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Fmr. U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine: Joining the NATO Is the Best Guarantee for Ukraine Not To Be Invaded Again
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CNN

Name: CNN
URL: http://www.cnn.com/
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CNN This Morning

Name: CNN This Morning
URL: https://www.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/cnn-this-morning
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Phil Mattingly
, William Taylor
, Audie Cornish

Name: Phil Mattingly
Employment: CNN
Position: Correspondent

Name: William Taylor
Employment: U.S. Institute of Peace
Position: Vice President of Europe and Russia Center

Name: Audie Cornish
Employment: NPR News
Position: Host, Reporter
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07/04/2023 07:08 am
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CORNISH Welcome to the ░░░░░░░░ Taylor Thank you Audie ░░░░░░░░ Now just because the ░░░░░░░░ president says it s ░░░░░░░░ decision that has to ░░░░░░░░ made doesn t necessarily ░░░░░░░░ it does Can you ░░░░░░░░ about what the traditional ░░░░░░░░ S reluctance has been ░░░░░░░░ embracing Ukraine into NATO ░░░░░░░░ Yes This has been ░░░░░░░░ the table for a ░░░░░░░░ time the question about ░░░░░░░░ in NATO It came ░░░░░░░░ of course in 2008 ░░░░░░░░ President Bush pushed NATO ░░░░░░░░ give an invitation to ░░░░░░░░ and Georgia to join ░░░░░░░░ It d be interesting ░░░░░░░░ go back if we ░░░░░░░░ do this over again ░░░░░░░░ the NATO alliance had ░░░░░░░░ yes at that time ░░░░░░░░ war today may not ░░░░░░░░ happened because Ukraine would ░░░░░░░░ been in NATO and ░░░░░░░░ would not have attacked ░░░░░░░░ that debate continues And ░░░░░░░░ it is as president ░░░░░░░░ just said it s ░░░░░░░░ to the summit in ░░░░░░░░ another NATO summit coming ░░░░░░░░ this month and the ░░░░░░░░ will be for all ░░░░░░░░ heads of state They ░░░░░░░░ probably still thinking about ░░░░░░░░ And I think he ░░░░░░░░ right President Bush President ░░░░░░░░ is now considering exactly ░░░░░░░░ question And that will ░░░░░░░░ the question for the ░░░░░░░░ of state in Vilnius ░░░░░░░░ two weeks MATTINGLY Ambassador ░░░░░░░░ to be candid in ░░░░░░░░ to White House officials ░░░░░░░░ national security team officials ░░░░░░░░ ve never gotten a ░░░░░░░░ that a near term ░░░░░░░░ on this was ever ░░░░░░░░ the realm of possibility ░░░░░░░░ understand why President Zelenskyy ░░░░░░░░ to push for that ░░░░░░░░ s exactly what he ░░░░░░░░ be doing in this ░░░░░░░░ in time So what ░░░░░░░░ the outcome in Lithuania ░░░░░░░░ the NATO summit that ░░░░░░░░ of threads the needle ░░░░░░░░ between where the U ░░░░░░░░ is on this issue ░░░░░░░░ concerns they have there ░░░░░░░░ active conflict going on ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine right now and ░░░░░░░░ and trying to provide ░░░░░░░░ type of long term ░░░░░░░░ guarantee as part of ░░░░░░░░ they re putting together ░░░░░░░░ just now Taylor Beyond ░░░░░░░░ now Phil you re ░░░░░░░░ And I think most ░░░░░░░░ agree probably President Zelenskyy ░░░░░░░░ that joining NATO actually ░░░░░░░░ a member of NATO ░░░░░░░░ now is not in ░░░░░░░░ cards for Ukraine It ░░░░░░░░ not going to happen ░░░░░░░░ there s active conflict ░░░░░░░░ what the Vilnius summit ░░░░░░░░ do is basically invite ░░░░░░░░ to join when conditions ░░░░░░░░ appropriate That is when ░░░░░░░░ s possible for Ukraine ░░░░░░░░ join then they will ░░░░░░░░ That s the message ░░░░░░░░ Ukrainians are looking for ░░░░░░░░ a firm commitment that ░░░░░░░░ conditions are right once ░░░░░░░░ s appropriate once it ░░░░░░░░ sense then they ll ░░░░░░░░ able to join NATO ░░░░░░░░ s the only way ░░░░░░░░ they can have that ░░░░░░░░ guarantee Phil that you ░░░░░░░░ They need something to ░░░░░░░░ to investors to their ░░░░░░░░ to the world that ░░░░░░░░ re not going to ░░░░░░░░ invaded again And the ░░░░░░░░ guarantee is to be ░░░░░░░░ member of NATO.”
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