Tucker Grills Philly Inquirer’s Paul Davies on Hacking: Is It a Good or Bad Thing for Voters to Have the Info?

[excerpt CARLSON Let me ░░░░░░░░ ask you this I ░░░░░░░░ with you I want ░░░░░░░░ know more we all ░░░░░░░░ You said this affected ░░░░░░░░ election And I m ░░░░░░░░ exactly sure how Are ░░░░░░░░ suggesting that the voting ░░░░░░░░ themselves were rigged Are ░░░░░░░░ referring to those e ░░░░░░░░ If you are referring ░░░░░░░░ the emails are you ░░░░░░░░ we shouldn t have ░░░░░░░░ those before we voted ░░░░░░░░ If they influenced the ░░░░░░░░ causing people to vote ░░░░░░░░ way or the other ░░░░░░░░ is their impact on ░░░░░░░░ happened CARLSON How How ░░░░░░░░ they influence people to ░░░░░░░░ How did that happen ░░░░░░░░ mean you re making ░░░░░░░░ allegation Explain how it ░░░░░░░░ DAVIES If people think ░░░░░░░░ because after they read ░░░░░░░░ e mails that somehow ░░░░░░░░ influence the vote one ░░░░░░░░ or the other it ░░░░░░░░ their vote I mean ░░░░░░░░ don t have a ░░░░░░░░ that says 10 percent ░░░░░░░░ people voted for Trump ░░░░░░░░ voted against Clinton because ░░░░░░░░ that CARLSON It is ░░░░░░░░ You are saying that ░░░░░░░░ wish those e mails ░░░░░░░░ a journalist hold on ░░░░░░░░ is an important point ░░░░░░░░ is the point Are ░░░░░░░░ saying you wish those ░░░░░░░░ mails had not gone ░░░░░░░░ the public sphere that ░░░░░░░░ hadn t seen those ░░░░░░░░ mails that we had ░░░░░░░░ information when we voted ░░░░░░░░ that what you are ░░░░░░░░ DAVIES That is not ░░░░░░░░ we said at all ░░░░░░░░ the editorial CARLSON What ░░░░░░░░ you saying DAVIES I ░░░░░░░░ all for having information ░░░░░░░░ there to find out ░░░░░░░░ public should be fully ░░░░░░░░ CARLSON So why are ░░░░░░░░ upset at what happened ░░░░░░░░ the election We got ░░░░░░░░ information DAVIES What I ░░░░░░░░ upset about is that ░░░░░░░░ elect Trump just seems ░░░░░░░░ be blowing the whole ░░░░░░░░ off and telling everybody ░░░░░░░░ move on CARLSON Wait ░░░░░░░░ second DAVIES Relationships and ░░░░░░░░ to Russia and his ░░░░░░░░ and appointment to secretary ░░░░░░░░ state and other friends ░░░░░░░░ he s appointed and ░░░░░░░░ ties and his positive ░░░░░░░░ for Putin is what ░░░░░░░░ troubling CARLSON I get ░░░░░░░░ you don t like ░░░░░░░░ and you don t ░░░░░░░░ Trump But you said ░░░░░░░░ I m reading your ░░░░░░░░ right here you said ░░░░░░░░ of standing up for ░░░░░░░░ bedrock of U S ░░░░░░░░ free and fair elections ░░░░░░░░ you said Trump has ░░░░░░░░ cavalier attitude regarding Russia ░░░░░░░░ efforts to undermine American ░░░░░░░░ And I just want ░░░░░░░░ get right to the ░░░░░░░░ of what you are ░░░░░░░░ How exactly specifically did ░░░░░░░░ prevent that from being ░░░░░░░░ free and fair election ░░░░░░░░ did they undermine our ░░░░░░░░ By telling us things ░░░░░░░░ If they are hacking ░░░░░░░░ the computer systems and ░░░░░░░░ information that influences our ░░░░░░░░ that is troubling CARLSON ░░░░░░░░ me ask you last ░░░░░░░░ If you could go ░░░░░░░░ and undo that would ░░░░░░░░ do so Would you ░░░░░░░░ it so American voters ░░░░░░░░ t know the information ░░░░░░░░ got from the WikiLeaks ░░░░░░░░ DAVIES I don t ░░░░░░░░ that a foreign country ░░░░░░░░ be meddling in our ░░░░░░░░ You are not answering ░░░░░░░░ question DAVIES Regardless of ░░░░░░░░ information is hacked and ░░░░░░░░ That is the point ░░░░░░░░ is the main point ░░░░░░░░ Do you think it ░░░░░░░░ a good thing or ░░░░░░░░ bad thing that we ░░░░░░░░ that information before we ░░░░░░░░ DAVIES I mean it ░░░░░░░░ on where you re ░░░░░░░░ from CARLSON How about ░░░░░░░░ a voter As a ░░░░░░░░ is it better or ░░░░░░░░ to have that information ░░░░░░░░ Having all the information ░░░░░░░░ what you want from ░░░░░░░░ voter but having it ░░░░░░░░ by a foreign government ░░░░░░░░ not what you want ░░░░░░░░ So you like the ░░░░░░░░ but not the means ░░░░░░░░ I don t want ░░░░░░░░ foreign country hacking into ░░░░░░░░ information or elections and ░░░░░░░░ President elect just blowing ░░░░░░░░ off like it is ░░░░░░░░ a big deal CARLSON ░░░░░░░░ right I m still ░░░░░░░░ trouble understanding your argument ░░░░░░░░ thank you for the ░░░░░░░░ I appreciate it.”