RUSH TRANSCRIPT Stephanie Appreciate ░░░░░░░░ joining us With that ░░░░░░░░ s bring in our ░░░░░░░░ off panel tonight Peter ░░░░░░░░ is here chief White ░░░░░░░░ correspondent for The New ░░░░░░░░ Times Michael or and ░░░░░░░░ Israel ambassador to the ░░░░░░░░ S And my colleague ░░░░░░░░ friend Martin Fletcher former ░░░░░░░░ correspondent He spent over ░░░░░░░░ years reporting for NBC ░░░░░░░░ has won almost every ░░░░░░░░ television award including five ░░░░░░░░ Michael I want to ░░░░░░░░ with the president speech ░░░░░░░░ was your thought And ░░░░░░░░ do you think s ░░░░░░░░ will go over in ░░░░░░░░ Stephanie As they were ░░░░░░░░ his initial speech a ░░░░░░░░ ago His visit to ░░░░░░░░ a day from yesterday ░░░░░░░░ of his words were ░░░░░░░░ appreciated here and highly ░░░░░░░░ Tonight was interesting because ░░░░░░░░ the first time he ░░░░░░░░ a very direct connection ░░░░░░░░ Russia s invasion of ░░░░░░░░ and Hamas attack on ░░░░░░░░ And he stressed the ░░░░░░░░ between them not just ░░░░░░░░ fact that Ukraine and ░░░░░░░░ our fellow democracy s ░░░░░░░░ invaded by totalitarian and ░░░░░░░░ in human forces But ░░░░░░░░ both the connection between ░░░░░░░░ and Ukraine and Israel ░░░░░░░░ the Iranian connection Iran ░░░░░░░░ back in the Russian ░░░░░░░░ It s helping to ░░░░░░░░ the Russian army with ░░░░░░░░ and missiles And Iran ░░░░░░░░ course the principal backer ░░░░░░░░ Hamas and it is ░░░░░░░░ owner literally of Palestine ░░░░░░░░ Jihad You in the ░░░░░░░░ remarks and Michael gave ░░░░░░░░ how it s going ░░░░░░░░ be received in Israel ░░░░░░░░ do you think about ░░░░░░░░ rest of the Middle ░░░░░░░░ Mediately was among the ░░░░░░░░ words of President Biden ░░░░░░░░ he called this an ░░░░░░░░ point in history And ░░░░░░░░ think it really is ░░░░░░░░ is really on the ░░░░░░░░ of the abyss The ░░░░░░░░ of whether the conflict ░░░░░░░░ spillover as Richard was ░░░░░░░░ his report it s ░░░░░░░░ spilling over in a ░░░░░░░░ way relatively minor way ░░░░░░░░ potential for a spreading ░░░░░░░░ it s huge President ░░░░░░░░ speech well received as ░░░░░░░░ pointed out in Israel ░░░░░░░░ be fairly poorly received ░░░░░░░░ the rest of the ░░░░░░░░ East We ve been ░░░░░░░░ demonstrations all over the ░░░░░░░░ in Beirut capitals all ░░░░░░░░ That s going to ░░░░░░░░ worse That s going ░░░░░░░░ get worse Speech was ░░░░░░░░ any other Oval Office ░░░░░░░░ you can remember because ░░░░░░░░ all the ground he ░░░░░░░░ What were your big ░░░░░░░░ Him linking to seemingly ░░░░░░░░ foreign crises and trying ░░░░░░░░ find the through line ░░░░░░░░ Russia s invasion of ░░░░░░░░ and Hamas s attack ░░░░░░░░ Israel have very different ░░░░░░░░ very different details in ░░░░░░░░ specifics But he is ░░░░░░░░ the argument that they ░░░░░░░░ of the same sort ░░░░░░░░ qualities He s using ░░░░░░░░ own axis of evil ░░░░░░░░ you will even though ░░░░░░░░ doesn t use the ░░░░░░░░ that George W Bush ░░░░░░░░ Iran is not the ░░░░░░░░ connection in his view ░░░░░░░░ and terrorism he s ░░░░░░░░ are essential very similar ░░░░░░░░ in the world today ░░░░░░░░ at odds with democracies ░░░░░░░░ the United States and ░░░░░░░░ And both forces to ░░░░░░░░ confronted as he s ░░░░░░░░ to the American people ░░░░░░░░ challenge at home which ░░░░░░░░ different than his challenge ░░░░░░░░ the region is to ░░░░░░░░ the American public that ░░░░░░░░ s very tired of ░░░░░░░░ an engagement after 20 ░░░░░░░░ years following 9 11 ░░░░░░░░ the wars in Iraq ░░░░░░░░ Afghanistan He s making ░░░░░░░░ case that it s ░░░░░░░░ the investment of money ░░░░░░░░ it s not going ░░░░░░░░ put American troops in ░░░░░░░░ s way but he ░░░░░░░░ going to continue to ░░░░░░░░ and pay for the ░░░░░░░░ and Israelis fighting these ░░░░░░░░ against them It s ░░░░░░░░ selling job he needs ░░░░░░░░ make particularly his own ░░░░░░░░ in some ways but ░░░░░░░░ with some on the ░░░░░░░░ right and the other ░░░░░░░░ He s asking for ░░░░░░░░ approved Up with what ░░░░░░░░ to be an elegances ░░░░░░░░ around a political mess ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine aid that he ░░░░░░░░ asked for earlier in ░░░░░░░░ summer of god in ░░░░░░░░ house because a number ░░░░░░░░ concern Republicans refused to ░░░░░░░░ along with Then of ░░░░░░░░ there is no House ░░░░░░░░ right now Without a ░░░░░░░░ Speaker The way around ░░░░░░░░ is by 20 nip ░░░░░░░░ this money for Israel ░░░░░░░░ has a great deal ░░░░░░░░ support on both sides ░░░░░░░░ the aisle And of ░░░░░░░░ border protection money which ░░░░░░░░ what a lot of ░░░░░░░░ or concerns have been ░░░░░░░░ for As well as ░░░░░░░░ for Taiwan This should ░░░░░░░░ theory be enough to ░░░░░░░░ enough majorities to both ░░░░░░░░ and both houses along ░░░░░░░░ s a lot of ░░░░░░░░ 105 billion dollars he ░░░░░░░░ asking the American taxpayers ░░░░░░░░ But there for a ░░░░░░░░ of priorities that appeal ░░░░░░░░ a lot of different ░░░░░░░░ of Congress If they ░░░░░░░░ get a speaker they ░░░░░░░░ get a house that ░░░░░░░░ working again in theory ░░░░░░░░ ought to be able ░░░░░░░░ see bipartisan support both ░░░░░░░░ these measures On about ░░░░░░░░ Martin brought up the ░░░░░░░░ across the region outside ░░░░░░░░ Israel What is your ░░░░░░░░ of it because it ░░░░░░░░ seems to be getting ░░░░░░░░ But you have to ░░░░░░░░ Stephanie between popular opinion ░░░░░░░░ government opinion After more ░░░░░░░░ a decade of American ░░░░░░░░ from conflicts not just ░░░░░░░░ the Middle East but ░░░░░░░░ the world America is ░░░░░░░░ And allied countries allied ░░░░░░░░ in the world not ░░░░░░░░ in the Middle East ░░░░░░░░ can say governments like ░░░░░░░░ South Korea Japan will ░░░░░░░░ very happy to hear ░░░░░░░░ speech And so we ░░░░░░░░ pro American pro western ░░░░░░░░ in the Middle East ░░░░░░░░ may be facing rising ░░░░░░░░ opposition to the United ░░░░░░░░ but their rulers not ░░░░░░░░ their rulers will be ░░░░░░░░ a return of America ░░░░░░░░ I think one of ░░░░░░░░ great distinctions between Ukraine ░░░░░░░░ and what is transpiring ░░░░░░░░ in Israel and the ░░░░░░░░ East is that the ░░░░░░░░ States has been very ░░░░░░░░ not to be involved ░░░░░░░░ militarily in Ukraine and ░░░░░░░░ United States is directly ░░░░░░░░ militarily here not just ░░░░░░░░ the presence of those ░░░░░░░░ large naval groups but ░░░░░░░░ the firing of anti ░░░░░░░░ battery a destroyer in ░░░░░░░░ red sea that took ░░░░░░░░ three rockets fired by ░░░░░░░░ Houthi rebels in Yemen ░░░░░░░░ by Iran America is ░░░░░░░░ engaged here and the ░░░░░░░░ States has put very ░░░░░░░░ large assets These are ░░░░░░░░ aircraft carriers Each one ░░░░░░░░ about 75 planes on ░░░░░░░░ As well as other ░░░░░░░░ systems like tomahawk missiles ░░░░░░░░ anti rocket systems They ░░░░░░░░ already here And I ░░░░░░░░ they re here not ░░░░░░░░ for demonstration They re ░░░░░░░░ in case the war ░░░░░░░░ Israel and Hamas expands ░░░░░░░░ one in Israel Hezbollah ░░░░░░░░ Iran let s talk ░░░░░░░░ the that s the ░░░░░░░░ Politics the border I ░░░░░░░░ to talk with the ░░░░░░░░ want to talk about ░░░░░░░░ Martin the politics We ░░░░░░░░ were airing a bit ░░░░░░░░ airing a little earlier ░░░░░░░░ earlier Lester Holt Lester ░░░░░░░░ who we spoke to ░░░░░░░░ week six family members ░░░░░░░░ hostage She learned in ░░░░░░░░ last few days senior ░░░░░░░░ carmella and a young ░░░░░░░░ 12 years old not ░░░░░░░░ died How are they ░░░░░░░░ getting that information about ░░░░░░░░ right if they re ░░░░░░░░ Gaza if they ve ░░░░░░░░ captured how are they ░░░░░░░░ updates Who is it ░░░░░░░░ The bottom line is ░░░░░░░░ re using it for ░░░░░░░░ warfare The whole country ░░░░░░░░ involved and let me ░░░░░░░░ say this which are ░░░░░░░░ found out today We ░░░░░░░░ about six degrees of ░░░░░░░░ Israel s a tiny ░░░░░░░░ with one or two ░░░░░░░░ of separation So I ░░░░░░░░ found out today that ░░░░░░░░ of my wife s ░░░░░░░░ are among the hostages ░░░░░░░░ m so sorry Out ░░░░░░░░ them As they were ░░░░░░░░ to kill the and ░░░░░░░░ use the rest as ░░░░░░░░ shields So this is ░░░░░░░░ very personal thing That ░░░░░░░░ the way the Americans ░░░░░░░░ Sorry to bring this ░░░░░░░░ you but I just ░░░░░░░░ out that they ran ░░░░░░░░ with evidence to annoy ░░░░░░░░ They re Americans They ░░░░░░░░ visiting their grandmother for ░░░░░░░░ 85th birthday And they ░░░░░░░░ last seen with their ░░░░░░░░ ties Being dragged away ░░░░░░░░ the Hamas terrorists So ░░░░░░░░ s personal It is ░░░░░░░░ And nobody is really ░░░░░░░░ if it s possible ░░░░░░░░ get them back alive ░░░░░░░░ course everyone is hoping ░░░░░░░░ the United States is ░░░░░░░░ everything they can with ░░░░░░░░ resources whatever other resources ░░░░░░░░ can bring to bear ░░░░░░░░ says it s hard ░░░░░░░░ be the number one ░░░░░░░░ But actually the bottom ░░░░░░░░ is that they re ░░░░░░░░ number two priority The ░░░░░░░░ one priority is to ░░░░░░░░ into Gaza as Prime ░░░░░░░░ Netanyahu said to kill ░░░░░░░░ mass leadership and to ░░░░░░░░ Hamas But the hostages ░░░░░░░░ in the way So ░░░░░░░░ is really rather a ░░░░░░░░ intuition Like we re ░░░░░░░░ these hostages like our ░░░░░░░░ and Martin tells us ░░░░░░░░ messages we kill the ░░░░░░░░ that are difficult those ░░░░░░░░ two very very different ░░░░░░░░ How are these families ░░░░░░░░ this information Where are ░░░░░░░░ learning it from if ░░░░░░░░ people are being held ░░░░░░░░ Sorry for your family ░░░░░░░░ loss That s terrible ░░░░░░░░ s terrible news I ░░░░░░░░ been involved with visiting ░░░░░░░░ every day of the ░░░░░░░░ and this is what ░░░░░░░░ know Of the 200 ░░░░░░░░ to 203 hospital that ░░░░░░░░ knows about it s ░░░░░░░░ there s some kind ░░░░░░░░ evidence pictures were taken ░░░░░░░░ them The assumption is ░░░░░░░░ the number is actually ░░░░░░░░ Significantly larger Not all ░░░░░░░░ hostages are on the ░░░░░░░░ of Hamas Some are ░░░░░░░░ the hands of the ░░░░░░░░ Islamic Jihad Some of ░░░░░░░░ are in the hands ░░░░░░░░ families When the terrace ░░░░░░░░ through our defenses in ░░░░░░░░ south hundreds maybe thousands ░░░░░░░░ Gazans followed through with ░░░░░░░░ There were civilians but ░░░░░░░░ took part in the ░░░░░░░░ And they also captured ░░░░░░░░ And then they will ░░░░░░░░ around and sell these ░░░░░░░░ to Hamas or to ░░░░░░░░ Islamic Jihad So the ░░░░░░░░ way we know about ░░░░░░░░ is that somebody took ░░░░░░░░ picture of them at ░░░░░░░░ point And in one ░░░░░░░░ case I want to ░░░░░░░░ Karen shanley the other ░░░░░░░░ her daughter mia was ░░░░░░░░ vaulted 203 hostages the ░░░░░░░░ day Hamas published a ░░░░░░░░ of her daughter mia ░░░░░░░░ suffers from a number ░░░░░░░░ elements Serious ailments She ░░░░░░░░ been shot in the ░░░░░░░░ and she claims she ░░░░░░░░ been treated well The ░░░░░░░░ was old unfortunately It ░░░░░░░░ from the same day ░░░░░░░░ my assumption was that ░░░░░░░░ video was published because ░░░░░░░░ is a dual of ░░░░░░░░ French national And there ░░░░░░░░ some type of gesture ░░░░░░░░ type of message to ░░░░░░░░ French Beyond that we ░░░░░░░░ t know anything The ░░░░░░░░ don t know anything ░░░░░░░░ visited the family their ░░░░░░░░ lonnie has actually not ░░░░░░░░ found at all They ░░░░░░░░ nothing about her whereabouts ░░░░░░░░ has not been identified ░░░░░░░░ the dead Well over ░░░░░░░░ many as 200 dead ░░░░░░░░ not been identified yet ░░░░░░░░ they were so severely ░░░░░░░░ and bird by Hamas ░░░░░░░░ situation is unbearable it ░░░░░░░░ unbearable as Martin has ░░░░░░░░ These poor families it ░░░░░░░░ excruciating For word Peter ░░░░░░░░ ambassador Michael Warren.