Jeffrey Sachs: Covid-19 Task Force Attacked Me as ‘Foe of Science’; ‘You’re Buying into This Conspiracy Theory Stuff’

SACHS But these investigative ░░░░░░░░ used the Freedom of ░░░░░░░░ Act and they started ░░░░░░░░ show that there was ░░░░░░░░ the scenes debate among ░░░░░░░░ experts that we didn ░░░░░░░░ know about And this ░░░░░░░░ quite a revelation actually ░░░░░░░░ oh there were meetings ░░░░░░░░ February 1st 2020 phone ░░░░░░░░ with Fauci and a ░░░░░░░░ of scientists And then ░░░░░░░░ started to learn that ░░░░░░░░ were said on those ░░░░░░░░ calls that were pretty ░░░░░░░░ saying you know this ░░░░░░░░ looks like it came ░░░░░░░░ of a lab or ░░░░░░░░ don t see how ░░░░░░░░ did this or 60 ░░░░░░░░ lab nature not at ░░░░░░░░ the public rhetoric and ░░░░░░░░ hidden from us And ░░░░░░░░ that point a very ░░░░░░░░ small group of scientists ░░░░░░░░ me aside and said ░░░░░░░░ need to give you ░░░░░░░░ tutorial in virology Mr ░░░░░░░░ to understand what we ░░░░░░░░ seeing about this And ░░░░░░░░ smart people and they ░░░░░░░░ at length how they ░░░░░░░░ this and they urged ░░░░░░░░ to go back to ░░░░░░░░ who was heading the ░░░░░░░░ force and ask him ░░░░░░░░ his research grant from ░░░░░░░░ not the summary of ░░░░░░░░ but the full grant ░░░░░░░░ sounded plausible to me ░░░░░░░░ I was starting to ░░░░░░░░ things that I didn ░░░░░░░░ know such as that ░░░░░░░░ Fauci head of NIH ░░░░░░░░ division on infections and ░░░░░░░░ disease NIAID was also ░░░░░░░░ head of biodefense for ░░░░░░░░ U S Whoa I ░░░░░░░░ t know that That ░░░░░░░░ something pretty interesting that ░░░░░░░░ U S Defense Department ░░░░░░░░ putting huge amounts of ░░░░░░░░ through Tony Fauci s ░░░░░░░░ I that raised some ░░░░░░░░ marks And then pointing ░░░░░░░░ to me some articles ░░░░░░░░ some virologists all associated ░░░░░░░░ Daszak and others that ░░░░░░░░ already back in 2005 ░░░░░░░░ the Coronavirus was obviously ░░░░░░░░ target for biowarfare and ░░░░░░░░ needed biodefense and starting ░░░░░░░░ talk about how this ░░░░░░░░ of virus could be ░░░░░░░░ as a vector in ░░░░░░░░ I said okay that ░░░░░░░░ pretty interesting But then ░░░░░░░░ said to me you ░░░░░░░░ this group is doing ░░░░░░░░ research It s manipulating ░░░░░░░░ viruses Go look at ░░░░░░░░ research And they showed ░░░░░░░░ the summary which was ░░░░░░░░ but said go ask ░░░░░░░░ for the full proposal ░░░░░░░░ when I did ask ░░░░░░░░ I was blown away ░░░░░░░░ his answer because he ░░░░░░░░ to me oh Jeff ░░░░░░░░ can t give you ░░░░░░░░ full proposal My lawyers ░░░░░░░░ I can t give ░░░░░░░░ to you And I ░░░░░░░░ what Your lawyers were ░░░░░░░░ transparent commission we re ░░░░░░░░ to investigate this what ░░░░░░░░ your lawyers have to ░░░░░░░░ with this Oh no ░░░░░░░░ no well this is ░░░░░░░░ Freedom of Information Act ░░░░░░░░ and so forth I ░░░░░░░░ Peter I need to ░░░░░░░░ this now Now And ░░░░░░░░ said No no I ░░░░░░░░ t give that to ░░░░░░░░ And I said immediately ░░░░░░░░ then you can t ░░░░░░░░ this task force that ░░░░░░░░ for sure This is ░░░░░░░░ transparent commission We are ░░░░░░░░ for the public will ░░░░░░░░ re not tied up ░░░░░░░░ lawsuits and we re ░░░░░░░░ going to be tied ░░░░░░░░ in lawsuits So I ░░░░░░░░ him to step aside ░░░░░░░░ he did but he ░░░░░░░░ on the commission but ░░░░░░░░ on that task force ░░░░░░░░ a little while And ░░░░░░░░ more things happened One ░░░░░░░░ that the rest of ░░░░░░░░ task force attacked me ░░░░░░░░ you know some foe ░░░░░░░░ science and how dare ░░░░░░░░ Sachs you ignorant reckless ░░░░░░░░ you re buying into ░░░░░░░░ conspiracy theory stuff Very ░░░░░░░░ from people that I ░░░░░░░░ known for a long ░░░░░░░░ But the second thing ░░░░░░░░ far more interesting which ░░░░░░░░ another Freedom of Information ░░░░░░░░ release came and lo ░░░░░░░░ behold the people on ░░░░░░░░ task force are co ░░░░░░░░ with Daszak and they ░░░░░░░░ t even tell me ░░░░░░░░ I asked them repeatedly ░░░░░░░░ you have any conflict ░░░░░░░░ interest So suddenly I ░░░░░░░░ my God this is ░░░░░░░░ bad behavior I asked ░░░░░░░░ straightforwardly do you have ░░░░░░░░ conflict they didn t ░░░░░░░░ they never answered me ░░░░░░░░ this came out but ░░░░░░░░ yelled at Okay I ░░░░░░░░ t care about that ░░░░░░░░ for the fact that ░░░░░░░░ behavior was disgusting and ░░░░░░░░