Rufus Montgomery Clashes with Elie Mystal: ‘At What Point’ Will You Move on From Talking About Voter Suppression?

CROSS Rufus I m ░░░░░░░░ straight to you on ░░░░░░░░ voter suppression question because ░░░░░░░░ think that is a ░░░░░░░░ one There have been ░░░░░░░░ 300 voter suppression bills ░░░░░░░░ across this country Voter ░░░░░░░░ has always been a ░░░░░░░░ and tactic of the ░░░░░░░░ but lately it s ░░░░░░░░ based on a lie ░░░░░░░░ Donald Trump had the ░░░░░░░░ stolen from him Curious ░░░░░░░░ thoughts to Elie s ░░░░░░░░ Do you believe that ░░░░░░░░ GOP is helping everyone ░░░░░░░░ fairly and freely in ░░░░░░░░ country MONTGOMERY There s ░░░░░░░░ states and they re ░░░░░░░░ differently I can talk ░░░░░░░░ you about my state ░░░░░░░░ can talk to you ░░░░░░░░ the voting bill that ░░░░░░░░ in Georgia last year ░░░░░░░░ it was a great ░░░░░░░░ I worked on it ░░░░░░░░ heard these things out ░░░░░░░░ D C I had ░░░░░░░░ members calling and saying ░░░░░░░░ The voter suppression bill ░░░░░░░░ of Geor are you ░░░░░░░░ Georgia I just want ░░░░░░░░ make sure you re ░░░░░░░░ Georgia MONTGOMERY Yes yes ░░░░░░░░ out of Georgia I ░░░░░░░░ not I don t ░░░░░░░░ about what s going ░░░░░░░░ all the different states ░░░░░░░░ what they re doing ░░░░░░░░ So you think the ░░░░░░░░ Kemp bill MONTGOMERY Yes ░░░░░░░░ actually worked on it ░░░░░░░░ Oh you worked on ░░░░░░░░ So you think it ░░░░░░░░ fair MONTGOMERY Yes I ░░░░░░░░ on it I think ░░░░░░░░ s fair If you ░░░░░░░░ you think about it ░░░░░░░░ one really brought up ░░░░░░░░ big stink about it ░░░░░░░░ the end If you ░░░░░░░░ back and ask people ░░░░░░░░ talk to me about ░░░░░░░░ bill CROSS We certainly ░░░░░░░░ on this show my ░░░░░░░░ Rufus We definitely made ░░░░░░░░ stink about it MONTGOMERY ░░░░░░░░ well well my question ░░░░░░░░ you is is Georgia ░░░░░░░░ or worse than Delaware ░░░░░░░░ New York Chuck Schumer ░░░░░░░░ from New York Let ░░░░░░░░ compare Georgia to New ░░░░░░░░ Cross talk CROSS Rufus ░░░░░░░░ would say you re ░░░░░░░░ about Chuck Schumer and ░░░░░░░░ voter policies come from ░░░░░░░░ legislatures I mean that ░░░░░░░░ where all these garbage ░░░░░░░░ are coming from And ░░░░░░░░ m trying to because ░░░░░░░░ of the things in ░░░░░░░░ bill that people are ░░░░░░░░ in Georgia specifically that ░░░░░░░░ cannot provide food and ░░░░░░░░ in the state of ░░░░░░░░ you know I grew ░░░░░░░░ in Georgia so we ░░░░░░░░ talk about this you ░░░░░░░░ seen in black neighborhoods ░░░░░░░░ lines wrapped around building ░░░░░░░░ routine closing of polls ░░░░░░░░ Georgia and they have ░░░░░░░░ bill saying that you ░░░░░░░░ give people standing in ░░░░░░░░ lines water That is ░░░░░░░░ planned to target black ░░░░░░░░ brown voters because there ░░░░░░░░ a multiracial multi ethnic ░░░░░░░░ that helped send Senators ░░░░░░░░ Ossoff and Raphael Warnock ░░░░░░░░ Congress tilting the balance ░░░░░░░░ the favor of Democrats ░░░░░░░░ re saying this bill ░░░░░░░░ not bad Go right ░░░░░░░░ MONTGOMERY I m saying ░░░░░░░░ if someone puts a ░░░░░░░░ and they put something ░░░░░░░░ the water what if ░░░░░░░░ taints the food or ░░░░░░░░ the actual water CROSS ░░░░░░░░ Well that s asinine ░░░░░░░░ That s asinine because ░░░░░░░░ has happened for a ░░░░░░░░ time and that has ░░░░░░░░ happened I want to ░░░░░░░░ you about these things ░░░░░░░░ something ridiculous like somebody ░░░░░░░░ put a needle Go ░░░░░░░░ Elie MYSTAL Yeah I ░░░░░░░░ look Rufus who who ░░░░░░░░ away the Voting Rights ░░░░░░░░ in 2013 right Was ░░░░░░░░ Democrats or Republicans 2013 ░░░░░░░░ County v Holder who ░░░░░░░░ that away That was ░░░░░░░░ John Roberts who eviscerated ░░░░░░░░ Voting Rights Act in ░░░░░░░░ Let s fast forward ░░░░░░░░ 2021 Brnovich v Arizona ░░░░░░░░ said that Section To ░░░░░░░░ the Voting Rights Act ░░░░░░░░ no longer applicable Do ░░░░░░░░ know what Section Two ░░░░░░░░ the Voting Rights Act ░░░░░░░░ Section Two of the ░░░░░░░░ Rights Act is how ░░░░░░░░ get to sue for ░░░░░░░░ in voting Who took ░░░░░░░░ away Was it Democrats ░░░░░░░░ no no That would ░░░░░░░░ Sam Alito John Roberts ░░░░░░░░ Kavanaugh Amy Coney Barrett ░░░░░░░░ Thomas That s five ░░░░░░░░ all appointed by Republicans ░░░░░░░░ Not Democrats Republicans Cross ░░░░░░░░ MONTGOMERY Okay but okay ░░░░░░░░ let s be real ░░░░░░░░ on now let s ░░░░░░░░ real for a minute ░░░░░░░░ all are familiar with ░░░░░░░░ nuclear option that Harry ░░░░░░░░ put in place and ░░░░░░░░ said he wasn t ░░░░░░░░ to put it all ░░░░░░░░ way to the Supreme ░░░░░░░░ level John McCain told ░░░░░░░░ Don t do it ░░░░░░░░ t do it Democrats ░░░░░░░░ Who appointed the justices ░░░░░░░░ took it away Cross ░░░░░░░░ MONTGOMERY Let me talk ░░░░░░░░ me talk When the ░░░░░░░░ get in charge they ░░░░░░░░ going to apply it ░░░░░░░░ the Supreme Court level ░░░░░░░░ did and three Republicans ░░░░░░░░ made it three actually ░░░░░░░░ made it through So ░░░░░░░░ can talk about voting ░░░░░░░░ we re there I ░░░░░░░░ to find out what ░░░░░░░░ your vote actually get ░░░░░░░░ have the House you ░░░░░░░░ the Senate you have ░░░░░░░░ White House and you ░░░░░░░░ still crying about voter ░░░░░░░░ How much more voter ░░░░░░░░ do you MYSTAL Because ░░░░░░░░ don t have five ░░░░░░░░ Court Justices because you ░░░░░░░░ of Republicans on the ░░░░░░░░ MONTGOMERY At what point ░░░░░░░░ you going to move ░░░░░░░░ talking about voting suppression ░░░░░░░░ moving into outcomes outcomes ░░░░░░░░ for black people Okay ░░░░░░░░ two years every four ░░░░░░░░ we hear Vote vote ░░░░░░░░ vote vote But what ░░░░░░░░ you specifically getting for ░░░░░░░░ vote What are you ░░░░░░░░ to black people after ░░░░░░░░ say voting That s ░░░░░░░░ I agree with you ░░░░░░░░ voter suppression let s ░░░░░░░░ it But what happens ░░░░░░░░ What are you specifically ░░░░░░░░ to help black people ░░░░░░░░ that vote I don ░░░░░░░░ hear that from you ░░░░░░░░ You know Rufus I ░░░░░░░░ to tell you I ░░░░░░░░ that s a fair ░░░░░░░░ Well you hear it ░░░░░░░░ on this show And ░░░░░░░░ think that is a ░░░░░░░░ question What are lack ░░░░░░░░ getting for their vote ░░░░░░░░ have to go away ░░░░░░░░ these terms like the ░░░░░░░░ vote They re black ░░░░░░░░ So you guys we ░░░░░░░░ way over time This ░░░░░░░░ the conversation Rufus you ░░░░░░░░ to come back on ░░░░░░░░ show because I do ░░░░░░░░ to give you a ░░░░░░░░ Elie you re back ░░░░░░░░ the time so I ░░░░░░░░ to have you both ░░░░░░░░ together to continue this ░░░░░░░░ because we re in ░░░░░░░░ midterm year and there ░░░░░░░░ be a lot of ░░░░░░░░ to talk about how ░░░░░░░░ parties will serve the ░░░░░░░░ majority.”