AOC on Debt Limit Talks: ‘No Matter What, Kevin McCarthy ... Needs Democrats to Bail Him Out’

LIZZA Let s start ░░░░░░░░ the the debt limit ░░░░░░░░ and just very open ░░░░░░░░ where do you think ░░░░░░░░ re at What are ░░░░░░░░ sort of concerns about ░░░░░░░░ things are And what ░░░░░░░░ you sort of optimistic ░░░░░░░░ Ocasio Cortez I ll ░░░░░░░░ with policy first Policy ░░░░░░░░ it is so important ░░░░░░░░ us to emphasize what ░░░░░░░░ actual stakes here are ░░░░░░░░ also the context that ░░░░░░░░ re in The debt ░░░░░░░░ is not a vehicle ░░░░░░░░ wholesale political agenda setting ░░░░░░░░ cannot be that because ░░░░░░░░ cannot have the entire ░░░░░░░░ of the full U ░░░░░░░░ economy put at risk ░░░░░░░░ a political back and ░░░░░░░░ There s a strong ░░░░░░░░ why this has not ░░░░░░░░ a vehicle for negotiations ░░░░░░░░ it should not be ░░░░░░░░ vehicle for negotiations Now ░░░░░░░░ terms of the policy ░░░░░░░░ what Kevin McCarthy is ░░░░░░░░ to propose this is ░░░░░░░░ some back and forth ░░░░░░░░ with no stakes But ░░░░░░░░ politics of the situation ░░░░░░░░ think is really important ░░░░░░░░ discuss as well You ░░░░░░░░ President Biden at the ░░░░░░░░ House you have Democratic ░░░░░░░░ of the Senate but ░░░░░░░░ even within the House ░░░░░░░░ there is a Republican ░░░░░░░░ in the House they ░░░░░░░░ not have the Republican ░░░░░░░░ in the House to ░░░░░░░░ even their own proposal ░░░░░░░░ their own package And ░░░░░░░░ this idea of negotiating ░░░░░░░░ Didn t they pass ░░░░░░░░ Ocasio Cortez Pardon LIZZA ░░░░░░░░ t they pass it ░░░░░░░░ Cortez They passed a ░░░░░░░░ bill But if that ░░░░░░░░ were to come back ░░░░░░░░ be the real deal ░░░░░░░░ I do not think ░░░░░░░░ would have the same ░░░░░░░░ on actual final passage ░░░░░░░░ so what is really ░░░░░░░░ I think to understand ░░░░░░░░ is that it really ░░░░░░░░ that no matter what ░░░░░░░░ McCarthy in the House ░░░░░░░░ going to require he ░░░░░░░░ Democrats to bail him ░░░░░░░░ This is not a ░░░░░░░░ of him holding all ░░░░░░░░ the cards and that ░░░░░░░░ what makes the difference ░░░░░░░░ party is not united ░░░░░░░░ not only is it ░░░░░░░░ united by a little ░░░░░░░░ re hearing and we ░░░░░░░░ really seeing that most ░░░░░░░░ the evidence is pointing ░░░░░░░░ he only has two ░░░░░░░░ of his caucus and ░░░░░░░░ may need many many ░░░░░░░░ votes And so for ░░░░░░░░ I think it s ░░░░░░░░ important to understand exactly ░░░░░░░░ weak his hand is ░░░░░░░░ and also the the ░░░░░░░░ options that President Biden ░░░░░░░░ Democrats have are frankly ░░░░░░░░ broader than the ones ░░░░░░░░ he has right now.”