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Vivek Ramaswamy Appears on The Hill TV’s ‘Rising’
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The Hill

Name: The Hill
URL: http://thehill.com/
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Rising
Name: Rising
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Robby Soave
, Briahna Joy Gray / Briahna Gray
, Vivek Ramaswamy

Name: Robby Soave
Employment: Reason.com
Position: Associate Editor

Name: Briahna Joy Gray / Briahna Gray
Employment: Bad Faith Podcast
Position: Host

Name: Vivek Ramaswamy
Employment: Roivant Sciences
Position: Founder
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RUSH TRANSCRIPT Twitter CEO ░░░░░░░░ Musk says cancel culture ░░░░░░░░ over as a result ░░░░░░░░ his takeover of Twitter ░░░░░░░░ rip cancel culture You ░░░░░░░░ t be missed two ░░░░░░░░ elsewhere on the culture ░░░░░░░░ front the c e ░░░░░░░░ of anti woke inc ░░░░░░░░ his eyes on the ░░░░░░░░ According to new reporting ░░░░░░░░ Politico Biotech founder and ░░░░░░░░ political star a vague ░░░░░░░░ Swami has gained attention ░░░░░░░░ his disdain for identity ░░░░░░░░ and virtue signaling on ░░░░░░░░ left Welcome the vague ░░░░░░░░ see you guys Are ░░░░░░░░ doing well thanks for ░░░░░░░░ us So Obviously this ░░░░░░░░ some big news in ░░░░░░░░ that you re planning ░░░░░░░░ run for present and ░░░░░░░░ re not someone currently ░░░░░░░░ political office and you ░░░░░░░░ not someone I think ░░░░░░░░ with huge wreck name ░░░░░░░░ outside of conservative media ░░░░░░░░ I m very interested ░░░░░░░░ have you talked to ░░░░░░░░ about why you decided ░░░░░░░░ run for president and ░░░░░░░░ you re hoping to ░░░░░░░░ in terms of talking ░░░░░░░░ solutions to the problems ░░░░░░░░ know you speak a ░░░░░░░░ about it in terms ░░░░░░░░ identity politics woke this ░░░░░░░░ etc Yeah absolutely so ░░░░░░░░ m strongly considering run ░░░░░░░░ been actually very transparent ░░░░░░░░ that expect to make ░░░░░░░░ decision in the relative ░░░░░░░░ term But to me ░░░░░░░░ is less a question ░░░░░░░░ the who okay and ░░░░░░░░ we obsess over that ░░░░░░░░ too much It s ░░░░░░░░ question about the what ░░░░░░░░ the why What agenda ░░░░░░░░ we stand for and ░░░░░░░░ do we stand for ░░░░░░░░ And I say this ░░░░░░░░ a first generation American ░░░░░░░░ I have criticized this ░░░░░░░░ infection in every sphere ░░░░░░░░ our lives of written ░░░░░░░░ couple of books of ░░░░░░░░ against the east cancer ░░░░░░░░ through the market over ░░░░░░░░ last year by starting ░░░░░░░░ new firm But I ░░░░░░░░ a really concluded that ░░░░░░░░ real problem is upstream ░░░░░░░░ generation our nation is ░░░░░░░░ hungry for a cause ░░░░░░░░ re hungry for purpose ░░░░░░░░ meaning an identity He ░░░░░░░░ a moment in our ░░░░░░░░ history when the things ░░░░░░░░ used to fill that ░░░░░░░░ like fate or patriotism ░░░░░░░░ even hard work have ░░░░░░░░ and I think that ░░░░░░░░ an opportunity for the ░░░░░░░░ movement to fill that ░░░░░░░░ with something so meaningful ░░░░░░░░ it dilutes this woke ░░░░░░░░ to irrelevance Why do ░░░░░░░░ see the rise of ░░░░░░░░ Isn t or climate ░░░░░░░░ t Coby autism It ░░░░░░░░ because it fills that ░░░░░░░░ of identity at the ░░░░░░░░ of the American soul ░░░░░░░░ that s actually how ░░░░░░░░ solved That s not ░░░░░░░░ plane whack a mole ░░░░░░░░ at a time not ░░░░░░░░ by criticizing the other ░░░░░░░░ though it is important ░░░░░░░░ see the problem with ░░░░░░░░ eyes but to fill ░░░░░░░░ vacuum with a sense ░░░░░░░░ American purpose and identity ░░░░░░░░ is so meaningful That ░░░░░░░░ can dilute the poison ░░░░░░░░ irrelevance and to the ░░░░░░░░ I m considering doing ░░░░░░░░ That would be why ░░░░░░░░ d be on this ░░░░░░░░ and they help me ░░░░░░░░ why you see woke ░░░░░░░░ as the core issue ░░░░░░░░ or at least a ░░░░░░░░ symptom of what you ░░░░░░░░ described as as as ░░░░░░░░ essential issue which is ░░░░░░░░ lack of emphasis on ░░░░░░░░ work or semi is ░░░░░░░░ qualities When I look ░░░░░░░░ the country when I ░░░░░░░░ a lot on what ░░░░░░░░ think I heard a ░░░░░░░░ in the context of ░░░░░░░░ burning campaign which obviously ░░░░░░░░ a lot of people ░░░░░░░░ they are working very ░░░░░░░░ hard but that returns ░░░░░░░░ their work are not ░░░░░░░░ they were 20 30 ░░░░░░░░ years ago that the ░░░░░░░░ of the pie that ░░░░░░░░ get for their labor ░░░░░░░░ smaller At the same ░░░░░░░░ that corporations and extractive ░░░░░░░░ like hedge funds that ░░░░░░░░ venture capital have taken ░░░░░░░░ and more of their ░░░░░░░░ at the same time ░░░░░░░░ their dollar goes less ░░░░░░░░ less far paying for ░░░░░░░░ like food and health ░░░░░░░░ and education And you ░░░░░░░░ in even Republican strongholds ░░░░░░░░ in Florida They voted ░░░░░░░░ 20 20 to increase ░░░░░░░░ minimum ways to 15 ░░░░░░░░ an hour which to ░░░░░░░░ isn t evidence of ░░░░░░░░ country that says I ░░░░░░░░ t like to work ░░░░░░░░ as evidence of a ░░░░░░░░ and Americans who are ░░░░░░░░ we re not getting ░░░░░░░░ the value of their ░░░░░░░░ So what do you ░░░░░░░░ to people who are ░░░░░░░░ on those kind of ░░░░░░░░ economic concerns and fresh ░░░░░░░░ that both Republicans and ░░░░░░░░ Do I think of ░░░░░░░░ time at many points ░░░░░░░░ to focus on identity ░░░░░░░░ talking about work as ░░░░░░░░ Democrats putting rainbow flags ░░░░░░░░ missiles etc and of ░░░░░░░░ delivering economically for the ░░░░░░░░ people want to make ░░░░░░░░ observation of the you ░░░░░░░░ made Some pretty good ░░░░░░░░ there The old left ░░░░░░░░ pre two thousand eight ░░░░░░░░ used to be concerned ░░░░░░░░ economic injustice and even ░░░░░░░░ like poverty and economic ░░░░░░░░ and and fortune What ░░░░░░░░ in the back of ░░░░░░░░ two thousand and eight ░░░░░░░░ crisis is after the ░░░░░░░░ and I m very ░░░░░░░░ of the Republican administration ░░░░░░░░ was critical of the ░░░░░░░░ of critical today that ░░░░░░░░ to those bailouts the ░░░░░░░░ Administration on the back ░░░░░░░░ those bailouts That ago ░░░░░░░░ a lot of people ░░░░░░░░ the left any been ░░░░░░░░ of the right who ░░░░░░░░ it That s just ░░░░░░░░ capitalism That s a ░░░░░░░░ system where bankers made ░░░░░░░░ lotta money went Times ░░░░░░░░ good Now they get ░░░░░░░░ out by the public ░░░░░░░░ When times get bad ░░░░░░░░ we need at least ░░░░░░░░ money from those wealthy ░░░░░░░░ fat cats too poor ░░░░░░░░ But what happened was ░░░░░░░░ rise of this woke ░░░░░░░░ actually allowed the corporations ░░░░░░░░ this country to deflect ░░░░░░░░ ability by marrying this ░░░░░░░░ woke left that preaches ░░░░░░░░ climate them and Racism ░░░░░░░░ misogyny and bigotry so ░░░░░░░░ view that is an ░░░░░░░░ debates and maybe is ░░░░░░░░ agree with what you ░░░░░░░░ now I Don t ░░░░░░░░ that my focus on ░░░░░░░░ woke infection is a ░░░░░░░░ on identity arianism because ░░░░░░░░ want to get rid ░░░░░░░░ identity It isn t ░░░░░░░░ that we can go ░░░░░░░░ to actually debating the ░░░░░░░░ issues of how we ░░░░░░░░ prosper and move forward ░░░░░░░░ a country But in ░░░░░░░░ to do that we ░░░░░░░░ have to take on ░░░░░░░░ dismantle these toxic ideology ░░░░░░░░ that now are getting ░░░░░░░░ in the next generation ░░░░░░░░ Americans teaching them identity ░░░░░░░░ the color of your ░░░░░░░░ not the content of ░░░░░░░░ character s That s ░░░░░░░░ moves me is taking ░░░░░░░░ those ideologies I ve ░░░░░░░░ critical of a lot ░░░░░░░░ the same things you ░░░░░░░░ critical of and you ░░░░░░░░ talking about that I ░░░░░░░░ the difficulty becomes What ░░░░░░░░ the solution especially for ░░░░░░░░ to I think rightly ░░░░░░░░ in the past our ░░░░░░░░ are critical of government ░░░░░░░░ etc But but now ░░░░░░░░ saying well the decisions ░░░░░░░░ made by companies like ░░░░░░░░ and netflix etc We ░░░░░░░░ t like them but ░░░░░░░░ do we do we ░░░░░░░░ you you said purge ░░░░░░░░ toxic ideology does that ░░░░░░░░ government involvement in a ░░░░░░░░ that then well What ░░░░░░░░ were holding party is ░░░░░░░░ all of it s ░░░░░░░░ notions on this on ░░░░░░░░ on what what government ░░░░░░░░ relationship to private industry ░░░░░░░░ be great question so ░░░░░░░░ think that there s ░░░░░░░░ lot of nuance your ░░░░░░░░ ve said the Republican ░░░░░░░░ needs to stop reciting ░░░░░░░░ they memorized back in ░░░░░░░░ 80 and wake up ░░░░░░░░ the real threats to ░░░░░░░░ and prosperity Today one ░░░░░░░░ the policies I ve ░░░░░░░░ for for example is ░░░░░░░░ political expression a civil ░░░░░░░░ in this country I ░░░░░░░░ t care if you ░░░░░░░░ on the left or ░░░░░░░░ right you should not ░░░░░░░░ to choose between putting ░░░░░░░░ on the dinner table ░░░░░░░░ speaking your mind freely ░░░░░░░░ s the quintessential Nation ░░░░░░░░ you get to enjoy ░░░░░░░░ of those things at ░░░░░░░░ getting rid of race ░░░░░░░░ affirmative action programs not ░░░░░░░░ in college admissions but ░░░░░░░░ other spheres of life ░░░░░░░░ what are one of ░░░░░░░░ counter arguments you hear ░░░░░░░░ you hear legacy admissions ░░░░░░░░ If you if your ░░░░░░░░ or grandparents went to ░░░░░░░░ you have a better ░░░░░░░░ of getting it I ░░░░░░░░ say get rid of ░░░░░░░░ two So that s ░░░░░░░░ valid counter argument that ░░░░░░░░ public the need to ░░░░░░░░ off their high horse ░░░░░░░░ wake up to the ░░░░░░░░ that if we want ░░░░░░░░ apply meritocracy let s ░░░░░░░░ have a meritocracy in ░░░░░░░░ country That s something ░░░░░░░░ I happen to favor ░░░░░░░░ say you know what ░░░░░░░░ people like my parents ░░░░░░░░ came to this country ░░░░░░░░ the front door legally ░░░░░░░░ a family had two ░░░░░░░░ who went on to ░░░░░░░░ companies that helped thousands ░░░░░░░░ people great We should ░░░░░░░░ more immigrants like the ░░░░░░░░ open about that but ░░░░░░░░ means unapologetically securing the ░░░░░░░░ and saying that people ░░░░░░░░ first active entering this ░░░░░░░░ is a lawbreaking one ░░░░░░░░ not be able to ░░░░░░░░ to this country full ░░░░░░░░ I think that there ░░░░░░░░ room for actually looking ░░░░░░░░ a lot of solutions ░░░░░░░░ and in one of ░░░░░░░░ big problems in the ░░░░░░░░ generation of Americans is ░░░░░░░░ rise of addictive social ░░░░░░░░ I think if you ░░░░░░░░ t smoke in addictive ░░░░░░░░ by the age of ░░░░░░░░ I Don t think ░░░░░░░░ should be able to ░░░░░░░░ an addictive social media ░░░░░░░░ by the age of ░░░░░░░░ or 16 either and ░░░░░░░░ s not a partisan ░░░░░░░░ new messages We need ░░░░░░░░ wake up to the ░░░░░░░░ Challenges of today it ░░░░░░░░ not 19 80 anymore ░░░░░░░░ Abraham Lincoln said the ░░░░░░░░ of a quiet past ░░░░░░░░ I often quote are ░░░░░░░░ to the stormy present ░░░░░░░░ s wake up to ░░░░░░░░ present and address those ░░░░░░░░ and right there with ░░░░░░░░ think he said use ░░░░░░░░ a lot there Get ░░░░░░░░ into one I m ░░░░░░░░ what I m curious ░░░░░░░░ and I Don t ░░░░░░░░ the First Amendment as ░░░░░░░░ the kinds of political ░░░░░░░░ that you would like ░░░░░░░░ have a specific bill ░░░░░░░░ constitutional limits not clear ░░░░░░░░ me orbital their attack ░░░░░░░░ also a couple of ░░░░░░░░ points by it Just ░░░░░░░░ in there You would ░░░░░░░░ to ban social media ░░░░░░░░ other kind of addictive ░░░░░░░░ that we would like ░░░░░░░░ ban Would you ban ░░░░░░░░ Would you ban cigarettes ░░░░░░░░ you ban fast food ░░░░░░░░ you ban soda Because ░░░░░░░░ think there are some ░░░░░░░░ libertarian minded people in ░░░░░░░░ audience That would be ░░░░░░░░ skeptical of some of ░░░░░░░░ policies And lastly you ░░░░░░░░ reference a couple of ░░░░░░░░ Climate is an engine ░░░░░░░░ and I want to ░░░░░░░░ I believe you re ░░░░░░░░ biology major at Harvard ░░░░░░░░ you buy an interest ░░░░░░░░ the biologist biologists not ░░░░░░░░ science but do not ░░░░░░░░ in global warming Do ░░░░░░░░ that a transition to ░░░░░░░░ technologies is is not ░░░░░░░░ problem You want to ░░░░░░░░ rid of some of ░░░░░░░░ you ve described as ░░░░░░░░ as but I wonder ░░░░░░░░ you have to say ░░░░░░░░ people like my family ░░░░░░░░ are not recent immigrants ░░░░░░░░ who all of my ░░░░░░░░ and uncles on my ░░░░░░░░ s side graduated from ░░░░░░░░ schools are were not ░░░░░░░░ with silver right in ░░░░░░░░ country are very new ░░░░░░░░ our ability to access ░░░░░░░░ American dream The your ░░░░░░░░ were able to access ░░░░░░░░ they first immigrated to ░░░░░░░░ country And what do ░░░░░░░░ say to folks at ░░░░░░░░ and you re attack ░░░░░░░░ work as I m ░░░░░░░░ attack on the very ░░░░░░░░ rights legacy that enabled ░░░░░░░░ parents to have rights ░░░░░░░░ they came to this ░░░░░░░░ Lot of great questions ░░░░░░░░ it in their livelihood ░░░░░░░░ many of them as ░░░░░░░░ can starting with the ░░░░░░░░ one I think the ░░░░░░░░ Party should be the ░░░░░░░░ that embraces not just ░░░░░░░░ I of being the ░░░░░░░░ of Lincoln as was ░░░░░░░░ even the party of ░░░░░░░░ message that you get ░░░░░░░░ in this country not ░░░░░░░░ the color of your ░░░░░░░░ but in the content ░░░░░░░░ your character in one ░░░░░░░░ the things that bothers ░░░░░░░░ is this new wave ░░░░░░░░ anti black racism that ░░░░░░░░ are seeing in America ░░░░░░░░ I think there s ░░░░░░░░ better way to cause ░░░░░░░░ against a racial group ░░░░░░░░ by creating structures that ░░░░░░░░ the perception and in ░░░░░░░░ cases the reality of ░░░░░░░░ your seat in college ░░░░░░░░ your job or your ░░░░░░░░ at a promotion because ░░░░░░░░ the color of your ░░░░░░░░ So it s not ░░░░░░░░ anti white anti Asian ░░░░░░░░ That bothers me but ░░░░░░░░ bluntly Condescension that that ░░░░░░░░ an animal that that ░░░░░░░░ towards black and Hispanic ░░░░░░░░ in the workplace or ░░░░░░░░ in school That element ░░░░░░░░ are be surrounded by ░░░░░░░░ lot of questions but ░░░░░░░░ the others do if ░░░░░░░░ like I could quickly ░░░░░░░░ the others and and ░░░░░░░░ go over your shoulder ░░░░░░░░ great questions they re ░░░░░░░░ Let me just be ░░░░░░░░ clear Other forms to ░░░░░░░░ I think that temperatures ░░░░░░░░ likely going up there ░░░░░░░░ going up due to ░░░░░░░░ made causes However these ░░░░░░░░ best way to protect ░░░░░░░░ the effects of climate ░░░░░░░░ isn t through abandoning ░░░░░░░░ fuels It is little ░░░░░░░░ fossil fuel usage That ░░░░░░░░ a blunt reality where ░░░░░░░░ look at the number ░░░░░░░░ people who die of ░░░░░░░░ related disasters today for ░░░░░░░░ one hundred that died ░░░░░░░░ 19 20 two died ░░░░░░░░ that the 90 eight ░░░░░░░░ reduction and that s ░░░░░░░░ by advances powered by ░░░░░░░░ fuels and so I ░░░░░░░░ that yes you got ░░░░░░░░ see the fact with ░░░░░░░░ eyes but you can ░░░░░░░░ approach them with the ░░░░░░░░ zealotry that causes you ░░░░░░░░ only adopt one set ░░░░░░░░ behaviors that actually or ░░░░░░░░ self defeating for example ░░░░░░░░ hostility towards nuclear Energy ░░░░░░░░ the climate movement or ░░░░░░░░ the fact that they ░░░░░░░░ fine with shifting production ░░░░░░░░ places like China and ░░░░░░░░ where methane leakage is ░░░░░░░░ worse and methane is ░░░░░░░░ worse for global warming ░░░░░░░░ carbon dioxide actually reveals ░░░░░░░░ this agenda isn t ░░░░░░░░ the climate It s ░░░░░░░░ a religious zealotry that ░░░░░░░░ grounded in this vision ░░░░░░░░ equity and then the ░░░░░░░░ question asked was I ░░░░░░░░ to call myself a ░░░░░░░░ even so I think ░░░░░░░░ have a lot of ░░░░░░░░ thing still left in ░░░░░░░░ What s going on ░░░░░░░░ with Big Tech censorship ░░░░░░░░ t companies actually still ░░░░░░░░ allowed to decide what ░░░░░░░░ t doesn t show ░░░░░░░░ on their websites for ░░░░░░░░ Well you know what ░░░░░░░░ Don t call it ░░░░░░░░ Tech censorship anymore I ░░░░░░░░ it what it is ░░░░░░░░ tech censorship because what ░░░░░░░░ see today is the ░░░░░░░░ is using these companies ░░░░░░░░ s pressure them through ░░░░░░░░ giving them special inducements ░░░░░░░░ section two 30 see ░░░░░░░░ among others to do ░░░░░░░░ the backdoor What government ░░░░░░░░ not do through the ░░░░░░░░ door under the Constitution ░░░░░░░░ I say that if ░░░░░░░░ is state action in ░░░░░░░░ then the Constitution still ░░░░░░░░ These companies ought to ░░░░░░░░ bound by the First ░░░░░░░░ to the Constitution
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