RUSH TRANSCRIPT We ve ░░░░░░░░ a great group to ░░░░░░░░ all of this Walter ░░░░░░░░ and asha rengapa Where ░░░░░░░░ begin with everything that ░░░░░░░░ saw yesterday beginning with ░░░░░░░░ meeting that star wars ░░░░░░░░ style meeting as you ░░░░░░░░ described it on December ░░░░░░░░ Yeah so the star ░░░░░░░░ style meeting provides an ░░░░░░░░ Link There s two ░░░░░░░░ of evidence that Congress ░░░░░░░░ looking at and I ░░░░░░░░ the Justice Department is ░░░░░░░░ at One is the ░░░░░░░░ we ve all seen ░░░░░░░░ our eyes the insurrectionists ░░░░░░░░ the Capitol with violent ░░░░░░░░ resulting in death The ░░░░░░░░ bucket of evidence is ░░░░░░░░ House officials including Donald ░░░░░░░░ what was their involvement ░░░░░░░░ relationship to what happened ░░░░░░░░ What the hearing yesterday ░░░░░░░░ I think so well ░░░░░░░░ with this December 18th ░░░░░░░░ is draw a Link ░░░░░░░░ the two that you ░░░░░░░░ this kind of insane ░░░░░░░░ I mean the idea ░░░░░░░░ Sidney Powell and Michael ░░░░░░░░ are advising the president ░░░░░░░░ the United States in ░░░░░░░░ Oval Office with the ░░░░░░░░ House counsel not even ░░░░░░░░ how they got in ░░░░░░░░ building this is all ░░░░░░░░ Sidney Powell is not ░░░░░░░░ to advise a dogcatcher ░░░░░░░░ here she is doing ░░░░░░░░ Then you have the ░░░░░░░░ by Donald Trump just ░░░░░░░░ later saying come on ░░░░░░░░ 6th it s going ░░░░░░░░ be wild That s ░░░░░░░░ piece of evidence The ░░░░░░░░ evidence developed by the ░░░░░░░░ is this plan for ░░░░░░░░ January 6th insurrection wasn ░░░░░░░░ spontaneous It was all ░░░░░░░░ in Then most tantalizingly ░░░░░░░░ the end of the ░░░░░░░░ the committee said next ░░░░░░░░ you re going to ░░░░░░░░ from pat cipallone the ░░░░░░░░ House counsel and he ░░░░░░░░ going to take you ░░░░░░░░ minute by minute those ░░░░░░░░ minutes and what Donald ░░░░░░░░ was doing or not ░░░░░░░░ Didn t call the ░░░░░░░░ general didn t call ░░░░░░░░ army nothing while the ░░░░░░░░ is being invaded All ░░░░░░░░ this didn t just ░░░░░░░░ we find out Of ░░░░░░░░ we guessed it all ░░░░░░░░ but we find out ░░░░░░░░ that it was planned ░░░░░░░░ heard explosive testimony last ░░░░░░░░ from Cassidy Hutchinson that ░░░░░░░░ was bell belligerent when ░░░░░░░░ was not allowed to ░░░░░░░░ to the Capitol He ░░░░░░░░ out a tweet saying ░░░░░░░░ were going to March ░░░░░░░░ the Capitol Then of ░░░░░░░░ somebody said Mr President ░░░░░░░░ can t do that ░░░░░░░░ then saw the text ░░░░░░░░ Trump is going to ░░░░░░░░ bring this up so ░░░░░░░░ t mention it let ░░░░░░░░ keep it quiet until ░░░░░░░░ last moment You look ░░░░░░░░ the fact that all ░░░░░░░░ this was planned You ░░░░░░░░ at what Steve Bannon ░░░░░░░░ on January 5th about ░░░░░░░░ chaos that s going ░░░░░░░░ reign on January 6th ░░░░░░░░ you are piecing together ░░░░░░░░ that I just don ░░░░░░░░ know how Merrick Garland ░░░░░░░░ the Justice Department avoids ░░░░░░░░ a very close look ░░░░░░░░ and looking at the ░░░░░░░░ of the former president ░░░░░░░░ the United States What ░░░░░░░░ your thoughts That s ░░░░░░░░ right Joe Premeditation is ░░░░░░░░ required It s not ░░░░░░░░ element to the offenses ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump s looking ░░░░░░░░ things like conspiracy or ░░░░░░░░ to obstruct an official ░░░░░░░░ Those are the ones ░░░░░░░░ a federal judge in ░░░░░░░░ has already said it ░░░░░░░░ more likely than not ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump has committed ░░░░░░░░ this premeditation evidence that ░░░░░░░░ committee put forth that ░░░░░░░░ re referring to is ░░░░░░░░ It s incredibly important ░░░░░░░░ helpful for prosecutors or ░░░░░░░░ the congressional committee To ░░░░░░░░ pick up on your ░░░░░░░░ point Joe I 100 ░░░░░░░░ with you It was ░░░░░░░░ thing before these hearings ░░░░░░░░ Merrick Garland to maybe ░░░░░░░░ this was all swept ░░░░░░░░ the rug and we ░░░░░░░░ t know all of ░░░░░░░░ involvement It was just ░░░░░░░░ one evidence about the ░░░░░░░░ But now we know ░░░░░░░░ it would be incredibly ░░░░░░░░ to the rule of ░░░░░░░░ I can t imagine ░░░░░░░░ more damaging than to ░░░░░░░░ hey this is okay ░░░░░░░░ a president of the ░░░░░░░░ States to do These ░░░░░░░░ literally the most serious ░░░░░░░░ imaginable in the book ░░░░░░░░ your presidential office to ░░░░░░░░ and keep yourself in ░░░░░░░░ and interfere with the ░░░░░░░░ of a lawful election ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ Garland has a choice ░░░░░░░░ m sure he doesn ░░░░░░░░ want to do this ░░░░░░░░ the first attorney general ░░░░░░░░ the history of the ░░░░░░░░ States to indict a ░░░░░░░░ president but the evidence ░░░░░░░░ what the evidence is ░░░░░░░░ he has two choices ░░░░░░░░ of them is that ░░░░░░░░ are a nation where ░░░░░░░░ man is above the ░░░░░░░░ The other one is ░░░░░░░░ we are a nation ░░░░░░░░ well the Justice Department ░░░░░░░░ to prosecutor who who ░░░░░░░░ decide to prosecute And ░░░░░░░░ you re a president ░░░░░░░░ you re powerful enough ░░░░░░░░ laws don t apply ░░░░░░░░ you even when you ░░░░░░░░ trying to take down ░░░░░░░░ United States government Walter ░░░░░░░░ you have seen all ░░░░░░░░ the January 6th hearings ░░░░░░░░ m just curious as ░░░░░░░░ guy who grew up ░░░░░░░░ newspapers a beat Reporter ░░░░░░░░ guy who members I ░░░░░░░░ sure Nixon in 60 ░░░░░░░░ when his people were ░░░░░░░░ Mr Vice president the ░░░░░░░░ stole Illinois You remember ░░░░░░░░ when you know people ░░░░░░░░ Al Gore were saying ░░░░░░░░ Vice president this is ░░░░░░░░ sham You had five ░░░░░░░░ Supreme Court justices vote ░░░░░░░░ other guy in Fight ░░░░░░░░ more In both cases ░░░░░░░░ had one Republican one ░░░░░░░░ put country first Talk ░░░░░░░░ how shocking the revelations ░░░░░░░░ one stacked on top ░░░░░░░░ another are to you ░░░░░░░░ peaceful transfer of power ░░░░░░░░ the most fundamental legal ░░░░░░░░ but also moral principle ░░░░░░░░ what American democracy is ░░░░░░░░ What struck me yesterday ░░░░░░░░ has struck me for ░░░░░░░░ a while is the ░░░░░░░░ divide between people who ░░░░░░░░ stood up for a ░░░░░░░░ I mean pat cipallone ░░░░░░░░ to mind now and ░░░░░░░░ others who said no ░░░░░░░░ no you just can ░░░░░░░░ do it who tried ░░░░░░░░ get into these meetings ░░░░░░░░ the people so many ░░░░░░░░ them who were coupon ░░░░░░░░ or collaborators I don ░░░░░░░░ want to sound like ░░░░░░░░ literary guy on Morning ░░░░░░░░ but kathy and last ░░░░░░░░ went to see shakespear ░░░░░░░░ the park The whole ░░░░░░░░ of it as this ░░░░░░░░ gets more and more ░░░░░░░░ is what causes so ░░░░░░░░ of them to collaborate ░░░░░░░░ be his enablers to ░░░░░░░░ on For Lindsey Graham ░░░░░░░░ Kevin McCarthy if they ░░░░░░░░ t seen the play ░░░░░░░░ me give you a ░░░░░░░░ alert it doesn t ░░░░░░░░ well for the collaborators ░░░░░░░░ invite literary guys and ░░░░░░░░ on our show Shakespeare ░░░░░░░░ It s so interesting ░░░░░░░░ I think the questions ░░░░░░░░ for the Justice Department ░░░░░░░░ so much laid out ░░░░░░░░ there s a lot ░░░░░░░░ think about before you ░░░░░░░░ charges or bring charges ░░░░░░░░ a former president There ░░░░░░░░ a lot of potential ░░░░░░░░ and consequences to that ░░░░░░░░ I think also with ░░░░░░░░ that has been laid ░░░░░░░░ so far some might ░░░░░░░░ be asking what are ░░░░░░░░ dangers of no consequences ░░░░░░░░ m curious the big ░░░░░░░░ here would be trying ░░░░░░░░ establish intent that President ░░░░░░░░ made this mob do ░░░░░░░░ they did or inspired ░░░░░░░░ to do what they ░░░░░░░░ Talk to me if ░░░░░░░░ could about the will ░░░░░░░░ wild tweet and the ░░░░░░░░ it so immediately got ░░░░░░░░ know when I was ░░░░░░░░ the hearings yesterday I ░░░░░░░░ thinking about how the ░░░░░░░░ of the Constitution were ░░░░░░░░ of a president who ░░░░░░░░ in command of a ░░░░░░░░ standing army This is ░░░░░░░░ Congress appropriates money every ░░░░░░░░ years as a check ░░░░░░░░ see some of the ░░░░░░░░ of that fear in ░░░░░░░░ what was going on ░░░░░░░░ up to January 6th ░░░░░░░░ what Trump was doing ░░░░░░░░ mobilizing a shadow army ░░░░░░░░ was putting out a ░░░░░░░░ to arms kind of ░░░░░░░░ a comic super villain ░░░░░░░░ up all of the ░░░░░░░░ of the underworld to ░░░░░░░░ and fight on his ░░░░░░░░ If we layer that ░░░░░░░░ previous testimony that he ░░░░░░░░ they were armed that ░░░░░░░░ had an intention to ░░░░░░░░ them to the Capitol ░░░░░░░░ mean I don t ░░░░░░░░ there s any doubt ░░░░░░░░ was premeditated and pre ░░░░░░░░ I think the premeditation ░░░░░░░░ overcomes the First Amendment ░░░░░░░░ that the Department of ░░░░░░░░ might have in terms ░░░░░░░░ opening an investigation onto ░░░░░░░░ for insurrection for inciting ░░░░░░░░ to basically resist the ░░░░░░░░ of the government of ░░░░░░░░ United States That day ░░░░░░░░ January 6th you may ░░░░░░░░ want to open a ░░░░░░░░ on that because it ░░░░░░░░ like political speech But ░░░░░░░░ you combine it with ░░░░░░░░ we know it s ░░░░░░░░ clear there was an ░░░░░░░░ to use force More ░░░░░░░░ charges I think the ░░░░░░░░ is are they even ░░░░░░░░ Have they even opened ░░░░░░░░ case that says Donald ░░░░░░░░ in the subject line ░░░░░░░░ there s allegations of ░░░░░░░░ of federal law they ░░░░░░░░ gathering evidence on That ░░░░░░░░ what I want to ░░░░░░░░ Whether or not they ░░░░░░░░ charges is a completely ░░░░░░░░ story Just to had ░░░░░░░░ more shakespeare reference in ░░░░░░░░ vi we ve heard ░░░░░░░░ quote the first thing ░░░░░░░░ do is kill all ░░░░░░░░ lawyers which we think ░░░░░░░░ a slam on lawyers ░░░░░░░░ really it s about ░░░░░░░░ are what s standing ░░░░░░░░ the rule of law ░░░░░░░░ tir tyranny tyranny Sidney ░░░░░░░░ Jeffrey Clark were all ░░░░░░░░ in various parts of ░░░░░░░░ scheme It tells us ░░░░░░░░ dangerous we are ining ░░░░░░░░ barrier that holds us ░░░░░░░░ tyranny I m interested ░░░░░░░░ your view of the ░░░░░░░░ that Mika just laid ░░░░░░░░ in front of Merrick ░░░░░░░░ which is it s ░░░░░░░░ joke to indict a ░░░░░░░░ president and when you ░░░░░░░░ what his supporters are ░░░░░░░░ to do in defense ░░░░░░░░ him Yet you have ░░░░░░░░ evidence that if you ░░░░░░░░ an attorney general or ░░░░░░░░ prosecutor has to be ░░░░░░░░ upon How does any ░░░░░░░░ weigh those two things ░░░░░░░░ m the star wars ░░░░░░░░ I m not the ░░░░░░░░ guy I think Garland ░░░░░░░░ going to ultimately have ░░░░░░░░ indict in the end ░░░░░░░░ doesn t have a ░░░░░░░░ The reason for that ░░░░░░░░ there s just so ░░░░░░░░ evidence that involves Donald ░░░░░░░░ directly Just to take ░░░░░░░░ thing from yesterday the ░░░░░░░░ that at this December ░░░░░░░░ meeting Sidney Powell was ░░░░░░░░ special counsel for a ░░░░░░░░ Later she said she ░░░░░░░░ t sure if she ░░░░░░░░ actually named If you ░░░░░░░░ t know you re ░░░░░░░░ not the right person ░░░░░░░░ the job That shows ░░░░░░░░ Trump was using the ░░░░░░░░ of power to manipulate ░░░░░░░░ election results basically and ░░░░░░░░ his own person in ░░░░░░░░ It s the same ░░░░░░░░ that happened with Jeffrey ░░░░░░░░ the environmental official who ░░░░░░░░ for a time named ░░░░░░░░ attorney general All of ░░░░░░░░ is just direct involvement ░░░░░░░░ the argument for Garland ░░░░░░░░ the other side is ░░░░░░░░ might indict and you ░░░░░░░░ not going to get ░░░░░░░░ conviction and what will ░░░░░░░░ do to the rule ░░░░░░░░ law if he s ░░░░░░░░ That s a standard ░░░░░░░░ prosecutors face I was ░░░░░░░░ to be a special ░░░░░░░░ on the George Floyd ░░░░░░░░ Obviously we thought about ░░░░░░░░ kinds of things before ░░░░░░░░ cops with murder But ░░░░░░░░ you make the decision ░░░░░░░░ does the rule of ░░░░░░░░ require Once Garland looks ░░░░░░░░ it there isn t ░░░░░░░░ choice I agree with ░░░░░░░░ entirely The question is ░░░░░░░░ there even an open ░░░░░░░░ If Garland is doing ░░░░░░░░ job well we shouldn ░░░░░░░░ find that out because ░░░░░░░░ of investigations generally aren ░░░░░░░░ revealed by the department ░░░░░░░░ you both very much ░░░░░░░░ being on this morning ░░░░░░░░ President Biden is in ░░░░░░░░ right now, kicking off