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MSNBC Panel Blames Trump, Republicans for Brazil Riot: ‘No Consequence’ Is ‘the Message that Is Being Sent’ (clip) (clip) (clip)
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Katy Tur Reports

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Peter Baker
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Employment: The New York Times
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Name: Katy Tur
Employment: NBC News
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Tur The parallels between ░░░░░░░░ and Donald Trump were ░░░░░░░░ many before this happened ░░░░░░░░ mean he was often ░░░░░░░░ to Trump Peter as ░░░░░░░░ know during his time ░░░░░░░░ office trying to use ░░░░░░░░ of the same playbook ░░░░░░░░ Covid some of the ░░░░░░░░ playbook about just denying ░░░░░░░░ responsibility and being extreme ░░░░░░░░ almost seemed inevitable given ░░░░░░░░ he came out and ░░░░░░░░ denying the election much ░░░░░░░░ the same way that ░░░░░░░░ Trump is Also striking ░░░░░░░░ Steve Bannon Mike Lindell ░░░░░░░░ Miller same names that ░░░░░░░░ a lot of it ░░░░░░░░ fueling what we saw ░░░░░░░░ there BAKER Yeah the ░░░░░░░░ are of course powerful ░░░░░░░░ was in Mar a ░░░░░░░░ at Mar a Lago ░░░░░░░░ March 2020 when Bolsonaro ░░░░░░░░ there with President Trump ░░░░░░░░ a dinner it was ░░░░░░░░ last time that the ░░░░░░░░ president got to his ░░░░░░░░ estate before Covid really ░░░░░░░░ in the United States ░░░░░░░░ was just sort of ░░░░░░░░ last hurrah and that ░░░░░░░░ hurrah was with Bolsonaro ░░░░░░░░ was back there in ░░░░░░░░ with my wife Susan ░░░░░░░░ we were doing research ░░░░░░░░ the book The Divider ░░░░░░░░ in former President Trump ░░░░░░░░ office there at Mar ░░░░░░░░ Lago was a gift ░░░░░░░░ President Bolsonaro as a ░░░░░░░░ of fact it was ░░░░░░░░ portrait of President Trump ░░░░░░░░ out of bullet casings ░░░░░░░░ President Bolsonaro had given ░░░░░░░░ That was something that ░░░░░░░░ President Trump had on ░░░░░░░░ in his office there ░░░░░░░░ 2021 when we went ░░░░░░░░ visit him So I ░░░░░░░░ that gives you some ░░░░░░░░ of just who these ░░░░░░░░ are in that sense ░░░░░░░░ you re right Bolsonaro ░░░░░░░░ been called repeatedly the ░░░░░░░░ of Latin America and ░░░░░░░░ think that is you ░░░░░░░░ one of the worries ░░░░░░░░ a lot of people ░░░░░░░░ the United States have ░░░░░░░░ about what happened on ░░░░░░░░ 6th what happened in ░░░░░░░░ of this effort to ░░░░░░░░ the American election because ░░░░░░░░ then encourages actions around ░░░░░░░░ world in countries with ░░░░░░░░ traditions that aren t ░░░░░░░░ as strong as ours ░░░░░░░░ they look to see ░░░░░░░░ happens here it looks ░░░░░░░░ something that could be ░░░░░░░░ plausible route forward in ░░░░░░░░ own country and I ░░░░░░░░ that s you know ░░░░░░░░ concern people had for ░░░░░░░░ the four years that ░░░░░░░░ was in office that ░░░░░░░░ democratic norms that he ░░░░░░░░ so willing to bust ░░░░░░░░ sideline to get around ░░░░░░░░ then encourage you know ░░░░░░░░ minded people around the ░░░░░░░░ to do the same ░░░░░░░░ I think that that ░░░░░░░░ exactly what seemed to ░░░░░░░░ happened here Tur And ░░░░░░░░ wonder how much consequence ░░░░░░░░ they re seeing from ░░░░░░░░ we have going on ░░░░░░░░ here Yes there are ░░░░░░░░ for those who stormed ░░░░░░░░ Capitol on January 6th ░░░░░░░░ the lawmakers who parroted ░░░░░░░░ lies the lawmakers who ░░░░░░░░ refuse to accept the ░░░░░░░░ of the 2020 election ░░░░░░░░ lot of them are ░░░░░░░░ in power And what ░░░░░░░░ saw over the weekend ░░░░░░░░ last week Peter was ░░░░░░░░ people who were stopping ░░░░░░░░ McCarthy from becoming Speaker ░░░░░░░░ many of them were ░░░░░░░░ deniers themselves the mega ░░░░░░░░ crowd as they colloquially ░░░░░░░░ become to be known ░░░░░░░░ So I guess the ░░░░░░░░ from that how does ░░░░░░░░ sound around the world ░░░░░░░░ Well I think that ░░░░░░░░ exactly right That s ░░░░░░░░ message that is being ░░░░░░░░ and the message being ░░░░░░░░ from Mar a Lago ░░░░░░░░ the way where former ░░░░░░░░ Trump had repeatedly characterized ░░░░░░░░ people who stormed the ░░░░░░░░ on January 6th 2021 ░░░░░░░░ patriots as protesters as ░░░░░░░░ in effect He s ░░░░░░░░ to pardon them if ░░░░░░░░ takes office again He ░░░░░░░░ encouraged fundraising for organizations ░░░░░░░░ them as if they ░░░░░░░░ political prisoners characterizing them ░░░░░░░░ if they were simply ░░░░░░░░ who were rising up ░░░░░░░░ you know tyranny instead ░░░░░░░░ the other way around ░░░░░░░░ of course that encourages ░░░░░░░░ kind of thinking elsewhere ░░░░░░░░ well If that can ░░░░░░░░ in the United States ░░░░░░░░ there s no consequence ░░░░░░░░ the people at the ░░░░░░░░ who make these kind ░░░░░░░░ you know encourage this ░░░░░░░░ of you know deceptions ░░░░░░░░ what happened during an ░░░░░░░░ who encourage the efforts ░░░░░░░░ try to overturn the ░░░░░░░░ election then it seems ░░░░░░░░ plausible or credible to ░░░░░░░░ that elsewhere If we ░░░░░░░░ do it here why ░░░░░░░░ t it happen elsewhere ░░░░░░░░ You know I haven ░░░░░░░░ checked my e mail ░░░░░░░░ the last couple of ░░░░░░░░ but last I checked ░░░░░░░░ McCarthy and Mitch McConnell ░░░░░░░░ t said anything about ░░░░░░░░ happened yesterday in Brazil ░░░░░░░░ word from them in ░░░░░░░░ past couple of minutes ░░░░░░░░ that you ve seen ░░░░░░░░ what do we make ░░░░░░░░ them their silence on ░░░░░░░░ BAKER No I haven ░░░░░░░░ seen that either and ░░░░░░░░ think it s an ░░░░░░░░ parallel that they just ░░░░░░░░ soon not choose to ░░░░░░░░ Obviously Mitch McConnell was ░░░░░░░░ more willing to denounce ░░░░░░░░ Trump both in office ░░░░░░░░ after office for his ░░░░░░░░ in trying to overturn ░░░░░░░░ election and encouraging the ░░░░░░░░ on January 6th Kevin ░░░░░░░░ of course on the ░░░░░░░░ hand quickly switched gears ░░░░░░░░ went to Mar a ░░░░░░░░ within days really of ░░░░░░░░ 6th to you know ░░░░░░░░ and in effect re ░░░░░░░░ former President Trump at ░░░░░░░░ point So the two ░░░░░░░░ them don t have ░░░░░░░░ the same position on ░░░░░░░░ But broadly speaking it ░░░░░░░░ a parallel neither one ░░░░░░░░ to highlight They would ░░░░░░░░ rather move forward and ░░░░░░░░ about what they re ░░░░░░░░ to do in terms ░░░░░░░░ the Biden Administration and ░░░░░░░░ newfound power that the ░░░░░░░░ have however tenuously in ░░░░░░░░ House and it is ░░░░░░░░ kind of scene that ░░░░░░░░ back bad memories and ░░░░░░░░ you know setbacks Tur ░░░░░░░░ about lead by example.”
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