RUSH TRANSCRIPT Thanks so ░░░░░░░░ Conversation with a peer ░░░░░░░░ legal experts Seth waxman ░░░░░░░░ legal analyst norm ison ░░░░░░░░ you both for being ░░░░░░░░ us If you are ░░░░░░░░ prosecutor in that trial ░░░░░░░░ in the Trump defense ░░░░░░░░ how do you feel ░░░░░░░░ your case s very ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ Trump s lawyers were ░░░░░░░░ trying to fight back ░░░░░░░░ this particular allegation I ░░░░░░░░ this was more about ░░░░░░░░ theater The judge in ░░░░░░░░ case has already ruled ░░░░░░░░ Trump and his entities ░░░░░░░░ liable That was determined ░░░░░░░░ fall This was supposed ░░░░░░░░ be about damages If ░░░░░░░░ were really trying to ░░░░░░░░ this case they would ░░░░░░░░ saying look judge we ░░░░░░░░ you got it wrong ░░░░░░░░ fall but we respect ░░░░░░░░ honest opinion This talk ░░░░░░░░ damages What the attorney ░░░░░░░░ wants 370 million is ░░░░░░░░ inflated The idea we ░░░░░░░░ be forever barred from ░░░░░░░░ in New York that ░░░░░░░░ a ridiculous result So ░░░░░░░░ take those issues on ░░░░░░░░ wouldn t be saying ░░░░░░░░ whole case is not ░░░░░░░░ and that there is ░░░░░░░░ basis in law to ░░░░░░░░ found liability The judge ░░░░░░░░ already done that That ░░░░░░░░ has sailed Smith it ░░░░░░░░ a foregone conclusion the ░░░░░░░░ of fraud which you ░░░░░░░░ not tell if you ░░░░░░░░ just listening to Trump ░░░░░░░░ his lawyer That is ░░░░░░░░ very important point to ░░░░░░░░ The gravitational force of ░░░░░░░░ judges summary judgment finding ░░░░░░░░ that one count on ░░░░░░░░ first count in the ░░░░░░░░ is now slipping down ░░░░░░░░ the remaining six counts ░░░░░░░░ Trump is struggling to ░░░░░░░░ a way to resist ░░░░░░░░ judge reaching the same ░░░░░░░░ And then the damages ░░░░░░░░ the money and the ░░░░░░░░ just like a corporate ░░░░░░░░ penalty for Trump and ░░░░░░░░ family They may be ░░░░░░░░ out of their businesses ░░░░░░░░ on what the judge ░░░░░░░░ here I thought that ░░░░░░░░ were technical arguments and ░░░░░░░░ times during this very ░░░░░░░░ trial Trump s team ░░░░░░░░ scored some points but ░░░░░░░░ did not focus on ░░░░░░░░ In the argument today ░░░░░░░░ not in Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ press conference I listed ░░░░░░░░ defenses that he laid ░░░░░░░░ That his financial valuations ░░░░░░░░ perfect That is not ░░░░░░░░ We know his condo ░░░░░░░░ 000 square feet he ░░░░░░░░ it was 30 000 ░░░░░░░░ feet And the same ░░░░░░░░ Mar a Lago 40 ░░░░░░░░ Street And the seven ░░░░░░░░ estate That there were ░░░░░░░░ witnesses the state put ░░░░░░░░ witness after witness Expert ░░░░░░░░ fact witness He put ░░░░░░░░ members of Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ the state ags lawyers ░░░░░░░░ on members of Donald ░░░░░░░░ s on family To ░░░░░░░░ that And on and ░░░░░░░░ and on It just ░░░░░░░░ not persuasive From Trump ░░░░░░░░ his team that the ░░░░░░░░ in this case the ░░░░░░░░ verdict perhaps barring him ░░░░░░░░ doing business in New ░░░░░░░░ could impact other businesses ░░░░░░░░ the city That if ░░░░░░░░ claim Barred That raises ░░░░░░░░ question of Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ a new company across ░░░░░░░░ river in New Jersey ░░░░░░░░ company were to do ░░░░░░░░ is that going to ░░░░░░░░ barred by this rule ░░░░░░░░ the judge imposes it ░░░░░░░░ we will end up ░░░░░░░░ may be as decades ░░░░░░░░ education Every time Donald ░░░░░░░░ wants to do business ░░░░░░░░ New York he creates ░░░░░░░░ new entity or has ░░░░░░░░ of his consiglio areas ░░░░░░░░ a new company There ░░░░░░░░ be a cat and ░░░░░░░░ game for years if ░░░░░░░░ decades The idea that ░░░░░░░░ could bleed over into ░░░░░░░░ company but each case ░░░░░░░░ on its own ABC ░░░░░░░░ that is being run ░░░░░░░░ John Jones across the ░░░░░░░░ has nothing to do ░░░░░░░░ this case This is ░░░░░░░░ on Donald Trump and ░░░░░░░░ entities His lawyers to ░░░░░░░░ real arguments We saw ░░░░░░░░ with the assassination position ░░░░░░░░ his lawyers were forced ░░░░░░░░ Absolute immunity He says ░░░░░░░░ immunity the lack of ░░░░░░░░ immunity will expose every ░░░░░░░░ We ve gotten along ░░░░░░░░ for 250 years without ░░░░░░░░ immunity You can see ░░░░░░░░ Trump pressure on his ░░░░░░░░ The smart thing one ░░░░░░░░ the many smart things ░░░░░░░░ his lawyer should have ░░░░░░░░ today is hammer the ░░░░░░░░ not just the money ░░░░░░░░ corporate death penalty Why ░░░░░░░░ appellate division has already ░░░░░░░░ skepticism about that remedy ░░░░░░░░ the earlier one count ░░░░░░░░ summary judgment They put ░░░░░░░░ on hold Why not ░░░░░░░░ there and make the ░░░░░░░░ second guess they judge ░░░░░░░░ you do on damages ░░░░░░░░ can t do this ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump once again ░░░░░░░░ own worst enemy Negotiations ░░░░░░░░ the defense and the ░░░░░░░░ because Donald Trump didn ░░░░░░░░ want to take part ░░░░░░░░ the closing arguments The ░░░░░░░░ wanted there to be ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump s lawyers ░░░░░░░░ not agree to them ░░░░░░░░ he would not agree ░░░░░░░░ them Go past the ░░░░░░░░ so it looks like ░░░░░░░░ is not going to ░░░░░░░░ a part of the ░░░░░░░░ arguments That he shows ░░░░░░░░ and he ends up ░░░░░░░░ part of the closing ░░░░░░░░ anyway Are you surprised ░░░░░░░░ went down like that ░░░░░░░░ for Donald Trump speaking ░░░░░░░░ voters From the judges ░░░░░░░░ this is a bench ░░░░░░░░ There is no jury ░░░░░░░░ worry about Certainly we ░░░░░░░░ jurors that are not ░░░░░░░░ in law there could ░░░░░░░░ some concern that they ░░░░░░░░ inflammatory arguments irregular political ░░░░░░░░ made at this jury ░░░░░░░░ be unfairly tainted The ░░░░░░░░ knows what evidence is ░░░░░░░░ What he should and ░░░░░░░░ not be considered I ░░░░░░░░ at the end of ░░░░░░░░ day Donald Trump has ░░░░░░░░ talking about how he ░░░░░░░░ been muzzled in the ░░░░░░░░ The judge gave him ░░░░░░░░ opportunity to speak So ░░░░░░░░ no longer he Donald ░░░░░░░░ no longer has that ░░░░░░░░ argument Actually going on ░░░░░░░░ the judge has been ░░░░░░░░ about this He is ░░░░░░░░ ready to give a ░░░░░░░░ damages verdict in very ░░░░░░░░ injunctive relief against Donald ░░░░░░░░ he is preparing his ░░░░░░░░ for appellate scrutiny So ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump can t ░░░░░░░░ he would let me ░░░░░░░░ in court in my ░░░░░░░░ defense on the last ░░░░░░░░ He said I will ░░░░░░░░ you speak but only ░░░░░░░░ little bit then he ░░░░░░░░ him off Thank you ░░░░░░░░ much.