Jamil Jaffer on the DoJ Case Against Trump: They Were Thinking About an Insurrection Charge But Didn’t Charge It

KEILAR Jameel thank you ░░░░░░░░ much for being with ░░░░░░░░ here When you take ░░░░░░░░ look at this indictment ░░░░░░░░ strong do you think ░░░░░░░░ DoJ s case is ░░░░░░░░ you see any weaknesses ░░░░░░░░ JAFFER Well you know ░░░░░░░░ have a decent case ░░░░░░░░ they can prove all ░░░░░░░░ facts of the indictment ░░░░░░░░ think the challenge they ░░░░░░░░ is twofold One they ░░░░░░░░ t go they come ░░░░░░░░ all the way up ░░░░░░░░ the line of thinking ░░░░░░░░ an insurrection charge they ░░░░░░░░ t charge it right ░░░░░░░░ seems to be a ░░░░░░░░ right Jack Smith talked ░░░░░░░░ it yesterday at his ░░░░░░░░ conference He starts out ░░░░░░░░ about the heroism of ░░░░░░░░ Capitol Police but doesn ░░░░░░░░ directly charge that offense ░░░░░░░░ the indictment On top ░░░░░░░░ that these questions of ░░░░░░░░ speech the indictment itself ░░░░░░░░ the president can you ░░░░░░░░ say these things tell ░░░░░░░░ lies if he wants ░░░░░░░░ but apparently it says ░░░░░░░░ can t go further ░░░░░░░░ then conspire to obstruct ░░░░░░░░ official proceeding or defraud ░░░░░░░░ United States with his ░░░░░░░░ That s a gray ░░░░░░░░ and a tough area ░░░░░░░░ one that is clear ░░░░░░░░ Supreme Court might do ░░░░░░░░ KEILAR Because a lot ░░░░░░░░ critics looked at what ░░░░░░░░ said that day and ░░░░░░░░ he incited people he ░░░░░░░░ people to go up ░░░░░░░░ But in your view ░░░░░░░░ Jack Smith seeing this ░░░░░░░░ too much of coming ░░░░░░░░ clash with the First ░░░░░░░░ that he feels that ░░░░░░░░ may be a path ░░░░░░░░ he won t succeed ░░░░░░░░ JAFFER Well that s ░░░░░░░░ hard part because we ░░░░░░░░ what Cassidy Hutchinson told ░░░░░░░░ committee Now maybe Jack ░░░░░░░░ isn t sure he ░░░░░░░░ rely on that testimony ░░░░░░░░ what she said was ░░░░░░░░ president knew the people ░░░░░░░░ the audience were armed ░░░░░░░░ said Let them come ░░░░░░░░ they re not here ░░░░░░░░ harm me Raises the ░░░░░░░░ who were they there ░░░░░░░░ harm And then he ░░░░░░░░ to those very people ░░░░░░░░ he understood were armed ░░░░░░░░ to the Capitol I ░░░░░░░░ coming with you we ░░░░░░░░ going to solve this ░░░░░░░░ I mean if that ░░░░░░░░ t amount to insurrection ░░░░░░░░ what does it amount ░░░░░░░░ So you got to ░░░░░░░░ yourself if it is ░░░░░░░░ to bring up the ░░░░░░░░ Amendment concerns with defrauding ░░░░░░░░ United States why not ░░░░░░░░ the insurrection point What ░░░░░░░░ going on here If ░░░░░░░░ has a weak First ░░░░░░░░ case how does it ░░░░░░░░ undermine his defrauding case ░░░░░░░░ well?”