RUSH TRANSCRIPT And come ░░░░░░░░ days after Colorado did ░░░░░░░░ Trump off of its ░░░░░░░░ ballot That was over ░░░░░░░░ role in the January ░░░░░░░░ riot and that the ░░░░░░░░ States capitol Colorado says ░░░░░░░░ it has asked the ░░░░░░░░ Court to overturn that ░░░░░░░░ There is so much ░░░░░░░░ are on the legal ░░░░░░░░ And joining me to ░░░░░░░░ all this is CNN ░░░░░░░░ analyst norm eisen Also ░░░░░░░░ us James zurawski of ░░░░░░░░ Atlantic Norm I want ░░░░░░░░ start off with this ░░░░░░░░ out of Michigan tonight ░░░░░░░░ s such a very ░░░░░░░░ outcome from what we ░░░░░░░░ in Colorado tackling the ░░░░░░░░ basic question of whether ░░░░░░░░ 14th Amendment applies to ░░░░░░░░ Trump How do we ░░░░░░░░ sense of these divergent ░░░░░░░░ Are a wonderful tapestry ░░░░░░░░ American federalism And they ░░░░░░░░ ballot access questions differently ░░░░░░░░ Colorado courts that held ░░░░░░░░ under the laws of ░░░░░░░░ state an act by ░░░░░░░░ states legislature they do ░░░░░░░░ the power under the ░░░░░░░░ States constitution to determine ░░░░░░░░ Trump was an insurrectionist ░░░░░░░░ made that determination And ░░░░░░░░ the 14th Amendment to ░░░░░░░░ United States constitution insurrectionists ░░░░░░░░ not serve Under Colorado ░░░░░░░░ they decided Trump cannot ░░░░░░░░ on the ballot And ░░░░░░░░ has different laws They ░░░░░░░░ not allow that determination ░░░░░░░░ be made But very ░░░░░░░░ in Michigan this was ░░░░░░░░ the primary election only ░░░░░░░░ have left open the ░░░░░░░░ of whether the general ░░░░░░░░ could have a different ░░░░░░░░ under the laws of ░░░░░░░░ state So this Supreme ░░░░░░░░ is going to begin ░░░░░░░░ this with the Colorado ░░░░░░░░ And overall what we ░░░░░░░░ seeing with all these ░░░░░░░░ stories is American checks ░░░░░░░░ balances inaction as they ░░░░░░░░ to grapple with a ░░░░░░░░ candidate who allegedly previously ░░░░░░░░ those same powers he ░░░░░░░░ to obtain and wants ░░░░░░░░ to attempt to overthrow ░░░░░░░░ democratic election That is ░░░░░░░░ we are seeing all ░░░░░░░░ these legal matters across ░░░░░░░░ country Today s legal ░░░░░░░░ did leave the door ░░░░░░░░ to these huge 14th ░░░░░░░░ challenges If Trump ends ░░░░░░░░ becoming the GOP nominee ░░░░░░░░ at this point looks ░░░░░░░░ it could very well ░░░░░░░░ Now the group behind ░░░░░░░░ challenge today they vowed ░░░░░░░░ keep fighting this issue ░░░░░░░░ a later stage Do ░░░░░░░░ think that we will ░░░░░░░░ this come up again ░░░░░░░░ the general election Or ░░░░░░░░ do you think we ░░░░░░░░ see the Supreme Court ░░░░░░░░ in before then Will ░░░░░░░░ have to make this ░░░░░░░░ Individual states are certainly ░░░░░░░░ to decide the results ░░░░░░░░ the Trump motion trying ░░░░░░░░ get the secretary of ░░░░░░░░ in Maine to recuse ░░░░░░░░ from making a decision ░░░░░░░░ the 14th Amendment question ░░░░░░░░ she had written two ░░░░░░░░ three s tweets essentially ░░░░░░░░ that January 6th was ░░░░░░░░ insurrection and that Trump ░░░░░░░░ have been impeached So ░░░░░░░░ are going to see ░░░░░░░░ on a state by ░░░░░░░░ level But it feels ░░░░░░░░ the Supreme Court is ░░░░░░░░ going to have to ░░░░░░░░ in and weigh in ░░░░░░░░ this But to me ░░░░░░░░ bigger picture here the ░░░░░░░░ interesting thing is really ░░░░░░░░ you lead with which ░░░░░░░░ we have 314 days ░░░░░░░░ until the election And ░░░░░░░░ feels like an incredible ░░░░░░░░ of those days are ░░░░░░░░ to be occupied by ░░░░░░░░ about or discussions of ░░░░░░░░ Trump writing crazy posts ░░░░░░░░ Truth Social about his ░░░░░░░░ issues This really is ░░░░░░░░ to be one of ░░░░░░░░ dominant factors in his ░░░░░░░░ There is no way ░░░░░░░░ avoid it I think ░░░░░░░░ are totally right about ░░░░░░░░ And it is happening ░░░░░░░░ is playing out just ░░░░░░░░ from coast to coast ░░░░░░░░ In Maine as James ░░░░░░░░ was just pointing out ░░░░░░░░ eisen Maine is just ░░░░░░░░ of two states with ░░░░░░░░ own 14th Amendment cases ░░░░░░░░ pending But this time ░░░░░░░░ is different here The ░░░░░░░░ of state sheena bellows ░░░░░░░░ is a Democrat She ░░░░░░░░ be the one who ░░░░░░░░ at least at this ░░░░░░░░ stage on Trump s ░░░░░░░░ Do you get the ░░░░░░░░ here that this could ░░░░░░░░ a case where she ░░░░░░░░ Colorado s lead And ░░░░░░░░ him off the ballot ░░░░░░░░ then there is one ░░░░░░░░ challenge that heads right ░░░░░░░░ to the Supreme Court ░░░░░░░░ their own determination And ░░░░░░░░ shenna bellows is one ░░░░░░░░ our outstanding secretaries of ░░░░░░░░ And she is grappling ░░░░░░░░ those same questions There ░░░░░░░░ certainly powerful evidence in ░░░░░░░░ Colorado courts deduced it ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump did engaged ░░░░░░░░ violates the 14th Amendment ░░░░░░░░ Michigan or Colorado in ░░░░░░░░ first instance that is ░░░░░░░░ to the secretary She ░░░░░░░░ wrestling with that now ░░░░░░░░ we will see what ░░░░░░░░ does She said she ░░░░░░░░ decide this week Significant ░░░░░░░░ it might not seem ░░░░░░░░ it is a very ░░░░░░░░ state in the Electoral ░░░░░░░░ process here James surowiecki ░░░░░░░░ want to turn now ░░░░░░░░ Trump s other legal ░░░░░░░░ We talked about this ░░░░░░░░ today too Jack Smith ░░░░░░░░ asking the judge overseeing ░░░░░░░░ January 6th election fraud ░░░░░░░░ to stop Trump from ░░░░░░░░ political attacks during this ░░░░░░░░ Do you think that ░░░░░░░░ has really credibility here ░░░░░░░░ this case Can he ░░░░░░░░ this done Norm can ░░░░░░░░ speak better to the ░░░░░░░░ questions here But this ░░░░░░░░ a fairly routine thing ░░░░░░░░ prosecutors to do So ░░░░░░░░ concept is basically you ░░░░░░░░ t want you know ░░░░░░░░ might imagine the defendant ░░░░░░░░ say whatever they want ░░░░░░░░ order to try to ░░░░░░░░ themselves But that is ░░░░░░░░ the case You don ░░░░░░░░ want defense attorneys being ░░░░░░░░ to make false claims ░░░░░░░░ even claims that are ░░░░░░░░ irrelevant to the legal ░░░░░░░░ at the heart of ░░░░░░░░ case but that are ░░░░░░░░ made really to try ░░░░░░░░ prejudice the jury And ░░░░░░░░ is the argument here ░░░░░░░░ Trump wants to say ░░░░░░░░ this is a political ░░░░░░░░ by the Biden Administration ░░░░░░░░ he wants to potentially ░░░░░░░░ about January 6th that ░░░░░░░░ cops let the rioters ░░░░░░░░ and that if they ░░░░░░░░ done a better job ░░░░░░░░ would not have happened ░░░░░░░░ None of those things ░░░░░░░░ really jermaine Even really ░░░░░░░░ to the question of ░░░░░░░░ Trump conspired to overturn ░░░░░░░░ 2020 election which is ░░░░░░░░ the fundamental charge of ░░░░░░░░ heart of the Jack ░░░░░░░░ case so I think ░░░░░░░░ the motion itself is ░░░░░░░░ sort of routine in ░░░░░░░░ ways And I think ░░░░░░░░ has substantive merit But ░░░░░░░░ one thing about it ░░░░░░░░ I think is interesting ░░░░░░░░ that Smith is filing ░░░░░░░░ even though that case ░░░░░░░░ been stayed while Trump ░░░░░░░░ claim that he has ░░░░░░░░ immunity for his action ░░░░░░░░ he was president while ░░░░░░░░ did that is being ░░░░░░░░ of working its way ░░░░░░░░ the courts And it ░░░░░░░░ interesting that Smith did ░░░░░░░░ Because it really irks ░░░░░░░░ Trump posted today on ░░░░░░░░ Social and basically we ░░░░░░░░ this is crazy he ░░░░░░░░ doing this it just ░░░░░░░░ and more of a ░░░░░░░░ persecution So you can ░░░░░░░░ see all of this ░░░░░░░░ of getting to Trump ░░░░░░░░ his Truth Social post ░░░░░░░░ gotten increasingly unhinged He ░░░░░░░░ out pretty much every ░░░░░░░░ someone tries to argue ░░░░░░░░ he should not be ░░░░░░░░ speaking about certain matters ░░░░░░░░ norm eisen James surowiecki ░░░░░░░░ thank you both very ░░░░░░░░