep the attacking the ░░░░░░░░ and the prosecutors and ░░░░░░░░ and just get away ░░░░░░░░ it Well he s ░░░░░░░░ be under some constraints ░░░░░░░░ think judges have been ░░░░░░░░ to really bring down ░░░░░░░░ hammer on them probably ░░░░░░░░ judges They re gonna ░░░░░░░░ feingold it And maybe ░░░░░░░░ insulting the lead prosecutors ░░░░░░░░ s what they re ░░░░░░░░ about as witnesses during ░░░░░░░░ and maybe court staff ░░░░░░░░ we saw with in ░░░░░░░░ and I just want ░░░░░░░░ echo that I think ░░░░░░░░ norm has been saying ░░░░░░░░ ve long expected the ░░░░░░░░ case to go first ░░░░░░░░ in many ways it ░░░░░░░░ also very streamlined case ░░░░░░░░ the simple story behind ░░░░░░░░ s election interference but ░░░░░░░░ simple story has a ░░░░░░░░ of jury appeal is ░░░░░░░░ wanted to buy silence ░░░░░░░░ that s going to ░░░░░░░░ across very easily to ░░░░░░░░ jurors And that s ░░░░░░░░ that s the part ░░░░░░░░ the case that is ░░░░░░░░ to be easier for ░░░░░░░░ to prove and one ░░░░░░░░ the most important passages ░░░░░░░░ that big judge and ░░░░░░░░ opinion he was so ░░░░░░░░ laid Out all the ░░░░░░░░ he applied the law ░░░░░░░░ pulled back his most ░░░░░░░░ vulnerable position which was ░░░░░░░░ corporate death penalty He ░░░░░░░░ okay I m not ░░░░░░░░ the business certificates One ░░░░░░░░ the most important portions ░░░░░░░░ 43 he talks about ░░░░░░░░ testimony of Michael Cohen ░░░░░░░░ goes through the ups ░░░░░░░░ downs because cohen is ░░░░░░░░ very important for the ░░░░░░░░ election interference Alvin Bragg ░░░░░░░░ And he ends up ░░░░░░░░ saying Michael Cohen told ░░░░░░░░ truth Again something we ░░░░░░░░ talked about he actually ░░░░░░░░ t varied from his ░░░░░░░░ since I first interviewed ░░░░░░░░ for the first Trump ░░░░░░░░ So a second devastating ░░░░░░░░ seems to be headed ░░░░░░░░ Trump Trump s way ░░░░░░░░ March 25 we have ░░░░░░░░ heard the last of ░░░░░░░░ Cohen I don t ░░░░░░░░ Michael Cohen references and ░░░░░░░░ this Norman shan thanks ░░░░░░░░ lot Thanks for always ░░░░░░░░ in on these weekend ░░░░░░░░ much Appreciate Jim We ░░░░░░░░ going to ms being ░░░░░░░░ you on a Sunday ░░░░░░░░ we re going to ░░░░░░░░ you every morning bright ░░░░░░░░ early Well not that ░░░░░░░░ Early for me All ░░░░░░░░ guys Thanks Okay All ░░░░░░░░ And just ahead we ░░░░░░░░ talking with two men ░░░░░░░░ on a new tour ░░░░░░░░ help Americans find common ░░░░░░░░ on all sorts of ░░░░░░░░