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Weissmann: Highly Likely Trump Will Get ‘Significant’ Jail Sentence if Convicted
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MSNBC

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Deadline: White House

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Nicolle Wallace
, Andrew Weissmann

Name: Nicolle Wallace
Employment: Self-employed
Position: Author, Political analyst

Name: Andrew Weissmann
Employment: Prosecuting Donald Trump Podcast
Position: Co-Host
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09/05/2023 10:28 pm
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WALLACE Proud Boys leader ░░░░░░░░ Tarrio has been sentenced ░░░░░░░░ 22 years in prison ░░░░░░░░ charges including seditious conspiracy ░░░░░░░░ becomes the longest sentence ░░░░░░░░ far among all January ░░░░░░░░ cases The judge said ░░░░░░░░ Mr Tarrio was the ░░░░░░░░ leader of the conspiracy ░░░░░░░░ the stand Tarrio said ░░░░░░░░ my candidate lost and ░░░░░░░░ police officers deserve better ░░░░░░░░ referring to law enforcement ░░░░░░░░ as gestapo forces in ░░░░░░░░ days after January 6th ░░░░░░░░ fellow Proud Boys were ░░░░░░░░ last week Their sentences ░░░░░░░░ from 10 years to ░░░░░░░░ years Andrew Weissmann has ░░░░░░░░ standing by with us ░░░░░░░░ years the longest sentence ░░░░░░░░ far in the Department ░░░░░░░░ January 6th prosecutions Your ░░░░░░░░ WEISSMANN Sure So it ░░░░░░░░ worth noting that Enrique ░░░░░░░░ the head of the ░░░░░░░░ Boys was just sentenced ░░░░░░░░ 22 years Compare that ░░░░░░░░ Stewart Rhodes the head ░░░░░░░░ the Oath Keepers who ░░░░░░░░ sentenced to 18 years ░░░░░░░░ here Judge Kelly sought ░░░░░░░░ significant stronger sentence Judge ░░░░░░░░ in sentencing him made ░░░░░░░░ statements clearly quite moved ░░░░░░░░ that January 6th it ░░░░░░░░ t happen again and ░░░░░░░░ It can t happen ░░░░░░░░ that the strongest message ░░░░░░░░ to be sent In ░░░░░░░░ to Tarrio referring to ░░░░░░░░ member of the Proud ░░░░░░░░ which he led comparing ░░░░░░░░ favorably to George Washington ░░░░░░░░ judge said It slanders ░░░░░░░░ father of our country ░░░░░░░░ speak that way So ░░░░░░░░ this is a judge ░░░░░░░░ took what happened on ░░░░░░░░ 6th very seriously And ░░░░░░░░ final point is this ░░░░░░░░ not a good thing ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump I have ░░░░░░░░ this repeatedly It s ░░░░░░░░ just a prediction but ░░░░░░░░ the judges in D ░░░░░░░░ like Judge Chutkin who ░░░░░░░░ seen all of these ░░░░░░░░ 6th cases the leaders ░░░░░░░░ the Proud Boys and ░░░░░░░░ Oath Keepers doing significant ░░░░░░░░ the idea that the ░░░░░░░░ the person as you ░░░░░░░░ pointed out Nicolle who ░░░░░░░░ alleged to have led ░░░░░░░░ and for whom they ░░░░░░░░ acting the idea that ░░░░░░░░ Trump will not be ░░░░░░░░ to jail if he ░░░░░░░░ convicted seems remote to ░░░░░░░░ because the judges are ░░░░░░░░ through this and seeing ░░░░░░░░ of these other defendants ░░░░░░░░ it s anathema I ░░░░░░░░ to them and the ░░░░░░░░ law that people who ░░░░░░░░ underlings would get this ░░░░░░░░ of sentence and that ░░░░░░░░ leader would not WALLACE ░░░░░░░░ you know I think ░░░░░░░░ Andrew we can t ░░░░░░░░ these two things I ░░░░░░░░ to read more from ░░░░░░░░ the judge said Quote ░░░░░░░░ don t have any ░░░░░░░░ that he Tarrio is ░░░░░░░░ for the actual things ░░░░░░░░ was convicted of which ░░░░░░░░ seditious conspiracy I mean ░░░░░░░░ are now in a ░░░░░░░░ where the sentencing of ░░░░░░░░ individual and the recognition ░░░░░░░░ the judge if there ░░░░░░░░ an absence of remorse ░░░░░░░░ be taken away from ░░░░░░░░ sort of disaggregated from ░░░░░░░░ fact that Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ running with these guys ░░░░░░░░ s running literally standing ░░░░░░░░ a podium where the ░░░░░░░░ plays behind him It ░░░░░░░░ to the lack of ░░░░░░░░ and I think it ░░░░░░░░ just a haunting and ░░░░░░░░ split screen WEISSMANN Absolutely ░░░░░░░░ you re seeing these ░░░░░░░░ handed down by judges ░░░░░░░░ were appointed by Democrats ░░░░░░░░ Republicans it should be ░░░░░░░░ out by judges who ░░░░░░░░ appointed by Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ In other words for ░░░░░░░░ who think they re ░░░░░░░░ judges these are judges ░░░░░░░░ are just as appalled ░░░░░░░░ anyone else at the ░░░░░░░░ of the crime here ░░░░░░░░ clearly understand what it ░░░░░░░░ to our democracy This ░░░░░░░░ a really significant sentence ░░░░░░░░ years is quite a ░░░░░░░░ of time to be ░░░░░░░░ down and I think ░░░░░░░░ really is a reflection ░░░░░░░░ trying to pick a ░░░░░░░░ that s commensurate with ░░░░░░░░ harm inflicted not just ░░░░░░░░ the people that day ░░░░░░░░ was significant enough on ░░░░░░░░ 6th the people in ░░░░░░░░ Capitol law enforcement Congress ░░░░░░░░ staff but to the ░░░░░░░░ as a whole And ░░░░░░░░ think Judge Kelly s ░░░░░░░░ that this cannot happen ░░░░░░░░ if we are to ░░░░░░░░ a democracy is I ░░░░░░░░ the thing that is ░░░░░░░░ the severity of this ░░░░░░░░ today WALLACE I mean ░░░░░░░░ your point Andrew I ░░░░░░░░ the read more from ░░░░░░░░ Obviously the sentence applies ░░░░░░░░ this defendant but there ░░░░░░░░ a real awareness of ░░░░░░░░ moment in which it ░░░░░░░░ down Let me read ░░░░░░░░ little bit more about ░░░░░░░░ this started This is ░░░░░░░░ judge speaking about the ░░░░░░░░ done on January 6th ░░░░░░░░ That day broke our ░░░░░░░░ unbroken tradition of peacefully ░░░░░░░░ power Quote That previously ░░░░░░░░ tradition is broken now ░░░░░░░░ it s going to ░░░░░░░░ time and effort to ░░░░░░░░ it Just a remarkable ░░░░░░░░ punch about damage done ░░░░░░░░ to your point not ░░░░░░░░ by these now convicted ░░░░░░░░ but by the conspiracy ░░░░░░░░ by the spectacle and ░░░░░░░░ what the world saw ░░░░░░░░ tradition of a peaceful ░░░░░░░░ of power something cherished ░░░░░░░░ the victors and those ░░░░░░░░ come up short in ░░░░░░░░ elections has been broken ░░░░░░░░ And Nicolle it s ░░░░░░░░ interesting you know I ░░░░░░░░ here in D C ░░░░░░░░ and I ve got ░░░░░░░░ Capitol behind me and ░░░░░░░░ D C court is ░░░░░░░░ down the street And ░░░░░░░░ difference between the court ░░░░░░░░ that is saying that ░░░░░░░░ rule of law upholding ░░░░░░░░ it means to be ░░░░░░░░ democracy upholding the right ░░░░░░░░ vote upholding the peaceful ░░░░░░░░ of power that is ░░░░░░░░ it is going to ░░░░░░░░ for and cherish And ░░░░░░░░ symbolism of the district ░░░░░░░░ in D C the ░░░░░░░░ court here upholding that ░░░░░░░░ when you know over ░░░░░░░░ shoulder there s an ░░░░░░░░ debate within Congress and ░░░░░░░░ were over 100 people ░░░░░░░░ sat in that body ░░░░░░░░ were fine with actually ░░░░░░░░ democracy on January 6th ░░░░░░░░ me that is what ░░░░░░░░ remarkable the fissure that ░░░░░░░░ going on in this ░░░░░░░░ but also represented by ░░░░░░░░ major institutions in this ░░░░░░░░ one the judiciary which ░░░░░░░░ think has largely held ░░░░░░░░ quite well and the ░░░░░░░░ WALLACE Andrew Weissmann thank ░░░░░░░░ for standing by I ░░░░░░░░ to give the judge ░░░░░░░░ last word I don ░░░░░░░░ have time to talk ░░░░░░░░ this but I want ░░░░░░░░ read this His not ░░░░░░░░ present did serve some ░░░░░░░░ purposes the judge said ░░░░░░░░ allow the lieutenants to ░░░░░░░░ up the crowd and ░░░░░░░░ from his perspective insulate ░░░░░░░░ in just the way ░░░░░░░░ s arguing now Makes ░░░░░░░░ wonder how perhaps a ░░░░░░░░ judge will look at ░░░░░░░░ who weren t there ░░░░░░░░ day.”
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