RUSH TRANSCRIPT David recent ░░░░░░░░ winter storm that swept ░░░░░░░░ nation put emphasis on ░░░░░░░░ nation s energy infrastructure ░░░░░░░░ opinion piece in Wall ░░░░░░░░ Journal warning off herd ░░░░░░░░ often heart climate climb ░░░░░░░░ may be doing more ░░░░░░░░ than good joining me ░░░░░░░░ Steve Koonin Author of ░░░░░░░░ unsettled Good to see ░░░░░░░░ again Is a net ░░░░░░░░ electric grid possible by ░░░░░░░░ Absolutely not You know ░░░░░░░░ over the last 20 ░░░░░░░░ who has look at ░░░░░░░░ problem with any technical ░░░░░░░░ would say it is ░░░░░░░░ and many of us ░░░░░░░░ understand the problem said ░░░░░░░░ 10 or 15 years ░░░░░░░░ David by the way ░░░░░░░░ are saying it to ░░░░░░░░ Democrat administration you work ░░░░░░░░ the Obama Administration Absolutely ░░░░░░░░ know we could evenly ░░░░░░░░ there but it will ░░░░░░░░ at least until the ░░░░░░░░ of the century even ░░░░░░░░ Meanwhile We re dismantling ░░░░░░░░ fossil fuel infrastructure or ░░░░░░░░ as if it would ░░░░░░░░ possible is that dangerous ░░░░░░░░ it is We re ░░░░░░░░ collision of an ill ░░░░░░░░ and ill considered rush ░░░░░░░░ decarbonize come up against ░░░░░░░░ and economic realities David ░░░░░░░░ know as you know ░░░░░░░░ I m sure you ░░░░░░░░ that push back while ░░░░░░░░ for Obama Administration Peal ░░░░░░░░ scare by swear by ░░░░░░░░ deadline said if we ░░░░░░░░ don t prepare to ░░░░░░░░ it done by 2050 ░░░░░░░░ ll not be here ░░░░░░░░ is nonsense there is ░░░░░░░░ crisis if there is ░░░░░░░░ problem it much longer ░░░░░░░░ we have the time ░░░░░░░░ develop the technology and ░░░░░░░░ deploy it and propagate ░░░░░░░░ to the rest of ░░░░░░░░ world the urgency is ░░░░░░░░ fiction And you know ░░░░░░░░ blame first of all ░░░░░░░░ and engineers are in ░░░░░░░░ speaking up and they ░░░░░░░░ a bunch of lawyers ░░░░░░░░ never ever had to ░░░░░░░░ an energy system I ░░░░░░░░ blame the politician David ░░░░░░░░ about the engineer There ░░░░░░░░ to be some that ░░░░░░░░ speak up Absolutely they ░░░░░░░░ But you know like ░░░░░░░░ engineers the utility everyone ░░░░░░░░ afraid to speak up ░░░░░░░░ they speak up they ░░░░░░░░ canceled they are out ░░░░░░░░ a job David wow ░░░░░░░░ think it will crash ░░░░░░░░ people will then start ░░░░░░░░ understand David well and ░░░░░░░░ know very often it ░░░░░░░░ when it is too ░░░░░░░░ on if not too ░░░░░░░░ at least late for ░░░░░░░░ who die as a ░░░░░░░░ of this we should ░░░░░░░░ in mind according to ░░░░░░░░ analysts 9 times as ░░░░░░░░ people die from cold ░░░░░░░░ heat The lives that ░░░░░░░░ saw lost in this ░░░░░░░░ storm last week would ░░░░░░░░ mull flied many times ░░░░░░░░ our infrastructure is in ░░░░░░░░ danger in years to ░░░░░░░░ right Absolutely You know ░░░░░░░░ die without electricity As ░░░░░░░░ saw in New York ░░░░░░░░ during superstorm sandy and ░░░░░░░░ massive outages it is ░░░░░░░░ reliability and affordability first ░░░░░░░░ worrythen you worry about ░░░░░░░░ David other thing that ░░░░░░░░ not been considered which ░░░░░░░░ rahis extraordinary it talked ░░░░░░░░ a lot they are ░░░░░░░░ about turning so much ░░░░░░░░ what we use over ░░░░░░░░ lookty electricity whether cars ░░░░░░░░ ovens and now heating ░░░░░░░░ base board heating they ░░░░░░░░ it to be electric ░░░░░░░░ than natural gas or ░░░░░░░░ that will put a ░░░░░░░░ strain on our electric ░░░░░░░░ Which will be not ░░░░░░░░ because we pull off ░░░░░░░░ many fossil fuel parts ░░░░░░░░ what make the grid ░░░░░░░░ Yeah Right absolutely if ░░░░░░░░ will electrify transportation and ░░░░░░░░ in buildings you have ░░░░░░░░ double the distribution infrastructure ░░░░░░░░ of the cables underground ░░░░░░░░ Manhattan for example that ░░░░░░░░ be very disrubtive disruptive ░░░░░░░░ expensive and take decades ░░░░░░░░ complete never mind where ░░░░░░░░ will get the copper ░░░░░░░░ we do not have ░░░░░░░░ capability to produce enough ░░░░░░░░ to make it happen ░░░░░░░░ is nuts What would ░░░░░░░░ the minds of the ░░░░░░░░ I hate to say ░░░░░░░░ you about is it ░░░░░░░░ dead bodies I sadly ░░░░░░░░ think that is what ░░░░░░░░ will take Europe is ░░░░░░░░ ahead of us down ░░░░░░░░ path to catastrophe we ░░░░░░░░ see Europeans then pullback ░░░░░░░░ I think there will ░░░░░░░░ a congressional commission truth ░░░░░░░░ reconciliation who missed up ░░░░░░░░ to see that happen ░░░░░░░░ I think that is ░░░░░░░░ way we ll rectify ░░░░░░░░ All there in your ░░░░░░░░ unsettled Steve Koonin thank ░░░░░░░░ so much Great David ░░░░░░░░ in inflation with no ░░░░░░░░ to hard working mitt ░░░░░░░░ class is this a ░░░░░░░░ of President Biden s ░░░░░░░░ promises to the middle ░░░░░░░░