RUSH TRANSCRIPT On Milwaukee ░░░░░░░░ make their cases Neil ░░░░░░░░ thanks Mike Tobin One ░░░░░░░░ the Republicans that will ░░░░░░░░ on the stage is ░░░░░░░░ Ramaswamy He s didn ░░░░░░░░ enough to join us ░░░░░░░░ good to have you ░░░░░░░░ Good to see you ░░░░░░░░ let me ask you ░░░░░░░░ little bit about these ░░░░░░░░ indictments against the former ░░░░░░░░ You call them political ░░░░░░░░ Explain Look neil I ░░░░░░░░ t think we look ░░░░░░░░ these indictments without the ░░░░░░░░ of three other separate ░░░░░░░░ Several of which came ░░░░░░░░ the last four months ░░░░░░░░ Four different indictments in ░░░░░░░░ middle of an election ░░░░░░░░ sets an awful precedent ░░░░░░░░ our country for the ░░░░░░░░ party the power in ░░░░░░░░ to use the police ░░░░░░░░ to indict political opponents ░░░░░░░░ the middle of an ░░░░░░░░ I say this as ░░░░░░░░ I m polling at ░░░░░░░░ in this race third ░░░░░░░░ It would be a ░░░░░░░░ easier for me if ░░░░░░░░ Trump were eliminated from ░░░░░░░░ But that is not ░░░░░░░░ I want to win ░░░░░░░░ way we win elections ░░░░░░░░ this country is we ░░░░░░░░ the voters of this ░░░░░░░░ of our vision and ░░░░░░░░ we stand for That ░░░░░░░░ why I ve said ░░░░░░░░ would pardon for the ░░░░░░░░ crimes Donald Trump to ░░░░░░░░ move this nation forward ░░░░░░░░ am focused for example ░░░░░░░░ your economic message That ░░░░░░░░ what we need to ░░░░░░░░ talking more about Less ░░░░░░░░ the politicized indictments that ░░░░░░░░ distracted us from the ░░░░░░░░ issue That s the ░░░░░░░░ of the Biden DoJ ░░░░░░░░ the Democrat prosecutors across ░░░░░░░░ country instead of explaining ░░░░░░░░ Bidenomics is a farce ░░░░░░░░ failure with more job ░░░░░░░░ than people looking for ░░░░░░░░ Price increases that are ░░░░░░░░ permanent when wages have ░░░░░░░░ gone up over the ░░░░░░░░ period That is how ░░░░░░░░ re going to win ░░░░░░░░ election in a landslide ░░░░░░░░ s what I want ░░░░░░░░ talking about I say ░░░░░░░░ these prosecutions are wrong ░░░░░░░░ I can understand that ░░░░░░░░ s 91 criminal charges ░░░░░░░░ all Vivek as you ░░░░░░░░ aware over 4 criminal ░░░░░░░░ They can t all ░░░░░░░░ politicized can they Something ░░░░░░░░ the former president must ░░░░░░░░ done in any one ░░░░░░░░ these that struck you ░░░░░░░░ wrong if not illegal ░░░░░░░░ think just because the ░░░░░░░░ has brought a case ░░░░░░░░ we re going to ░░░░░░░░ a culture that says ░░░░░░░░ must be something wrong ░░░░░░░░ the government has charged ░░░░░░░░ counts that s a ░░░░░░░░ of sheep That breeds ░░░░░░░░ government of wolves That ░░░░░░░░ the reality Neil you ░░░░░░░░ t think there s ░░░░░░░░ in this case that ░░░░░░░░ or even strongly hints ░░░░░░░░ the former president trying ░░░░░░░░ reverse that Georgia contest ░░░░░░░░ you know I ve ░░░░░░░░ this conversation before There ░░░░░░░░ a difference between a ░░░░░░░░ judgment and an illegal ░░░░░░░░ I view this indictment ░░░░░░░░ the context of as ░░░░░░░░ put it three other ░░░░░░░░ indictments The first beginning ░░░░░░░░ New York for a ░░░░░░░░ election and campaign contribution ░░░░░░░░ to one that has ░░░░░░░░ novel theory interpreting the ░░░░░░░░ records act to a ░░░░░░░░ theory of attorney client ░░░░░░░░ When you have a ░░░░░░░░ of novel theories used ░░░░░░░░ inindictment a prior president ░░░░░░░░ a sitting candidate I ░░░░░░░░ t think it s ░░░░░░░░ for the country I ░░░░░░░░ this to lead our ░░░░░░░░ forward not to be ░░░░░░░░ political commentator or legal ░░░░░░░░ on a series of ░░░░░░░░ cases What I will ░░░░░░░░ as a candidate in ░░░░░░░░ race is that I ░░░░░░░░ not think it s ░░░░░░░░ for our country to ░░░░░░░░ this precedent Neil I ░░░░░░░░ that But if there ░░░░░░░░ if there is wrong ░░░░░░░░ Vivek I understand When ░░░░░░░░ have the Republican governor ░░░░░░░░ Georgia who has said ░░░░░░░░ report is irrefutable and ░░░░░░░░ this was an attempt ░░░░░░░░ voter fraud that was ░░░░░░░░ and you have others ░░░░░░░░ have taken similar views ░░░░░░░░ secretary state that is ░░░░░░░░ that said that Donald ░░░░░░░░ went too far wouldn ░░░░░░░░ you put your trust ░░░░░░░░ at least your instincts ░░░░░░░░ those guys Republicans that ░░░░░░░░ that this has been ░░░░░░░░ examined aggressively examined and ░░░░░░░░ was nothing to it ░░░░░░░░ I m running to ░░░░░░░░ our next president I ░░░░░░░░ what is in the ░░░░░░░░ of this nation Do ░░░░░░░░ believe that these prosecutors ░░░░░░░░ these elected officials or ░░░░░░░░ federal prosecutors are advancing ░░░░░░░░ interests of this nation ░░░░░░░░ they bring this unprecedented ░░░░░░░░ not one time baseball ░░░░░░░░ times over No our ░░░░░░░░ is worse off because ░░░░░░░░ this politicization Would I ░░░░░░░░ made different decisions than ░░░░░░░░ Trump Absolutely I would ░░░░░░░░ I ll remind you ░░░░░░░░ m running for U ░░░░░░░░ president in the same ░░░░░░░░ that he is I ░░░░░░░░ it s so important ░░░░░░░░ conversation that you and ░░░░░░░░ are having is evidence ░░░░░░░░ why this is a ░░░░░░░░ idea We re not ░░░░░░░░ about how to improve ░░░░░░░░ economy or how to ░░░░░░░░ our national identity Neil ░░░░░░░░ understand what you re ░░░░░░░░ but this is a ░░░░░░░░ deal Of course it ░░░░░░░░ That s why I ░░░░░░░░ Neil let me ask ░░░░░░░░ when you talk about ░░░░░░░░ to pardon Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ this why What would ░░░░░░░░ good about that if ░░░░░░░░ became president of the ░░░░░░░░ States to pardon him ░░░░░░░░ think the right answer ░░░░░░░░ this country is to ░░░░░░░░ forward Not to get ░░░░░░░░ to a weaponized tug ░░░░░░░░ war between two political ░░░░░░░░ that then make a ░░░░░░░░ of using politicized police ░░░░░░░░ against their political opponents ░░░░░░░░ s the stuff of ░░░░░░░░ republics We should be ░░░░░░░░ to disagree fiercely with ░░░░░░░░ another but still sort ░░░░░░░░ those disagreements through our ░░░░░░░░ process Culminating at the ░░░░░░░░ box while every vote ░░░░░░░░ equally That s how ░░░░░░░░ do things in the ░░░░░░░░ States Not by eliminating ░░░░░░░░ opponents using back door ░░░░░░░░ So my reason my ░░░░░░░░ reason for pardoning Donald ░░░░░░░░ at least in the ░░░░░░░░ offenses which will be ░░░░░░░░ is in my power ░░░░░░░░ includes the New York ░░░░░░░░ offenses because they include ░░░░░░░░ charge of an underlying ░░░░░░░░ as well it will ░░░░░░░░ this nation forward I ░░░░░░░░ t want to lead ░░░░░░░░ us a national divorce ░░░░░░░░ re skating on thin ░░░░░░░░ That s AI want ░░░░░░░░ lead to us a ░░░░░░░░ revival That will take ░░░░░░░░ That s why I ░░░░░░░░ saying even now when ░░░░░░░░ would be in myself ░░░░░░░░ last a candidate to ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump eliminated by ░░░░░░░░ counts that would put ░░░░░░░░ at number 1 in ░░░░░░░░ Republican primary polls that ░░░░░░░░ not how I want ░░░░░░░░ see it done that ░░░░░░░░ why I ve been ░░░░░░░░ particular about being vocal ░░░░░░░░ this Neil you also ░░░░░░░░ about the idea of ░░░░░░░░ out Donald Trump as ░░░░░░░░ you d use as ░░░░░░░░ adviser What did you ░░░░░░░░ by that I was ░░░░░░░░ about the cabinet members ░░░░░░░░ would choose Would I ░░░░░░░░ rivals of mine in ░░░░░░░░ Republican primary field The ░░░░░░░░ is I think several ░░░░░░░░ them could be good ░░░░░░░░ members I brought up ░░░░░░░░ Trump because I don ░░░░░░░░ think he would serve ░░░░░░░░ my cabinet but the ░░░░░░░░ I d wanted to ░░░░░░░░ him play be an ░░░░░░░░ on understanding where he ░░░░░░░░ have fallen short if ░░░░░░░░ would do it again ░░░░░░░░ down the administrative state ░░░░░░░░ s top of my ░░░░░░░░ shut down the administrative ░░░░░░░░ the deep state reduce ░░░░░░░░ federal employee head count ░░░░░░░░ 75 I ve read ░░░░░░░░ law neil Civil services ░░░░░░░░ don t apply to ░░░░░░░░ lay offs And mass ░░░░░░░░ offs are absolutely what ░░░░░░░░ am bringing to the ░░░░░░░░ C Bureaucracy I would ░░░░░░░░ to not have to ░░░░░░░░ those lessons all over ░░░░░░░░ but to build on ░░░░░░░░ Trump left off with ░░░░░░░░ America first agenda I ░░░░░░░░ in this race to ░░░░░░░░ that America first agenda ░░░░░░░░ the next level and ░░░░░░░░ in a way that ░░░░░░░░ this country I will ░░░░░░░░ everybody s help including ░░░░░░░░ s help in making ░░░░░░░░ successful in that role ░░░░░░░░ we ll follow it ░░░░░░░░ Vivek Good seeing you ░░░░░░░░ very much Vivek Ramaswamy ░░░░░░░░ candidate for president He ░░░░░░░░ make the debate stage.