Rep. Jim Clyburn on Gun Reform: We Have To Do What’s Necessary ‘To Keep These Guns Out of the Hands of People Who Should Not Have Them’

BRENNAN But right now ░░░░░░░░ want to speak to ░░░░░░░░ Majority Whip Democratic Congressman ░░░░░░░░ Clyburn who joins us ░░░░░░░░ Santee South Carolina this ░░░░░░░░ Congressman it s good ░░░░░░░░ have you on the ░░░░░░░░ I want to start ░░░░░░░░ what has happened in ░░░░░░░░ past two weeks We ░░░░░░░░ had these three mass ░░░░░░░░ Back in June you ░░░░░░░░ to push through this ░░░░░░░░ investment in shoring up ░░░░░░░░ flag laws and background ░░░░░░░░ 13 billion expansion And ░░░░░░░░ in Virginia both of ░░░░░░░░ gun buyers legally purchased ░░░░░░░░ weapons allegedly so did ░░░░░░░░ one in Colorado What ░░░░░░░░ that tell you about ░░░░░░░░ efficacy of the federal ░░░░░░░░ Clyburn Well thank you ░░░░░░░░ much for having me ░░░░░░░░ tells me all I ░░░░░░░░ to know And that ░░░░░░░░ just because it s ░░░░░░░░ does not make it ░░░░░░░░ right thing I tell ░░░░░░░░ all the time the ░░░░░░░░ of slavery was legal ░░░░░░░░ it was not right ░░░░░░░░ because they purchased these ░░░░░░░░ legally does not mean ░░░░░░░░ s what the law ░░░░░░░░ to be We need ░░░░░░░░ change these laws Unfortunately ░░░░░░░░ m going to be ░░░░░░░░ in my district on ░░░░░░░░ speaking at the funeral ░░░░░░░░ of one of those ░░░░░░░░ football players from the ░░░░░░░░ of Virginia who died ░░░░░░░░ the hands of the ░░░░░░░░ that was from all ░░░░░░░░ legally purchased That s ░░░░░░░░ the problem Chesapeake Virginia ░░░░░░░░ gun was purchased legally ░░░░░░░░ morning of the event ░░░░░░░░ have to visit these ░░░░░░░░ and do what s ░░░░░░░░ to keep these guns ░░░░░░░░ of the hands of ░░░░░░░░ who should not have ░░░░░░░░ And that is what ░░░░░░░░ need to do in ░░░░░░░░ lame duck session and ░░░░░░░░ a bipartisan way Let ░░░░░░░░ protect the American people ░░░░░░░░ demented people and make ░░░░░░░░ that we put some ░░░░░░░░ and security in peoples ░░░░░░░░ they re shopping when ░░░░░░░░ re sitting in churches ░░░░░░░░ Well yeah Well what ░░░░░░░░ that lame duck session ░░░░░░░░ Democrats have control for ░░░░░░░░ few more weeks President ░░░░░░░░ came out and said ░░░░░░░░ wants to institute an ░░░░░░░░ weapons ban An assault ░░░░░░░░ an AR 15 style ░░░░░░░░ used in Colorado but ░░░░░░░░ in those two Virginia ░░░░░░░░ So is the problem ░░░░░░░░ type of weapon And ░░░░░░░░ that is the solution ░░░░░░░░ re putting forward how ░░░░░░░░ you get 60 votes ░░░░░░░░ the Senate Clyburn Well ░░░░░░░░ don t know how ░░░░░░░░ get 60 votes in ░░░░░░░░ Senate And that s ░░░░░░░░ I always take issue ░░░░░░░░ the fact we do ░░░░░░░░ control the Senate It ░░░░░░░░ 50 50 in the ░░░░░░░░ and that is a ░░░░░░░░ for us We need ░░░░░░░░ sit down in a ░░░░░░░░ way and say Look ░░░░░░░░ can we do to ░░░░░░░░ the public Nobody wants ░░░░░░░░ take anybody s guns ░░░░░░░░ Your Second Amendment is ░░░░░░░░ to protect everybody But ░░░░░░░░ is the First Amendment ░░░░░░░░ it s not unfettered ░░░░░░░░ s very clear BRENNAN ░░░░░░░░ so what are you ░░░░░░░░ to do in the ░░░░░░░░ duck You just said ░░░░░░░░ the lame duck you ░░░░░░░░ to take action What ░░░░░░░░ that mean What are ░░░░░░░░ going to do Clyburn ░░░░░░░░ we ve already passed ░░░░░░░░ bills in the House ░░░░░░░░ re trying to get ░░░░░░░░ Senate to act We ░░░░░░░░ done this on the ░░░░░░░░ side And so that ░░░░░░░░ the problem Democrats control ░░░░░░░░ House BRENNAN Right Clyburn ░░░░░░░░ we passed the bill ░░░░░░░░ do not control the ░░░░░░░░ And that s where ░░░░░░░░ filibuster is causing us ░░░░░░░░ BRENNAN Right And in ░░░░░░░░ new Congress after January ░░░░░░░░ the prospect of any ░░░░░░░░ of gun reform dead ░░░░░░░░ arrival or can you ░░░░░░░░ off some votes from ░░░░░░░░ McCarthy s caucus here ░░░░░░░░ help move something when ░░░░░░░░ are in the minority ░░░░░░░░ Well you know if ░░░░░░░░ look at the results ░░░░░░░░ the election and you ░░░░░░░░ to California you go ░░░░░░░░ New York even in ░░░░░░░░ districts in North Carolina ░░░░░░░░ we picked up seats ░░░░░░░░ do have a more ░░░░░░░░ electorate coming in and ░░░░░░░░ need to appeal to ░░░░░░░░ sense of fundamental fairness ░░░░░░░░ what is right I ░░░░░░░░ no idea whether or ░░░░░░░░ they will buck what ░░░░░░░░ to be controlling the ░░░░░░░░ but we re going ░░░░░░░░ give it a shot ░░░░░░░░ So White House adviser ░░░░░░░░ Dunn was on this ░░░░░░░░ a few weeks ago ░░░░░░░░ she said in the ░░░░░░░░ few weeks while Democrats ░░░░░░░░ the majority priority number ░░░░░░░░ is just keeping the ░░░░░░░░ funded Exactly what is ░░░░░░░░ top priority I mean ░░░░░░░░ can Democrats get done ░░░░░░░░ Republicans take control Clyburn ░░░░░░░░ I would agree with ░░░░░░░░ Dunn It s always ░░░░░░░░ top priority keeping the ░░░░░░░░ funded and keeping it ░░░░░░░░ BRENNAN That seems the ░░░░░░░░ minimum Clyburn At a ░░░░░░░░ absolutely but we need ░░░░░░░░ go further than that ░░░░░░░░ need to look at ░░░░░░░░ John R Lewis Voting ░░░░░░░░ Act I m not ░░░░░░░░ to get off of ░░░░░░░░ I do believe that ░░░░░░░░ need to do something ░░░░░░░░ the Electoral Count Reform ░░░░░░░░ These two things are ░░░░░░░░ to our democracy and ░░░░░░░░ need to keep them ░░░░░░░░ the forefront Yes keep ░░░░░░░░ government open but let ░░░░░░░░ also keep fundamental rights ░░░░░░░░ And that to me ░░░░░░░░ be one and two ░░░░░░░░ these gun safety laws ░░░░░░░░ be closely thereafter BRENNAN ░░░░░░░░ are holding leadership elections ░░░░░░░░ the coming week You ░░░░░░░░ already in leadership I ░░░░░░░░ you will be standing ░░░░░░░░ election to a different ░░░░░░░░ But if it is ░░░░░░░░ for a new generation ░░░░░░░░ Speaker Pelosi had said ░░░░░░░░ do you think it ░░░░░░░░ necessary for you to ░░░░░░░░ in power Do you ░░░░░░░░ the next generation needs ░░░░░░░░ to guide them Clyburn ░░░░░░░░ I have always said ░░░░░░░░ is a healthy respect ░░░░░░░░ s Biblical with me ░░░░░░░░ need to have a ░░░░░░░░ blend of strength and ░░░░░░░░ And look at our ░░░░░░░░ The South is left ░░░░░░░░ of it And what ░░░░░░░░ m doing is trying ░░░░░░░░ make sure that we ░░░░░░░░ not tilt too far ░░░░░░░░ the East or too ░░░░░░░░ to the West but ░░░░░░░░ what we have here ░░░░░░░░ s no other Southerner ░░░░░░░░ the leadership ranks and ░░░░░░░░ need the South We ░░░░░░░░ these historically black colleges ░░░░░░░░ universities But for Georgia ░░░░░░░░ would the Senate be ░░░░░░░░ And the last time ░░░░░░░░ checked Georgia is south ░░░░░░░░ South Carolina BRENNAN Okay ░░░░░░░░ right Well thank you ░░░░░░░░ much Mr Whip for ░░░░░░░░ us today.”