RUSH TRANSCRIPT We re ░░░░░░░░ to in just a ░░░░░░░░ talk with Alliance Defending ░░░░░░░░ get our regular end ░░░░░░░░ the month Look at ░░░░░░░░ freedoms and liberties in ░░░░░░░░ country also last Friday ░░░░░░░░ month we ll get ░░░░░░░░ look at the world ░░░░░░░░ finances with that Kelly ░░░░░░░░ partners genie Kelly also ░░░░░░░░ we do every Friday ░░░░░░░░ see what s happening ░░░░░░░░ the world of movies ░░░░░░░░ entertainment with our friends ░░░░░░░░ movie guide our target ░░░░░░░░ Ted bear the founder ░░░░░░░░ publisher of movie guide ░░░░░░░░ is the chairman of ░░░░░░░░ Christian film and television ░░░░░░░░ s will talk with ░░░░░░░░ doctor Bear also will ░░░░░░░░ we do each Friday ░░░░░░░░ a family friend oddly ░░░░░░░░ fun Look at the ░░░░░░░░ of sports with our ░░░░░░░░ fan guys and while ░░░░░░░░ the week after that ░░░░░░░░ will open up the ░░░░░░░░ night for free for ░░░░░░░░ Friday for the rest ░░░░░░░░ the afternoon not new ░░░░░░░░ about whatever you feel ░░░░░░░░ talking about right Now ░░░░░░░░ it is the last ░░░░░░░░ the month and that ░░░░░░░░ when we always get ░░░░░░░░ update for the month ░░░░░░░░ what s happening in ░░░░░░░░ world of religious freedoms ░░░░░░░░ constitutional rights being infringed ░░░░░░░░ Of course we got ░░░░░░░░ Defending Freedom out there ░░░░░░░░ the front lines fighting ░░░░░░░░ behalf of us who ░░░░░░░░ one of the cases ░░░░░░░░ ve probably seen this ░░░░░░░░ the news This Seattle ░░░░░░░░ school football coach Joseph ░░░░░░░░ who was suspended because ░░░░░░░░ was engaging in a ░░░░░░░░ seconds of personal prayer ░░░░░░░░ the end of a ░░░░░░░░ so he s suspended ░░░░░░░░ this are you kidding ░░░░░░░░ Are it well This ░░░░░░░░ been working his way ░░░░░░░░ through the courts alliance ░░░░░░░░ freedom is defending him ░░░░░░░░ the Supreme Court has ░░░░░░░░ that they are taking ░░░░░░░░ case which is really ░░░░░░░░ news A David portman ░░░░░░░░ senior counsel and vice ░░░░░░░░ of you as litigation ░░░░░░░░ alliance defending freedom who ░░░░░░░░ me now Her with ░░░░░░░░ take all day for ░░░░░░░░ me on again thank ░░░░░░░░ sir and how does ░░░░░░░░ work with Stephen briar ░░░░░░░░ he is so What ░░░░░░░░ he be part of ░░░░░░░░ this and ruling on ░░░░░░░░ case her now coli ░░░░░░░░ stay until the end ░░░░░░░░ the session which I ░░░░░░░░ as in summer Is ░░░░░░░░ s right It s ░░░░░░░░ s Probably not because ░░░░░░░░ case fill needs to ░░░░░░░░ brief Oh end and ░░░░░░░░ court has set up ░░░░░░░░ argument which will likely ░░░░░░░░ in the fall so ░░░░░░░░ can probably not fit ░░░░░░░░ this case so it ░░░░░░░░ most likely gonna be ░░░░░░░░ Stephen Breyer s replacement ░░░░░░░░ be So I wait ░░░░░░░░ that to be kind ░░░░░░░░ interesting to to see ░░░░░░░░ guess cup deva give ░░░░░░░░ background on this case ░░░░░░░░ happened with Joe If ░░░░░░░░ exactly don t interesting ░░░░░░░░ the cases being on ░░░░░░░░ for many years now ░░░░░░░░ and down to the ░░░░░░░░ this is a second ░░░░░░░░ all about but here ░░░░░░░░ made the reason this ░░░░░░░░ all or and is ░░░░░░░░ is There is old ░░░░░░░░ in a court age ░░░░░░░░ 19 sixty nine that ░░░░░░░░ lay students by teachers ░░░░░░░░ t shed their constitutional ░░░░░░░░ at the school schoolhouse ░░░░░░░░ so don t weren ░░░░░░░░ even know If you ░░░░░░░░ for a the government ░░░░░░░░ work or public school ░░░░░░░░ still carrier constitutional rights ░░░░░░░░ you In this case ░░░░░░░░ school district argued and ░░░░░░░░ lower courts The Ninth ░░░░░░░░ held that you actually ░░░░░░░░ that you re religious ░░░░░░░░ and at the schoolhouse ░░░░░░░░ because a student or ░░░░░░░░ may observe you You ░░░░░░░░ being religious and that ░░░░░░░░ the establishment clause emily ░░░░░░░░ that we are that ░░░░░░░░ are it s are ░░░░░░░░ so I m clear ░░░░░░░░ than a student seeing ░░░░░░░░ coach out on the ░░░░░░░░ with his head bowed ░░░░░░░░ his eyes closed by ░░░░░░░░ a student saying that ░░░░░░░░ getting offended by That ░░░░░░░░ the same thing as ░░░░░░░░ making a law establishing ░░░░░░░░ an official religion in ░░░░░░░░ country Right That would ░░░░░░░░ let alone of let ░░░░░░░░ prohibiting the free exercise ░░░░░░░░ But that equates to ░░░░░░░░ to the ninth Establishing ░░░░░░░░ official religion for the ░░░░░░░░ it it it does ░░░░░░░░ what s amazing about ░░░░░░░░ ve heard in a ░░░░░░░░ help your odd sorry ░░░░░░░░ entity even certain court ░░░░░░░░ view the establishment clause ░░░░░░░░ like it like you ░░░░░░░░ in it swallows the ░░░░░░░░ of First Amendment like ░░░░░░░░ beat of blood club ░░░░░░░░ that was the policy ░░░░░░░░ the school district actually ░░░░░░░░ up here That passing ░░░░░░░░ said that a coach ░░░░░░░░ others cannot engage in ░░░░░░░░ demonstrative which basically means ░░░░░░░░ You could see somebody ░░░░░░░░ any device Did it ░░░░░░░░ activity that other people ░░░░░░░░ that either students are ░░░░░░░░ public could observe so ░░░░░░░░ a how broad that ░░░░░░░░ any religious activity that ░░░░░░░░ could fear observe is ░░░░░░░░ Okay you know it ░░░░░░░░ use really chilling about ░░░░░░░░ and and I know ░░░░░░░░ want to be careful ░░░░░░░░ because I know you ░░░░░░░░ argue you ve argued ░░░░░░░░ the Supreme Court before ░░░░░░░░ so I know you ░░░░░░░░ to be sensitive Man ░░░░░░░░ to try to go ░░░░░░░░ end up saying anything ░░░░░░░░ about the Supreme Court ░░░░░░░░ but here s what ░░░░░░░░ really chilling to me ░░░░░░░░ this You know that ░░░░░░░░ re gonna have three ░░░░░░░░ Probably for again is ░░░░░░░░ Breyer s replacement along ░░░░░░░░ sony asante sana my ░░░░░░░░ ilana keg and we ░░░░░░░░ are going to be ░░░░░░░░ votes against this coach ░░░░░░░░ Roberts If he gets ░░░░░░░░ on the wrong side ░░░░░░░░ the bed is probably ░░░░░░░░ be a no vote ░░░░░░░░ all they need to ░░░░░░░░ is peel Away one ░░░░░░░░ maybe brett Kavanaugh on ░░░░░░░░ bad day or amy ░░░░░░░░ Barrett and then boom ░░░░░░░░ suddenly it s the ░░░░░░░░ law of the land ░░░░░░░░ your that that that ░░░░░░░░ of that the freedom ░░░░░░░░ practice your religion okay ░░░░░░░░ the free exercise clause ░░░░░░░░ now moot when you ░░░░░░░░ to To the boundaries ░░░░░░░░ the school I I ░░░░░░░░ I can t imagine ░░░░░░░░ being the new precedent ░░░░░░░░ in this country but ░░░░░░░░ submit you we are ░░░░░░░░ maybe two seats from ░░░░░░░░ Supreme Court away from ░░░░░░░░ becoming president Yeah there ░░░░░░░░ there s a lot ░░░░░░░░ and and I think ░░░░░░░░ re right you know ░░░░░░░░ wouldn t thing of ░░░░░░░░ do when I have ░░░░░░░░ opportunity go before the ░░░░░░░░ it on looking to ░░░░░░░░ everybody s vote on ░░░░░░░░ you know regardless of ░░░░░░░░ their views are I ░░░░░░░░ talking everybody up there ░░░░░░░░ I think it s ░░░░░░░░ s a principle that ░░░░░░░░ regardless of what religion ░░░░░░░░ are or no religion ░░░░░░░░ think that s absolutely ░░░░░░░░ but it also shows ░░░░░░░░ importance of making sure ░░░░░░░░ go out and vote ░░░░░░░░ you re electing will ░░░░░░░░ of judges and justices ░░░░░░░░ re choosing and that ░░░░░░░░ election regardless of your ░░░░░░░░ stretch Everyone should heed ░░░░░░░░ that you knew her ░░░░░░░░ and Bob You need ░░░░░░░░ make sure that that ░░░░░░░░ you know what s ░░░░░░░░ know this This ruling ░░░░░░░░ the knife was was ░░░░░░░░ a three judge panel ░░░░░░░░ that the full ninth ░░░░░░░░ it it started off ░░░░░░░░ a three judge panel ░░░░░░░░ then any judge can ░░░░░░░░ for the entire panel ░░░░░░░░ though They did vote ░░░░░░░░ then it was denied ░░░░░░░░ there was a whole ░░░░░░░░ eleven judges ah dissenting ░░░░░░░░ they saying that the ░░░░░░░░ Circuit should have taken ░░░░░░░░ So it was completely ░░░░░░░░ at the Ninth Circuit ░░░░░░░░ a lotta judges saying ░░░░░░░░ this this was fine ░░░░░░░░ the school districts Prohibit ░░░░░░░░ up it over the ░░░░░░░░ bunch of upset know ░░░░░░░░ violates the Constitution and ░░░░░░░░ many different way Okay ░░░░░░░░ just I mean look ░░░░░░░░ would love for this ░░░░░░░░ be of a nine ░░░░░░░░ zero victory but I ░░░░░░░░ just I m not ░░░░░░░░ my breath For that ░░░░░░░░ know the ninth has ░░░░░░░░ overturned by scotus a ░░░░░░░░ I get that but ░░░░░░░░ add a further nice ░░░░░░░░ be overturned nine two ░░░░░░░░ That seems pretty rare ░░░░░░░░ and so it just ░░░░░░░░ to me that this ░░░░░░░░ gonna be a squeaker ░░░░░░░░ in it ought not ░░░░░░░░ that way What did ░░░░░░░░ coach do exactly I ░░░░░░░░ or at at explained ░░░░░░░░ us exactly what he ░░░░░░░░ was he was he ░░░░░░░░ coursing players to participate ░░░░░░░░ him What did he ░░░░░░░░ not and I think ░░░░░░░░ s the major point ░░░░░░░░ that basically he felt ░░░░░░░░ God ito calling him ░░░░░░░░ as a coach to ░░░░░░░░ give thanks after the ░░░░░░░░ for everybody s safety ░░░░░░░░ the play a bar ░░░░░░░░ the camaraderie all that ░░░░░░░░ on so after the ░░░░░░░░ was over after thing ░░░░░░░░ the vanden players were ░░░░░░░░ about and then you ░░░░░░░░ do whatever you wish ░░░░░░░░ would go to the ░░░░░░░░ of the football field ░░░░░░░░ which if your lie ░░░░░░░░ down and try They ░░░░░░░░ or silently just to ░░░░░░░░ and by himself and ░░░░░░░░ when people would see ░░░░░░░░ sometimes students or sometimes ░░░░░░░░ a team that say ░░░░░░░░ can we join you ░░░░░░░░ response was if the ░░░░░░░░ country you can do ░░░░░░░░ you and the point ░░░░░░░░ that it it didn ░░░░░░░░ force anyone to join ░░░░░░░░ He didn t force ░░░░░░░░ to kneel anyone to ░░░░░░░░ It was It was ░░░░░░░░ thing that that he ░░░░░░░░ by himself but because ░░░░░░░░ people Other people joined ░░░░░░░░ voluntarily than the district ░░░░░░░░ watched you might you ░░░░░░░░ t even do it ░░░░░░░░ people watch you because ░░░░░░░░ think it s the ░░░░░░░░ doing it Even it ░░░░░░░░ very clear obviously with ░░░░░░░░ private religious ecstasy okay ░░░░░░░░ there a particular legal ░░░░░░░░ framework strategy that you ░░░░░░░░ applying here in this ░░░░░░░░ case or could there ░░░░░░░░ seems to me that ░░░░░░░░ it s so painfully ░░░░░░░░ that this is not ░░░░░░░░ to Congress making a ░░░░░░░░ establishing respecting an establishment ░░░░░░░░ religion in this country ░░░░░░░░ seems to me painfully ░░░░░░░░ that he s being ░░░░░░░░ his it his right ░░░░░░░░ practices his religious beliefs ░░░░░░░░ involved with does common ░░░░░░░░ mean these days and ░░░░░░░░ courts So is there ░░░░░░░░ particular strategy or angle ░░░░░░░░ of certain type of ░░░░░░░░ law that you re ░░░░░░░░ changing your argument on ░░░░░░░░ and and it it ░░░░░░░░ be there is and ░░░░░░░░ s a couple different ░░░░░░░░ to it and and ░░░░░░░░ of all our friend ░░░░░░░░ first liberty and paltrow ░░░░░░░░ It which is a ░░░░░░░░ Supreme Court advocate will ░░░░░░░░ argued The case we ░░░░░░░░ the brief in their ░░░░░░░░ but the main messages ░░░░░░░░ that the first a ░░░░░░░░ everyone s right to ░░░░░░░░ Even if you re ░░░░░░░░ public employee you don ░░░░░░░░ give up those rights ░░░░░░░░ sell Although the one ░░░░░░░░ is is this is ░░░░░░░░ religious speech which is ░░░░░░░░ by the Constitution It ░░░░░░░░ not government speech which ░░░░░░░░ is what the school ░░░░░░░░ argued They said just ░░░░░░░░ you work here that ░░░░░░░░ is our speech not ░░░░░░░░ which is which is ░░░░░░░░ ridiculous argument and then ░░░░░░░░ third parties and the ░░░░░░░░ clause the separation of ░░░░░░░░ and state They were ░░░░░░░░ requires them to prohibit ░░░░░░░░ private speech launch an ░░░░░░░░ argument that different vociferates ░░░░░░░░ church and state actually ░░░░░░░░ the other two clauses ░░░░░░░░ next to it free ░░░░░░░░ In practice I saw ░░░░░░░░ requires them to prohibit ░░░░░░░░ religious speech even if ░░░░░░░░ s private so that ░░░░░░░░ kind of the three ░░░░░░░░ than all of them ░░░░░░░░ together supposed to lead ░░░░░░░░ mean We all have ░░░░░░░░ freedom we don t ░░░░░░░░ up pose rights just ░░░░░░░░ request for a public ░░░░░░░░ or public employer parents ░░░░░░░░ the acl You thinking ░░░░░░░░ the free exercise clause ░░░░░░░░ it Atheists 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