AOC on Debt Limit Talks: This Is Not About Debt or Deficit, This Is About Power

LIZZA On the process ░░░░░░░░ Louisa Terrell Steve Ricchetti ░░░░░░░░ Young of those three ░░░░░░░░ guess the question is ░░░░░░░░ you have any concerns ░░░░░░░░ that team being the ░░░░░░░░ that s negotiating this ░░░░░░░░ there one of those ░░░░░░░░ mean Ricchetti kind of ░░░░░░░░ a bad reputation among ░░░░░░░░ lot of progressives is ░░░░░░░░ like still the the ░░░░░░░░ Ocasio Cortez Well what ░░░░░░░░ think is important is ░░░░░░░░ I think these are ░░░░░░░░ that are like very ░░░░░░░░ skilled very knowledgeable about ░░░░░░░░ ins and outs of ░░░░░░░░ requirements but these decisions ░░░░░░░░ not about administration or ░░░░░░░░ fine lines of rulemaking ░░░░░░░░ negotiations are not really ░░░░░░░░ that LIZZA Yeah Ocasio ░░░░░░░░ And that is where ░░░░░░░░ think this is really ░░░░░░░░ the president and who ░░░░░░░░ around him and how ░░░░░░░░ are choosing to navigate ░░░░░░░░ intersection of power This ░░░░░░░░ is about power LIZZA ░░░░░░░░ Ocasio Cortez People may ░░░░░░░░ like that People may ░░░░░░░░ want the situation to ░░░░░░░░ about that But that ░░░░░░░░ fundamentally what this is ░░░░░░░░ Because Kevin McCarthy s ░░░░░░░░ have never been consistent ░░░░░░░░ deeply substantive This is ░░░░░░░░ about debt this is ░░░░░░░░ about deficit And that ░░░░░░░░ evidenced by the fact ░░░░░░░░ they re trying to ░░░░░░░░ put permitting reform on ░░░░░░░░ table here This is ░░░░░░░░ no way a substantive ░░░░░░░░ from the Republican side ░░░░░░░░ is about a desire ░░░░░░░░ build communicate and exert ░░░░░░░░ power than they have ░░░░░░░░ how the president manages ░░░░░░░░ a challenge can potentially ░░░░░░░░ into him giving up ░░░░░░░░ power and Kevin McCarthy ░░░░░░░░ a posture into a ░░░░░░░░ firm position.”