Van Jones: When Biden Stumbles, ‘You Wonder,’ ‘Is Something Else There?’ Dems Are Asking About Biden’s Age and Stamina

BURNETT In the meantime ░░░░░░░░ Jones with me now ░░░░░░░░ special adviser to President ░░░░░░░░ and David Urban he ░░░░░░░░ an adviser to President ░░░░░░░░ s 2020 campaign and ░░░░░░░░ since advised candidates running ░░░░░░░░ Trump backed candidates S ░░░░░░░░ let s be clear ░░░░░░░░ David when we look ░░░░░░░░ South Carolina where we ░░░░░░░░ awaiting those results Nancy ░░░░░░░░ and Tom Rice are ░░░░░░░░ on Trump s hit ░░░░░░░░ He slams them both ░░░░░░░░ Mace has been trying ░░░░░░░░ to say Let s ░░░░░░░░ about other things You ░░░░░░░░ John King right I ░░░░░░░░ not going to back ░░░░░░░░ on the fact I ░░░░░░░░ on Trump but I ░░░░░░░░ t talk about it ░░░░░░░░ Rice on the other ░░░░░░░░ not backing down not ░░░░░░░░ away from his criticism ░░░░░░░░ Trump at all Whose ░░░░░░░░ is better URBAN I ░░░░░░░░ we ll find out ░░░░░░░░ morning right Erin Listen ░░░░░░░░ Mace and Tom Rice ░░░░░░░░ two completely different districts ░░░░░░░░ well right BURNETT Fair ░░░░░░░░ Nancy Mace s district ░░░░░░░░ a lot more purple ░░░░░░░░ I think that she ░░░░░░░░ trying to run through ░░░░░░░░ raindrops not getting wet ░░░░░░░░ to speak And the ░░░░░░░░ she ran against is ░░░░░░░░ against her tonight was ░░░░░░░░ congresswoman who lost that ░░░░░░░░ to Democrat So she ░░░░░░░░ a different claim to ░░░░░░░░ Tom Rice I think ░░░░░░░░ happy with his fate ░░░░░░░░ it s going to ░░░░░░░░ and I think he ░░░░░░░░ headed for a runoff ░░░░░░░░ I suspect he looked ░░░░░░░░ his numbers and feels ░░░░░░░░ little differently about his ░░░░░░░░ than Nancy Mace does ░░░░░░░░ her race tonight BURNETT ░░░░░░░░ as you point out ░░░░░░░░ s not just the ░░░░░░░░ it s also the ░░░░░░░░ and where she is ░░░░░░░░ lot more purple for ░░░░░░░░ URBAN In his district ░░░░░░░░ you looked at John ░░░░░░░░ drawing on the map ░░░░░░░░ Rice s district goes ░░░░░░░░ into really Deep South ░░░░░░░░ Carolina There s a ░░░░░░░░ more conservatives So BURNETT ░░░░░░░░ Van Nevada three hours ░░░░░░░░ here Kyung Lah was ░░░░░░░░ there and she spoke ░░░░░░░░ the members of one ░░░░░░░░ the powerful unions in ░░░░░░░░ the Culinary Workers Union ░░░░░░░░ who wields a lot ░░░░░░░░ power obviously in that ░░░░░░░░ with Las Vegas So ░░░░░░░░ re working on getting ░░░░░░░░ the vote and I ░░░░░░░░ to play just part ░░░░░░░░ that conversation for you ░░░░░░░░ starts LAH When you ░░░░░░░░ to people how are ░░░░░░░░ feeling TOVAR They re ░░░░░░░░ They re mad at ░░░░░░░░ LAH Are you worried ░░░░░░░░ Senator Cortez Masto this ░░░░░░░░ TOVAR Yes Yes It ░░░░░░░░ going to be tough ░░░░░░░░ election Clip ends BURNETT ░░░░░░░░ this feeling right now ░░░░░░░░ Well that s an ░░░░░░░░ reflection of the Democratic ░░░░░░░░ grassroots this summer There ░░░░░░░░ just a sense of ░░░░░░░░ and frustration I think ░░░░░░░░ are going to get ░░░░░░░░ in the fight in ░░░░░░░░ fall when we realize ░░░░░░░░ if you just stay ░░░░░░░░ and don t participate ░░░░░░░░ re going to get ░░░░░░░░ worse outcome But I ░░░░░░░░ people have had such ░░░░░░░░ hopes when Trump left ░░░░░░░░ things were going to ░░░░░░░░ great you ll get ░░░░░░░░ this stuff done Democrats ░░░░░░░░ a lot done but ░░░░░░░░ to do even more ░░░░░░░░ when you come up ░░░░░░░░ and you got you ░░░░░░░░ gas prices through the ░░░░░░░░ it s hurting the ░░░░░░░░ of the grassroots I ░░░░░░░░ t think that will ░░░░░░░░ true in the fall ░░░░░░░░ it s true this ░░░░░░░░ BURNETT So David Trump ░░░░░░░░ carries weight among Republicans ░░░░░░░░ talk about the metastasizing ░░░░░░░░ know lie about the ░░░░░░░░ his former Attorney General ░░░░░░░░ Barr now is on ░░░░░░░░ calling Trump s election ░░░░░░░░ claims bullsh t crazy ░░░░░░░░ total nonsense and say ░░░░░░░░ he had lost sense ░░░░░░░░ reality okay so he ░░░░░░░░ all those things URBAN ░░░░░░░░ I watched it yeah ░░░░░░░░ Okay Well he still ░░░░░░░░ he s going to ░░░░░░░░ for Trump if he ░░░░░░░░ the nominee Are we ░░░░░░░░ to see more of ░░░░░░░░ URBAN Yeah I think ░░░░░░░░ will Erin I think ░░░░░░░░ people you know it ░░░░░░░░ the state of politics ░░░░░░░░ s the crazy state ░░░░░░░░ our politics that Van ░░░░░░░░ talking about you saw ░░░░░░░░ reflected by that poll ░░░░░░░░ you know the person ░░░░░░░░ there knocking doors and ░░░░░░░░ to work for the ░░░░░░░░ it s the reality ░░░░░░░░ face that people are ░░░░░░░░ so frustrated they re ░░░░░░░░ frustrated with their lives ░░░░░░░░ re frustrated when they ░░░░░░░░ to the gas pump ░░░░░░░░ they were hoping for ░░░░░░░░ different but they see ░░░░░░░░ inflation and they don ░░░░░░░░ have jobs their shelves ░░░░░░░░ empty you know and ░░░░░░░░ s impacting their daily ░░░░░░░░ And they think Listen ░░░░░░░░ know Trump was bad ░░░░░░░░ my life was better ░░░░░░░░ 401 k existed If ░░░░░░░░ look at down and ░░░░░░░░ brackets on your 401 ░░░░░░░░ now if you re ░░░░░░░░ to have anything in ░░░░░░░░ 401 k people look ░░░░░░░░ and things were different ░░░░░░░░ may not be they ░░░░░░░░ be happy with Donald ░░░░░░░░ I don t think ░░░░░░░░ lot of people would ░░░░░░░░ I take the rhetoric ░░░░░░░░ think they like the ░░░░░░░░ without the rhetoric and ░░░░░░░░ think that s what ░░░░░░░░ re divided about BURNETT ░░░░░░░░ Van there are concerns ░░░░░░░░ some Democrats and we ░░░░░░░░ now seeing them out ░░░░░░░░ right So they re ░░░░░░░░ putting names behind it ░░░░░░░░ we re hearing it ░░░░░░░░ It had been private ░░░░░░░░ now it s percolated ░░░░░░░░ whether Biden should run ░░░░░░░░ 2024 So I want ░░░░░░░░ play an exchange from ░░░░░░░░ night This is Don ░░░░░░░░ speaking to the Press ░░░░░░░░ Karine Jean Pierre Clip ░░░░░░░░ LEMON Does the President ░░░░░░░░ the stamina physically and ░░░░░░░░ do you think to ░░░░░░░░ on even after 2024 ░░░░░░░░ Pierre Don you re ░░░░░░░░ me this question Oh ░░░░░░░░ gosh He s the ░░░░░░░░ of the United States ░░░░░░░░ know he I can ░░░░░░░░ even keep up with ░░░░░░░░ We just got back ░░░░░░░░ New Mexico We just ░░░░░░░░ back from California That ░░░░░░░░ that is not a ░░░░░░░░ that we should be ░░░░░░░░ asking Clip ends BURNETT ░░░░░░░░ As David Axelrod says ░░░░░░░░ he s come out ░░░░░░░░ put his name on ░░░░░░░░ he said Look this ░░░░░░░░ a person who if ░░░░░░░░ win will be closer ░░░░░░░░ 90 at the end ░░░░░░░░ their second term than ░░░░░░░░ And therefore these are ░░░░░░░░ questions Joe Biden said ░░░░░░░░ were fair questions the ░░░░░░░░ time he was running ░░░░░░░░ do you have these ░░░░░░░░ Jones Well I think ░░░░░░░░ is looking very closely ░░░░░░░░ I when he does ░░░░░░░░ Biden does well he ░░░░░░░░ really well that gun ░░░░░░░░ he gave he was ░░░░░░░░ it was powerful When ░░░░░░░░ does badly when he ░░░░░░░░ you get nervous and ░░░░░░░░ wonder is it just ░░░░░░░░ stutter is he tired ░░░░░░░░ something else there So ░░░░░░░░ think that people just ░░░░░░░░ honestly I think a ░░░░░░░░ of Democrats are like ░░░░░░░░ this guy is ready ░░░░░░░░ go we re behind ░░░░░░░░ But if he s ░░░░░░░░ ready to go he ░░░░░░░░ let us know I ░░░░░░░░ that s what s ░░░░░░░░ on URBAN Yeah Look ░░░░░░░░ you saw him on ░░░░░░░░ Kimmel Jimmy Kimmel had ░░░░░░░░ bail him out It ░░░░░░░░ a softball interview He ░░░░░░░░ wandering through the desert ░░░░░░░░ Kimmel s throwing him ░░░░░░░░ lifeline to get to ░░░░░░░░ Jones Look I mean ░░░░░░░░ the way I see ░░░░░░░░ is he s uneven ░░░░░░░░ he does well he ░░░░░░░░ really really well and ░░░░░░░░ he doesn t he ░░░░░░░░ t So the question ░░░░░░░░ which one do you ░░░░░░░░ on The right wing ░░░░░░░░ to see focus when ░░░░░░░░ does not as well ░░░░░░░░ we also got to ░░░░░░░░ he s under more ░░░░░░░░ than probably any president ░░░░░░░░ been in for fifth ░░░░░░░░ or seven generations and ░░░░░░░░ s holding up under ░░░░░░░░ and doing reasonably well ░░░░░░░░ I listen if anyone ░░░░░░░░ that Democrats aren t ░░░░░░░░ to have these questions ░░░░░░░░ closed doors that s ░░░░░░░░ true People are But ░░░░░░░░ he s ready to ░░░░░░░░ people in his party ░░░░░░░░ ready to back him ░░░░░░░░ BURNETT Right I guess ░░░░░░░░ question is what happens ░░░░░░░░ the midterms what decision ░░░░░░░░ made and how it ░░░░░░░░ put out there All ░░░░░░░░ Thank you both very ░░░░░░░░ I appreciate it URBAN ░░░░░░░░