Jonathan Haidt: Authoritarians on the Far Right Attracted to Neo-Nazism Are an Incredible Danger to Our Country

GEIST Eddie first of ░░░░░░░░ it s great to ░░░░░░░░ you It s been ░░░░░░░░ long I ll let ░░░░░░░░ take it to John ░░░░░░░░ just a moment but ░░░░░░░░ some of these conspiracy ░░░░░░░░ some of these what ░░░░░░░░ like small groups of ░░░░░░░░ cooking things up online ░░░░░░░░ be elevated to the ░░░░░░░░ House for example There ░░░░░░░░ be Covid conspiracy theories ░░░░░░░░ theories about the 2020 ░░░░░░░░ and can be pushed ░░░░░░░░ the mainstream GLAUDE JR ░░░░░░░░ absolutely I think this ░░░░░░░░ an important piece for ░░░░░░░░ number of reasons Willie ░░░░░░░░ it s great to ░░░░░░░░ everyone It s been ░░░░░░░░ long as you said ░░░░░░░░ Yeah GLAUDE JR But ░░░░░░░░ think it s important ░░░░░░░░ we make this a ░░░░░░░░ we make the argument ░░░░░░░░ little more nuanced right ░░░░░░░░ think there s always ░░░░░░░░ this worry about democracies ░░░░░░░░ back to Edmund Burke ░░░░░░░░ you know mass will ░░░░░░░░ down that somehow there ░░░░░░░░ be a danger that ░░░░░░░░ democracy itself would generate ░░░░░░░░ kind of stupidity in ░░░░░░░░ ways that every day ░░░░░░░░ folk can t cover ░░░░░░░░ This is a kind ░░░░░░░░ longstanding word And I ░░░░░░░░ Jonathan makes a good ░░░░░░░░ about the structural activity ░░░░░░░░ the Republican Party and ░░░░░░░░ material consequences I am ░░░░░░░░ worried about the moral ░░░░░░░░ around what might be ░░░░░░░░ the digital Jacobins and ░░░░░░░░ work that they are ░░░░░░░░ I wanted to press ░░░░░░░░ little bit more about ░░░░░░░░ s happening here This ░░░░░░░░ a question I want ░░░░░░░░ pose to Jonathan And ░░░░░░░░ is who are these ░░░░░░░░ left folk that shorthand ░░░░░░░░ to be doing a ░░░░░░░░ of work Are these ░░░░░░░░ people who are arguing ░░░░░░░░ a living wage HAIDT ░░░░░░░░ GLAUDE JR Are these ░░░░░░░░ folks pushing for criminal ░░░░░░░░ reform Are these the ░░░░░░░░ who are arguing against ░░░░░░░░ Bezos and the billionaires ░░░░░░░░ mean who are these ░░░░░░░░ left folk who are ░░░░░░░░ darts in the way ░░░░░░░░ are suggesting they are ░░░░░░░░ HAIDT So I love ░░░░░░░░ phrase digital Jacobins I ░░░░░░░░ that is right So ░░░░░░░░ s try to be ░░░░░░░░ nuanced about this We ░░░░░░░░ think about a single ░░░░░░░░ of politics And so ░░░░░░░░ know is he talking ░░░░░░░░ far left versus the ░░░░░░░░ left If the far ░░░░░░░░ wants economic mobility and ░░░░░░░░ is that Jacobinism No ░░░░░░░░ at all It s ░░░░░░░░ a straight line America ░░░░░░░░ composed mostly of fairly ░░░░░░░░ people on the left ░░░░░░░░ the right And then ░░░░░░░░ have always extremists there ░░░░░░░░ always been people who ░░░░░░░░ radicals who want to ░░░░░░░░ things down America and ░░░░░░░░ American Revolution was a ░░░░░░░░ more pragmatic revolution unlike ░░░░░░░░ French Revolution which was ░░░░░░░░ Jacobin revolution very violent ░░░░░░░░ it s the sort ░░░░░░░░ the authortarians on the ░░░░░░░░ right who are attracted ░░░░░░░░ even the neo Nazism ░░░░░░░░ militias Those are an ░░░░░░░░ danger to our country ░░░░░░░░ the far left it ░░░░░░░░ not people based on ░░░░░░░░ policies it s people ░░░░░░░░ think they re so ░░░░░░░░ they re right they ░░░░░░░░ t care about due ░░░░░░░░ They will not listen ░░░░░░░░ counter evidence So if ░░░░░░░░ group if your group ░░░░░░░░ the centers then you ░░░░░░░░ usually going to be ░░░░░░░░ in whatever policy you ░░░░░░░░ But if you re ░░░░░░░░ aggressive about enforcing it ░░░░░░░░ you that s what ░░░░░░░░ a left leaning institution ░░░░░░░░ a university stupid We ░░░░░░░░ start doing things that ░░░░░░░░ know don t work ░░░░░░░░ we feel like we ░░░░░░░░ to do them because ░░░░░░░░ the public pressure So ░░░░░░░░ s not defined by ░░░░░░░░ positions you hold it ░░░░░░░░ defined by whether you ░░░░░░░░ the ends justify the ░░░░░░░░ and any degree of ░░░░░░░░ harassment or humiliation of ░░░░░░░░ publicly is justified because ░░░░░░░░ re in the right.”