Lt. Gen. Kellogg: Finland, Sweden in NATO is Putin’s ‘Worst-Case Scenario’

TURNER The Russian president ░░░░░░░░ Putin says he s ░░░░░░░░ no problem with Sweden ░░░░░░░░ Finland joining NATO but ░░░░░░░░ s ready to respond ░░░░░░░░ the alliance deploy troops ░░░░░░░░ set up any kind ░░░░░░░░ infrastructure in the Nordic ░░░░░░░░ Let s bring in ░░░░░░░░ General Keith Kellogg He ░░░░░░░░ former national security adviser ░░░░░░░░ Vice President Mike Pence ░░░░░░░░ is also a Fox ░░░░░░░░ contributor General what do ░░░░░░░░ make of this from ░░░░░░░░ Is it a lot ░░░░░░░░ grandstanding or is it ░░░░░░░░ maybe not his worst ░░░░░░░░ but his worst case ░░░░░░░░ KELLOGG Well I think ░░░░░░░░ worst case scenario by ░░░░░░░░ way thanks for having ░░░░░░░░ today I think it ░░░░░░░░ a general s worst ░░░░░░░░ scenario as well When ░░░░░░░░ add Finland and you ░░░░░░░░ Sweden when you add ░░░░░░░░ defense budgets right now ░░░░░░░░ are looking at the ░░░░░░░░ budgets that are 25 ░░░░░░░░ now 25 times larger ░░░░░░░░ Russia has and you ░░░░░░░░ at two really high ░░░░░░░░ military nations in Finland ░░░░░░░░ Sweden and look what ░░░░░░░░ doesn t seem to ░░░░░░░░ because what his egregious ░░░░░░░░ within Ukraine but now ░░░░░░░░ is marching towards that ░░░░░░░░ percent of GDP which ░░░░░░░░ all agreed to in ░░░░░░░░ in the Wales declaration ░░░░░░░░ President Trump came in ░░░░░░░░ was only five nations ░░░░░░░░ two percent GDP with ░░░░░░░░ percent that was modernization ░░░░░░░░ everybody is marching towards ░░░░░░░░ including Germany And Germany ░░░░░░░░ the biggest laggard So ░░░░░░░░ when you add that ░░░░░░░░ out there you re ░░░░░░░░ at probably 28 to ░░░░░░░░ percent defense expenditures that ░░░░░░░░ Russia And the other ░░░░░░░░ people don t look ░░░░░░░░ it s geography Right ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine I m sorry ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine but NATO borders ░░░░░░░░ about 400 miles When ░░░░░░░░ add Finland it adds ░░░░░░░░ 1 100 miles TURNER ░░░░░░░░ KELLOGG And when you ░░░░░░░░ at that that whole ░░░░░░░░ that s covered now ░░░░░░░░ the way up to ░░░░░░░░ and where his great ░░░░░░░░ fleet is based at ░░░░░░░░ s tremendous problems not ░░░░░░░░ but also equipment as ░░░░░░░░ He s made a ░░░░░░░░ mistake and I think ░░░░░░░░ generals now are just ░░░░░░░░ their hair out EDSON ░░░░░░░░ know General when you ░░░░░░░░ at just a few ░░░░░░░░ ago Putin had a ░░░░░░░░ on the eastern part ░░░░░░░░ Ukraine he had a ░░░░░░░░ that had questions about ░░░░░░░░ its mission was about ░░░░░░░░ cohesive NATO was Now ░░░░░░░░ has a very cohesive ░░░░░░░░ and does he risk ░░░░░░░░ losing control of eastern ░░░░░░░░ here Is there a ░░░░░░░░ that the Ukrainians can ░░░░░░░░ the Russians out of ░░░░░░░░ territory KELLOGG I think ░░░░░░░░ well they could have ░░░░░░░░ on I think we ░░░░░░░░ a very big strategic ░░░░░░░░ not giving the Ukrainians ░░░░░░░░ they really needed early ░░░░░░░░ And what I was ░░░░░░░░ about specifically and I ░░░░░░░░ said this for weeks ░░░░░░░░ the multiple launch rocket ░░░░░░░░ the MLRS which the ░░░░░░░░ truly fear It was ░░░░░░░░ when we had a ░░░░░░░░ called Assault Breaker back ░░░░░░░░ the 70s to defeat ░░░░░░░░ Soviet Union and the ░░░░░░░░ Pact allies We ve ░░░░░░░░ given them like six ░░░░░░░░ We should have given ░░░░░░░░ about 60 of those ░░░░░░░░ And they could have ░░░░░░░░ the Russian artillery and ░░░░░░░░ s where the Russians ░░░░░░░░ really good They re ░░░░░░░░ good with their artillery ░░░░░░░░ would have countered that ░░░░░░░░ could have allowed the ░░░░░░░░ to push them back ░░░░░░░░ right now I think ░░░░░░░░ Russians are overextended They ░░░░░░░░ reaching a point they ░░░░░░░░ gone about as far ░░░░░░░░ they can go right ░░░░░░░░ and I think that ░░░░░░░░ one of the reasons ░░░░░░░░ you see Putin saying ░░░░░░░░ on a good will ░░░░░░░░ we are going to ░░░░░░░░ out of Snake Island ░░░░░░░░ don t think he ░░░░░░░░ doing that out of ░░░░░░░░ will I think he ░░░░░░░░ just so extended that ░░░░░░░░ has to realize he ░░░░░░░░ to refit and rearm ░░░░░░░░ s going to have ░░░░░░░░ in the future and ░░░░░░░░ think the Ukrainians can ░░░░░░░░ fight this out TURNER ░░░░░░░░ just mentioned NATO unity ░░░░░░░░ just saw a huge ░░░░░░░░ of that overseas with ░░░░░░░░ Biden I guess the ░░░░░░░░ though is that unity ░░░░░░░░ to last and is ░░░░░░░░ going to transfer over ░░░░░░░░ other issues meaning once ░░░░░░░░ is not taking up ░░░░░░░░ entire rearview mirror will ░░░░░░░░ extend to common threats ░░░░░░░░ China or is it ░░░░░░░░ to be back to ░░░░░░░░ herding cats again KELLOGG ░░░░░░░░ know Gillian I got ░░░░░░░░ be honest with you ░░░░░░░░ don t really trust ░░░░░░░░ to stand steady for ░░░░░░░░ long period of time ░░░░░░░░ go back to their ░░░░░░░░ their own self serving ░░░░░░░░ and now they re ░░░░░░░░ of Russia but as ░░░░░░░░ go 5 10 years ░░░░░░░░ the road I think ░░░░░░░░ interests are going to ░░░░░░░░ over especially with energy ░░░░░░░░ there s no other ░░░░░░░░ they are going to ░░░░░░░░ able to resupply what ░░░░░░░░ have had with the ░░░░░░░░ on energy So right ░░░░░░░░ I think it s ░░░░░░░░ s happening to Ukraine ░░░░░░░░ the long term it ░░░░░░░░ one of those wait ░░░░░░░░ see I think the ░░░░░░░░ alliance has to pick ░░░░░░░░ more in support The ░░░░░░░░ States is giving much ░░░░░░░░ support than the rest ░░░░░░░░ the NATO allies There ░░░░░░░░ an article in The ░░░░░░░░ Street Journal yesterday that ░░░░░░░░ exactly that Everybody s ░░░░░░░░ to step up besides ░░░░░░░░ the Americans It s ░░░░░░░░ now the American taxpayer ░░░░░░░░ s got to be ░░░░░░░░ them as well This ░░░░░░░░ a European issue primarily ░░░░░░░░ And the war is ░░░░░░░░ place on their territory ░░░░░░░░ It is TURNER General ░░░░░░░░ happy 4th to you ░░░░░░░░ so much for joining ░░░░░░░░ this afternoon KELLOGG Thanks ░░░░░░░░ Thank you EDSON Thanks ░░░░░░░░