RUSH TRANSCRIPT How I ░░░░░░░░ truly not a surgeon ░░░░░░░░ am a lawyer but ░░░░░░░░ are the odds that ░░░░░░░░ had double in the ░░░░░░░░ playing volleyball for a ░░░░░░░░ you actually never attended ░░░░░░░░ wonderful odds in your ░░░░░░░░ A lot of talk ░░░░░░░░ tonight all this CNN ░░░░░░░░ law enforcement analyst and ░░░░░░░░ FBI deputy director Andrew ░░░░░░░░ He s also the ░░░░░░░░ of the threat how ░░░░░░░░ FBI protects America in ░░░░░░░░ age of terror and ░░░░░░░░ Also legal analyst and ░░░░░░░░ judiciary special counsel for ░░░░░░░░ s first impeachment trial ░░░░░░░░ former pastor norm eisman ░░░░░░░░ White House correspondent So ░░░░░░░░ there are here tonight ░░░░░░░░ were not to talk ░░░░░░░░ the knee surgery or ░░░░░░░░ replacement right now We ░░░░░░░░ other things to discuss ░░░░░░░░ what is happening in ░░░░░░░░ White House And have ░░░░░░░░ begin with you arlette ░░░░░░░░ think about all that ░░░░░░░░ of trickling out It ░░░░░░░░ dripping hand dropping It ░░░░░░░░ not just a one ░░░░░░░░ done What is the ░░░░░░░░ from Biden It is ░░░░░░░░ they didn t get ░░░░░░░░ of it Is that ░░░░░░░░ are paying attention to ░░░░░░░░ Are you getting a ░░░░░░░░ of it But the ░░░░░░░░ House has really struggled ░░░░░░░░ beginning from stopping this ░░░░░░░░ a streaming into the ░░░░░░░░ that it s become ░░░░░░░░ sources have told us ░░░░░░░░ basically the president has ░░░░░░░░ really frustrated with the ░░░░░░░░ of how exactly this ░░░░░░░░ all unfolding Heading into ░░░░░░░░ year the White House ░░░░░░░░ Biden we re really ░░░░░░░░ high They feel like ░░░░░░░░ have a lot of ░░░░░░░░ going their way And ░░░░░░░░ is getting closer to ░░░░░░░░ decision about that 2024 ░░░░░░░░ But now these classified ░░░░░░░░ have completely consumed the ░░░░░░░░ The president had some ░░░░░░░░ with the fact that ░░░░░░░░ has overtaken and its ░░░░░░░░ has a lot to ░░░░░░░░ over so much the ░░░░░░░░ cycle Today as it ░░░░░░░░ back at the White ░░░░░░░░ he really ignored questions ░░░░░░░░ Take a listen They ░░░░░░░░ shouting questions and publishing ░░░░░░░░ get power from this ░░░░░░░░ Midterm out the facts ░░░░░░░░ and being shut down ░░░░░░░░ may So the dates ░░░░░░░░ talking about This is ░░░░░░░░ of why this part ░░░░░░░░ the frustration It is ░░░░░░░░ election somewhere in there ░░░░░░░░ about this timeline as ░░░░░░░░ why it is these ░░░░░░░░ are unquestionable average us ░░░░░░░░ about democracy still Just ░░░░░░░░ week ago today that ░░░░░░░░ first things came out ░░░░░░░░ is now revealed by ░░░░░░░░ White House it is ░░░░░░░░ by media reports in ░░░░░░░░ White House And have ░░░░░░░░ personal documents at the ░░░░░░░░ Biden center to Moscow ░░░░░░░░ second But it wasn ░░░░░░░░ until later this week ░░░░░░░░ they start to learn ░░░░░░░░ about the fact that ░░░░░░░░ documents were also found ░░░░░░░░ presidents residence at the ░░░░░░░░ and Delaware Both at ░░░░░░░░ garage with the presence ░░░░░░░░ there s a lot ░░░░░░░░ carpet Then also another ░░░░░░░░ room next to garage ░░░░░░░░ then Merrick Garland when ░░░░░░░░ announced the special counsel ░░░░░░░░ in some of the ░░░░░░░░ about what they started ░░░░░░░░ get more information It ░░░░░░░░ on the summer 20th ░░░░░░░░ Biden s personal attorney ░░░░░░░░ searching the wilmington home ░░░░░░░░ last week The personal ░░░░░░░░ s found more documents ░░░░░░░░ it was canceled this ░░░░░░░░ that we found out ░░░░░░░░ it was more than ░░░░░░░░ had initially stated in ░░░░░░░░ the White House of ░░░░░░░░ is facing so many ░░░░░░░░ about the very slow ░░░░░░░░ drip drip of information ░░░░░░░░ the times their inability ░░░░░░░░ offer the full truth ░░░░░░░░ acknowledge that the document ░░░░░░░░ pen Biden center even ░░░░░░░░ they already knew that ░░░░░░░░ been some documents out ░░░░░░░░ the home So a ░░░░░░░░ of questions but the ░░░░░░░░ tierney s defending It ░░░░░░░░ are limited in what ░░░░░░░░ can share in the ░░░░░░░░ But certainly these questions ░░░░░░░░ not gonna go away ░░░░░░░░ the person ends these ░░░░░░░░ when they got a ░░░░░░░░ down interview And the ░░░░░░░░ attorney general Rod Rosenstein ░░░░░░░░ on harrison cooper on ░░░░░░░░ very point About whether ░░░░░░░░ be possible for President ░░░░░░░░ and some of this ░░░░░░░░ to actually have that ░░░░░░░░ down Listen to this ░░░░░░░░ depend upon the presence ░░░░░░░░ to agree at a ░░░░░░░░ interview I think that ░░░░░░░░ investigation where suddenly was ░░░░░░░░ possession of classified documents ░░░░░░░░ the key issues you ░░░░░░░░ to know Was where ░░░░░░░░ that was their understanding ░░░░░░░░ what had legal right ░░░░░░░░ possess those documents So ░░░░░░░░ think the president will ░░░░░░░░ That was certainly one ░░░░░░░░ at the special counsel ░░░░░░░░ to look into But ░░░░░░░░ on the shore this ░░░░░░░░ suspect they will find ░░░░░░░░ way Special counsel find ░░░░░░░░ way He has two ░░░░░░░░ inquire when President Biden ░░░░░░░░ was your awareness With ░░░░░░░░ president s all ready ░░░░░░░░ he was not aware ░░░░░░░░ there is no indication ░░░░░░░░ is no evidence unlike ░░░░░░░░ Trump investigation where Trump ░░░░░░░░ had evidence he was ░░░░░░░░ the boxes He said ░░░░░░░░ documents were mine He ░░░░░░░░ to turn him over ░░░░░░░░ service search ward This ░░░░░░░░ not that case Really ░░░░░░░░ questions hall arrive from ░░░░░░░░ timing But having been ░░░░░░░░ lower in the White ░░░░░░░░ Having been handled by ░░░░░░░░ documents and supervising over ░░░░░░░░ people as ambassador let ░░░░░░░░ work with classified documents ░░░░░░░░ day long Every day ░░░░░░░░ think when you look ░░░░░░░░ it step by step ░░░░░░░░ The decisions that were ░░░░░░░░ were reasonable It is ░░░░░░░░ that it is broken ░░░░░░░░ from a pr perspective ░░░░░░░░ been problems From a ░░░░░░░░ perspective there was a ░░░░░░░░ week gap From November ░░░░░░░░ when U S Attorney ░░░░░░░░ a Trump appointee was ░░░░░░░░ by Garland to look ░░░░░░░░ the search on this ░░░░░░░░ 28 Five weeks is ░░░░░░░░ a lot of time ░░░░░░░░ prior to that obviously ░░░░░░░░ m not justifying the ░░░░░░░░ of the documents from ░░░░░░░░ House promises We will ░░░░░░░░ to see how that ░░░░░░░░ But the criticism has ░░░░░░░░ focused on the substance ░░░░░░░░ Nobody said Biden knew ░░░░░░░░ criticism has been on ░░░░░░░░ legal decisions But when ░░░░░░░░ break them down decision ░░░░░░░░ decision how many events ░░░░░░░░ you have just five ░░░░░░░░ where they find the ░░░░░░░░ And they found some ░░░░░░░░ documents We are talking ░░░░░░░░ the show Your prosecutor ░░░░░░░░ a defense lawyer I ░░░░░░░░ for 30 years Virtually ░░░░░░░░ trial the prosecution in ░░░░░░░░ middle child said oh ░░░░░░░░ counted more documents Her ░░░░░░░░ from turning over to ░░░░░░░░ Ice And that is ░░░░░░░░ From a legal perspective ░░░░░░░░ did at the book ░░░░░░░░ may have been her ░░░░░░░░ of witness tampering overproduction ░░░░░░░░ I wonder about the ░░░░░░░░ who are doing it ░░░░░░░░ the book So to ░░░░░░░░ The people who are ░░░░░░░░ the search Some of ░░░░░░░░ are White House counsel ░░░░░░░░ office the idea of ░░░░░░░░ DoJ and not everybody ░░░░░░░░ the security clearance Some ░░░░░░░░ were closed in documents ░░░░░░░░ they didn t have ░░░░░░░░ requisite level of security ░░░░░░░░ to say oh what ░░░░░░░░ am seeing I can ░░░░░░░░ looking at That was ░░░░░░░░ whole problem the idea ░░░░░░░░ having a special master ░░░░░░░░ the Trump documents I ░░░░░░░░ t want to fix ░░░░░░░░ on the comparison of ░░░░░░░░ two I want to ░░░░░░░░ the Biden notion right ░░░░░░░░ The idea of who ░░░░░░░░ conducting the searches Does ░░░░░░░░ give you pause as ░░░░░░░░ investigator from some reason ░░░░░░░░ it does not Initially ░░░░░░░░ discovered these documents is ░░░░░░░░ by happenstance Nobody expected ░░░░░░░░ to be there They ░░░░░░░░ presumably force in the ░░░░░░░░ Biden center That gives ░░░░░░░░ cause to think hey ░░░░░░░░ need to go out ░░░░░░░░ maybe look at some ░░░░░░░░ places were documents also ░░░░░░░░ have inadvertently been ended ░░░░░░░░ At that point the ░░░░░░░░ bet but we re ░░░░░░░░ beyond that point now ░░░░░░░░ fundamental difference and all ░░░░░░░░ the other matter as ░░░░░░░░ here Just the comparison ░░░░░░░░ fundamental difference here You ░░░░░░░░ still say Trump it ░░░░░░░░ s okay The Trump ░░░░░░░░ has been antagonistic from ░░░░░░░░ one They refused to ░░░░░░░░ with from was a ░░░░░░░░ They rebuffed the Justice ░░░░░░░░ s request for documents ░░░░░░░░ was infamous meeting in ░░░░░░░░ a Lago that we ░░░░░░░░ look to the room ░░░░░░░░ not looking the boxes ░░░░░░░░ goes on and on ░░░░░░░░ inverse is true of ░░░░░░░░ Biden situation I think ░░░░░░░░ of that cooperation there ░░░░░░░░ actually an opportunity here ░░░░░░░░ do a complete search ░░░░░░░░ the scope of the ░░░░░░░░ counsel s authority with ░░░░░░░░ the president s lawyers ░░░░░░░░ FBI agents DoJ representatives ░░░░░░░░ is not an uncommon ░░░░░░░░ to do an investigation ░░░░░░░░ mishandling When the subject ░░░░░░░░ the investigations actually cooperating ░░░░░░░░ the investigators And that ░░░░░░░░ a lot Because oftentimes ░░░░░░░░ is the result of ░░░░░░░░ unintentional movement documents You ░░░░░░░░ take documents home by ░░░░░░░░ On that point Obviously ░░░░░░░░ s been reaction to ░░░░░░░░ Weather was done by ░░░░░░░░ book was investigation Sound ░░░░░░░░ to raise reason for ░░░░░░░░ conflict of interest Impetus ░░░░░░░░ special counsel There s ░░░░░░░░ lot being made about ░░░░░░░░ idea of not this ░░░░░░░░ the White House We ░░░░░░░░ own discussion about what ░░░░░░░░ at the White House ░░░░░░░░ Trump Administration sort of ░░░░░░░░ with tradition of keeping ░░░░░░░░ their questions about getting ░░░░░░░░ logs for Biden s ░░░░░░░░ in particular Even though ░░░░░░░░ s not really the ░░░░░░░░ of tradition to do ░░░░░░░░ It s a private ░░░░░░░░ But who would have ░░░░░░░░ to documents of this ░░░░░░░░ and looking at this ░░░░░░░░ do you make of ░░░░░░░░ requests from the visitor ░░░░░░░░ They don t seem ░░░░░░░░ exist by the way ░░░░░░░░ visitor logs were part ░░░░░░░░ my responsibility in the ░░░░░░░░ White House The decision ░░░░░░░░ release the visitor logs ░░░░░░░░ was my recommendation to ░░░░░░░░ president Which he accepted ░░░░░░░░ the name of transparency ░░░░░░░░ are no home visitor ░░░░░░░░ Many of the people ░░░░░░░░ ve been asking for ░░░░░░░░ including political adversaries Let ░░░░░░░░ admit it The political ░░░░░░░░ are having a field ░░░░░░░░ with this Why because ░░░░░░░░ s a difference between ░░░░░░░░ thing by the legal ░░░░░░░░ And doing thing by ░░░░░░░░ pr book They are ░░░░░░░░ the tension between the ░░░░░░░░ But I think in ░░░░░░░░ long term that the ░░░░░░░░ thing to do is ░░░░░░░░ get to legalities writes ░░░░░░░░ Because you don t ░░░░░░░░ to expose yourself Or ░░░░░░░░ people I don t ░░░░░░░░ the president has exposure ░░░░░░░░ don t want to ░░░░░░░░ anybody to legal liability ░░░░░░░░ then careful about that ░░░░░░░░ if it has not ░░░░░░░░ in some pr headaches ░░░░░░░░ say the least And ░░░░░░░░ calls for visitor logs ░░░░░░░░ just to create more ░░░░░░░░ a political furor The ░░░░░░░░ know there is no ░░░░░░░░ thing as a home ░░░░░░░░ log One place you ░░░░░░░░ have locks it in ░░░░░░░░ scif Cabinet secretaries heads ░░░░░░░░ agencies the vice president ░░░░░░░░ they are in that ░░░░░░░░ They have skips in ░░░░░░░░ residents So it s ░░░░░░░░ the purpose of reviewing ░░░░░░░░ secret documents 24 hours ░░░░░░░░ day It is in ░░░░░░░░ city in this day ░░░░░░░░ age You are required ░░░░░░░░ keep a log of ░░░░░░░░ goes in and out ░░░░░░░░ the scifs And who ░░░░░░░░ exposed to if no ░░░░░░░░ laws exist even from ░░░░░░░░ scif that they have ░░░░░░░░ in the residence or ░░░░░░░░ the security personnel Who ░░░░░░░░ stand up at capacity ░░░░░░░░ a temporary basis when ░░░░░░░░ vice president Then that ░░░░░░░░ you something about how ░░░░░░░░ documents were handled during ░░░░░░░░ time they may have ░░░░░░░░ up in that place ░░░░░░░░ the procedures follow where ░░░░░░░░ requisite level of attention ░░░░░░░░ paid to who s ░░░░░░░░ exposed and what documents ░░░░░░░░ questions are likely shouted ░░░░░░░░ the president of the ░░░░░░░░ States And we sure ░░░░░░░░ it s not really ░░░░░░░░ pr headache But maybe ░░░░░░░░ migraine these days We ░░░░░░░░ talk more about what ░░░░░░░░ actually means in a ░░░░░░░░ bit To say bye ░░░░░░░░ But his own party ░░░░░░░░ think