Liz Cheney: ‘Naive’ to Think Guard Rails Can Protect Us If There’s a Second Trump Term

COOPER What do you ░░░░░░░░ to the vast number ░░░░░░░░ Republicans who believe Trump ░░░░░░░░ recent messaging that it ░░░░░░░░ Joe Biden who poses ░░░░░░░░ greatest risk to democracy ░░░░░░░░ I think that the ░░░░░░░░ majority of Republicans understand ░░░░░░░░ that s disinformation that ░░░░░░░░ s a lie That ░░░░░░░░ been sort of Trump ░░░░░░░░ method of operating He ░░░░░░░░ that it is a ░░░░░░░░ threat to his political ░░░░░░░░ if people recognize that ░░░░░░░░ himself is trying to ░░░░░░░░ democracy And so I ░░░░░░░░ he s projecting He ░░░░░░░░ trying to turn that ░░░░░░░░ around but I don ░░░░░░░░ think it will work ░░░░░░░░ You ve also said ░░░░░░░░ don t think that ░░░░░░░░ would willingly leave office ░░░░░░░░ a second term You ░░░░░░░░ if voters return him ░░░░░░░░ the White House there ░░░░░░░░ not be any more ░░░░░░░░ to vote in I ░░░░░░░░ the pushback is that ░░░░░░░░ s alarmist it s ░░░░░░░░ There are institutional guardrails ░░░░░░░░ would prevent that Cheney ░░░░░░░░ And I think it ░░░░░░░░ naive and a real ░░░░░░░░ of what we ve ░░░░░░░░ through to think that ░░░░░░░░ can count on the ░░░░░░░░ that we have in ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump tried to ░░░░░░░░ power in 2020 He ░░░░░░░░ very hard He put ░░░░░░░░ place a multi part ░░░░░░░░ to ensure that you ░░░░░░░░ Joe Biden wasn t ░░░░░░░░ to be certified rightfully ░░░░░░░░ the president of the ░░░░░░░░ States So he s ░░░░░░░░ it once And what ░░░░░░░░ saw in 2020 was ░░░░░░░░ it was the people ░░░░░░░░ was the fact that ░░░░░░░░ were Republicans at the ░░░░░░░░ level who stopped him ░░░░░░░░ were people in his ░░░░░░░░ House the Justice Department ░░░░░░░░ stopped him But he ░░░░░░░░ now you know what ░░░░░░░░ do He s learned ░░░░░░░░ lessons of 2020 and ░░░░░░░░ And so I think ░░░░░░░░ who says Well don ░░░░░░░░ worry you can count ░░░░░░░░ the balance of power ░░░░░░░░ the institutions that s ░░░░░░░░ wishful thinking that we ░░░░░░░░ t afford COOPER We ░░░░░░░░ six weeks away from ░░░░░░░░ Iowa caucuses What is ░░░░░░░░ message to voters going ░░░░░░░░ this 2024 election Cheney ░░░░░░░░ whatever you do whatever ░░░░░░░░ think about you know ░░░░░░░░ possibilities that Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ present he s not ░░░░░░░░ acceptable option He s ░░░░░░░░ an acceptable alternative I ░░░░░░░░ he is defeated in ░░░░░░░░ primary But if he ░░░░░░░░ not we have to ░░░░░░░░ him in the general ░░░░░░░░ people need to take ░░░░░░░░ and literally what he ░░░░░░░░ saying which is that ░░░░░░░░ would in fact unravel ░░░░░░░░ democracy potentially terminate the ░░░░░░░░ It s a risk ░░░░░░░░ can t take COOPER ░░░░░░░░ Cheney thank you so ░░░░░░░░ Cheney Thanks Anderson COOPER ░░░░░░░░ Cheney Good to be ░░░░░░░░ you COOPER Really really ░░░░░░░░ a I mean I ░░░░░░░░ t want to say ░░░░░░░░ fun read but it ░░░░░░░░ a fascinating read and ░░░░░░░░ s engrossing So thank ░░░░░░░░ Cheney Well appreciate the ░░░░░░░░ COOPER Again the book ░░░░░░░░ out today It s ░░░░░░░░ best selling memoir on ░░░░░░░░ It s Oath and ░░░░░░░░ A Memoir and a ░░░░░░░░