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Norm Eisen Appears on CNN’s ‘Don Lemon Tonight’ to Discuss Jan. 6 Committee
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Norman Eisen / Norm Eisen

Name: Norman Eisen / Norm Eisen

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RUSH TRANSCRIPT So now ░░░░░░░░ the January 6th committee ░░░░░░░░ out takes of his ░░░░░░░░ to supporters the day ░░░░░░░░ the insurrection and we ░░░░░░░░ to see them tomorrow ░░░░░░░░ Here to discuss norm ░░░░░░░░ in the first impeachment ░░░░░░░░ Happy to have both ░░░░░░░░ you Thank you for ░░░░░░░░ us As I m ░░░░░░░░ to start with you ░░░░░░░░ do you think of ░░░░░░░░ January 6th committee having ░░░░░░░░ Trump out takes a ░░░░░░░░ after the insurrection They ░░░░░░░░ expected to show them ░░░░░░░░ Don this committee has ░░░░░░░░ so good Nick and ░░░░░░░░ are both trial lawyers ░░░░░░░░ you ve got to ░░░░░░░░ surprise the jury give ░░░░░░░░ fresh material keep them ░░░░░░░░ the toes and persuade ░░░░░░░░ hit them with the ░░░░░░░░ These out takes will ░░░░░░░░ the talk of the ░░░░░░░░ in each of the ░░░░░░░░ hours they had surprises ░░░░░░░░ sizzled but also substance ░░░░░░░░ think it will be ░░░░░░░░ block buster You think ░░░░░░░░ will be the talk ░░░░░░░░ the country tomorrow You ░░░░░░░░ it will be that ░░░░░░░░ Don do you on ░░░░░░░░ break we talked about ░░░░░░░░ we like to watch ░░░░░░░░ TV At the end ░░░░░░░░ movies they have the ░░░░░░░░ takes in comedies and ░░░░░░░░ stick around and watch ░░░░░░░░ do After the credits ░░░░░░░░ the Easter egg that ░░░░░░░░ at the end This ░░░░░░░░ going to be like ░░░░░░░░ People will be riveted ░░░░░░░░ it but this is ░░░░░░░░ sizzle and there will ░░░░░░░░ substance too We re ░░░░░░░░ going to see Nick ░░░░░░░░ attempting to call the ░░░░░░░░ patriots people familiar with ░░░░░░░░ plans of the committee ░░░░░░░░ went to lengths to ░░░░░░░░ accuse them of a ░░░░░░░░ This says a lot ░░░░░░░░ his state of mind ░░░░░░░░ t it It says ░░░░░░░░ lot what he was ░░░░░░░░ to do He viewed ░░░░░░░░ people as patriots helping ░░░░░░░░ to stay in office ░░░░░░░░ was a preconceived plan ░░░░░░░░ get those people to ░░░░░░░░ to get the Oath ░░░░░░░░ to get the Proud ░░░░░░░░ to go in and ░░░░░░░░ the dirty work the ░░░░░░░░ work and get supporters ░░░░░░░░ be the backup and ░░░░░░░░ it so that count ░░░░░░░░ Electoral College came to ░░░░░░░░ halt That s what ░░░░░░░░ was about and in ░░░░░░░░ view they were the ░░░░░░░░ They viewed themselves as ░░░░░░░░ and it just shows ░░░░░░░░ he is part of ░░░░░░░░ conspiracy Uh huh So ░░░░░░░░ said to him to ░░░░░░░░ Schiff who was on ░░░░░░░░ he said you ll ░░░░░░░░ see footage you haven ░░░░░░░░ seen before what the ░░░░░░░░ was willing to say ░░░░░░░░ what he was not ░░░░░░░░ to say It s ░░░░░░░░ of course a very ░░░░░░░░ also a very significant ░░░░░░░░ long it took him ░░░░░░░░ say anything that is ░░░░░░░░ to do with just ░░░░░░░░ fuel to the fire ░░░░░░░░ he goes on and ░░░░░░░░ said I said which ░░░░░░░░ thought was important to ░░░░░░░░ response I said is ░░░░░░░░ off skriftcript Is he ░░░░░░░░ Are people coaching him ░░░░░░░░ producing it Can you ░░░░░░░░ us He said you ░░░░░░░░ there are people urging ░░░░░░░░ to say things to ░░░░░░░░ the right thing but ░░░░░░░░ couldn t prevail upon ░░░░░░░░ to do that So ░░░░░░░░ s going to be ░░░░░░░░ would imagine that it ░░░░░░░░ be something like you ░░░░░░░░ Mr President you need ░░░░░░░░ say such and such ░░░░░░░░ such and perhaps he ░░░░░░░░ say can we say ░░░░░░░░ a different way or ░░░░░░░░ have you Will that ░░░░░░░░ a big difference Definitely ░░░░░░░░ Why so Because it ░░░░░░░░ not just the words ░░░░░░░░ he speaks the words ░░░░░░░░ he doesn t speak ░░░░░░░░ re getting a view ░░░░░░░░ his mind through his ░░░░░░░░ through his facial expressions ░░░░░░░░ his gestures The toughest ░░░░░░░░ to prove both of ░░░░░░░░ faced it in impeachments ░░░░░░░░ corrupt intent Here these ░░░░░░░░ takes and the rest ░░░░░░░░ the evidence really the ░░░░░░░░ three hearings have focused ░░░░░░░░ Trump s state of ░░░░░░░░ They ve built up ░░░░░░░░ the actions they need ░░░░░░░░ federal and state crimes ░░░░░░░░ now they re going ░░░░░░░░ the tough question and ░░░░░░░░ tapes will help Go ░░░░░░░░ It s like being ░░░░░░░░ cross examineing a defendant ░░░░░░░░ ll take different stands ░░░░░░░░ be squirming and insisting ░░░░░░░░ saying certain things like ░░░░░░░░ re patriots and people ░░░░░░░░ he can t say ░░░░░░░░ and then he ll ░░░░░░░░ other things in between ░░░░░░░░ can conjecture all we ░░░░░░░░ about it I think ░░░░░░░░ the end of the ░░░░░░░░ it s going to ░░░░░░░░ his demeanor the wait ░░░░░░░░ says it and the ░░░░░░░░ he moves from one ░░░░░░░░ the other when people ░░░░░░░░ him to do something ░░░░░░░░ I think that is ░░░░░░░░ to be extremely telling ░░░░░░░░ s going to be ░░░░░░░░ putting a major criminal ░░░░░░░░ the witness stand and ░░░░░░░░ examining him with his ░░░░░░░░ Is this a star ░░░░░░░░ The star witness was ░░░░░░░░ Hutchinson Okay All right ░░░░░░░░ was the new John ░░░░░░░░ Let me ask you ░░░░░░░░ norm you worked regular ░░░░░░░░ dedly ded White House ░░░░░░░░ Service on records handling ░░░░░░░░ Are you suspicious about ░░░░░░░░ text messages that have ░░░░░░░░ missing and turned over ░░░░░░░░ that s it just ░░░░░░░░ Yeah suspicious would under ░░░░░░░░ the case don If ░░░░░░░░ was only an isolated ░░░░░░░░ of the Secret Service ░░░░░░░░ preserving documents that would ░░░░░░░░ one thing There have ░░░░░░░░ very serious allegations of ░░░░░░░░ witness intimidation scheme as ░░░░░░░░ of these proceedings The ░░░░░░░░ cop bad cop that ░░░░░░░░ saw Trump do with ░░░░░░░░ Cohen for example right ░░░░░░░░ committee played these grooming ░░░░░░░░ before the good cop ░░░░░░░░ Cassidy Hutchinson s testimony ░░░░░░░░ then afterwards Trump comes ░░░░░░░░ on her like a ░░░░░░░░ of bricks and who ░░░░░░░░ him A whisper campaign ░░░░░░░░ former Secret Service agents ░░░░░░░░ are supposed to be ░░░░░░░░ with her and now ░░░░░░░░ find those same Secret ░░░░░░░░ agents were supposed to ░░░░░░░░ these texts and may ░░░░░░░░ have done so apparently ░░░░░░░░ t do so I ░░░░░░░░ it stinks You point ░░░░░░░░ the motto of the ░░░░░░░░ Service ambassador eisen You ░░░░░░░░ not you You say ░░░░░░░░ worthy of trust and ░░░░░░░░ and say that s ░░░░░░░░ a big question mark ░░░░░░░░ think that they re ░░░░░░░░ to have to put ░░░░░░░░ question mark on their ░░░░░░░░ don All these this ░░░░░░░░ so many shifting explanations ░░░░░░░░ about all of this ░░░░░░░░ happened The committee They ░░░░░░░░ to talk to all ░░░░░░░░ these agents do you ░░░░░░░░ Yeah the big issue ░░░░░░░░ were they trying to ░░░░░░░░ Vice President Pence out ░░░░░░░░ the Congress Were they ░░░░░░░░ to whisk him away ░░░░░░░░ he couldn t go ░░░░░░░░ and complete the vote ░░░░░░░░ mean that is the ░░░░░░░░ issue here in terms ░░░░░░░░ the January 6th committee ░░░░░░░░ is if they can ░░░░░░░░ that in fact Trump ░░░░░░░░ gotten the Secret Service ░░░░░░░░ there to try to ░░░░░░░░ Pence out so that ░░░░░░░░ could stop that vote ░░░░░░░░ was the whole point ░░░░░░░░ the violence in the ░░░░░░░░ instance that would be ░░░░░░░░ And so that is ░░░░░░░░ I think is the ░░░░░░░░ motive behind destroying these ░░░░░░░░ messages Maybe you just ░░░░░░░░ it but I want ░░░░░░░░ ask you what is ░░░░░░░░ worst thing that they ░░░░░░░░ find if they find ░░░░░░░░ text messages What would ░░░░░░░░ the worst thing to ░░░░░░░░ Who would be who ░░░░░░░░ were communicateing with Is ░░░░░░░░ a certain person More ░░░░░░░░ of Trump s intent ░░░░░░░░ what he said what ░░░░░░░░ did because what this ░░░░░░░░ all about What I ░░░░░░░░ asking would it be ░░░░░░░░ between agents or with ░░░░░░░░ at the White House ░░░░░░░░ would be a text ░░░░░░░░ potus just tried to ░░░░░░░░ the wheel They may ░░░░░░░░ failed to preserve their ░░░░░░░░ as being alleged now ░░░░░░░░ s a very big ░░░░░░░░ The worst thing is ░░░░░░░░ there was a text ░░░░░░░░ said get that guy ░░░░░░░░ of there as quickly ░░░░░░░░ possible and send him ░░░░░░░░ to Alaska I mean ░░░░░░░░ is the kind of ░░░░░░░░ evidence that would be ░░░░░░░░ those texts that would ░░░░░░░░ nail We don t ░░░░░░░░ that We don t ░░░░░░░░ that Listen do you ░░░░░░░░ think look I don ░░░░░░░░ know In a million ░░░░░░░░ that the Secret Service ░░░░░░░░ do something that Well ░░░░░░░░ do have an individual ░░░░░░░░ there that was brought ░░░░░░░░ the White House into ░░░░░░░░ political position this Tony ░░░░░░░░ is very close to ░░░░░░░░ Trump That s my ░░░░░░░░ If Tony is texting ░░░░░░░░ we don t know ░░░░░░░░ s what I was ░░░░░░░░ what is the worst ░░░░░░░░ of the worst you ░░░░░░░░ Two of us have ░░░░░░░░ a very good living ░░░░░░░░ decades out of the ░░░░░░░░ texts emails DMs and ░░░░░░░░ things notes that people ░░░░░░░░ down It s incredible ░░░░░░░░ people write down in ░░░░░░░░ moment don Yeah But ░░░░░░░░ may never know because ░░░░░░░░ can t get the ░░░░░░░░ Well We may never ░░░░░░░░ the texts I m ░░░░░░░░ so sure Why not ░░░░░░░░ lot of these things ░░░░░░░░ to different parts of ░░░░░░░░ comeputer there are ways ░░░░░░░░ to pull this stuff ░░░░░░░░ They didn t have ░░░░░░░░ to do that the ░░░░░░░░ couple days This would ░░░░░░░░ taking the hard drives ░░░░░░░░ to see if these ░░░░░░░░ are still in exist ░░░░░░░░ whether or not they ░░░░░░░░ get anything off of ░░░░░░░░ The whole commuter system ░░░░░░░░ they re using I ░░░░░░░░ a Merrick Garland said ░░░░░░░░ is above the law ░░░░░░░░ it that way meaning ░░░░░░░░ former president isn t ░░░░░░░░ the law I think ░░░░░░░░ s true If you ░░░░░░░░ the former president make ░░░░░░░░ you convict him He ░░░░░░░░ that when asked about ░░░░░░░░ Trump he said nobody ░░░░░░░░ above the law You ░░░░░░░░ t know that at ░░░░░░░░ point Look I think ░░░░░░░░ Garland is in a ░░░░░░░░ spot in the sense ░░░░░░░░ has a conflict here ░░░░░░░░ s being asked or ░░░░░░░░ be asked to judge ░░░░░░░░ or not to indict ░░░░░░░░ Trump when in fact ░░░░░░░░ is beholdening to Biden ░░░░░░░░ will be the chief ░░░░░░░░ and so there is ░░░░░░░░ direct conflict here and ░░░░░░░░ he s either got ░░░░░░░░ get a real special ░░░░░░░░ to make that decision ░░░░░░░░ totally independent or decline ░░░░░░░░ Georgia which may turn ░░░░░░░░ to be the stronger ░░░░░░░░ D a willis in ░░░░░░░░ is not just saying ░░░░░░░░ on his above the ░░░░░░░░ she s proving it ░░░░░░░░ with target letters that ░░░░░░░░ to be pointing at ░░░░░░░░ former president so we ░░░░░░░░ looking to Georgia We ░░░░░░░░ looking south for the ░░░░░░░░ after what I think ░░░░░░░░ be a blockbuster hearing ░░░░░░░░ night All right Thank ░░░░░░░░ gentlemen. That.
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