McWhorter to Glaude: ‘How You Can Say that I Am Less Concerned with the Fate of Black People?’

GLAUDE JR John this ░░░░░░░░ this is Eddie again ░░░░░░░░ book doesn t read ░░░░░░░░ what you re talking ░░░░░░░░ There is a sentence ░░░░░░░░ end of chapter 1 ░░░░░░░░ you say they re ░░░░░░░░ after your kids MCWHORTER ░░░░░░░░ they are GLAUDE JR ░░░░░░░░ know how that sentence ░░░░░░░░ you know how that ░░░░░░░░ lands in this moment ░░░░░░░░ is MCWHORTER I do ░░░░░░░░ JR there is a ░░░░░░░░ line at the conclusion ░░░░░░░░ the book where you ░░░░░░░░ that some of us ░░░░░░░░ talking about why are ░░░░░░░░ focusing on this when ░░░░░░░░ can focus on January ░░░░░░░░ and the insurrectionists You ░░░░░░░░ it a debating feint ░░░░░░░░ now we know that ░░░░░░░░ stop the steal is ░░░░░░░░ legislatures across the country ░░░░░░░░ try to disenfranchise voters ░░░░░░░░ color We ve seen ░░░░░░░░ uptick since 2008 of ░░░░░░░░ crimes I don t ░░░░░░░░ what you re up ░░░░░░░░ I don t understand ░░░░░░░░ political work of this ░░░░░░░░ in this moment Because ░░░░░░░░ come out of a ░░░░░░░░ I understand but I ░░░░░░░░ don t quite get ░░░░░░░░ because I m reading ░░░░░░░░ book and it doesn ░░░░░░░░ match your rhetoric at ░░░░░░░░ It seems to be ░░░░░░░░ MCWHORTER Eddie if you ░░░░░░░░ if you say you ░░░░░░░░ reading I get the ░░░░░░░░ you haven t finished ░░░░░░░░ because I write in ░░░░░░░░ book exactly the sorts ░░░░░░░░ things that I think ░░░░░░░░ help the black community ░░░░░░░░ JR Oh no I ░░░░░░░░ it crosstalk MCWHORTER Well ░░░░░░░░ you wouldn t have ░░░░░░░░ that question It s ░░░░░░░░ constructive book And as ░░░░░░░░ the debating feint I ░░░░░░░░ think it s a ░░░░░░░░ feint to say that ░░░░░░░░ shouldn t have written ░░░░░░░░ book or that it ░░░░░░░░ about trivia simply because ░░░░░░░░ what happened on January ░░░░░░░░ crosstalk GLAUDE JR No ░░░░░░░░ said it was a ░░░░░░░░ feint because it lacked ░░░░░░░░ presence because the woke ░░░░░░░░ have an institutional footing ░░░░░░░░ they can have an ░░░░░░░░ You see no institutional ░░░░░░░░ for the present violence ░░░░░░░░ I pointed you to ░░░░░░░░ state legislatures are doing ░░░░░░░░ then so I don ░░░░░░░░ quite understand the political ░░░░░░░░ in this moment when ░░░░░░░░ see that the FBI ░░░░░░░░ talking about the greatest ░░░░░░░░ to the country are ░░░░░░░░ terrorists and white nationalists ░░░░░░░░ this MCWHORTER Eddie you ░░░░░░░░ t see how this ░░░░░░░░ woke racism isn t ░░░░░░░░ over institutions such as ░░░░░░░░ kinds that both you ░░░░░░░░ I work in If ░░░░░░░░ don t see that ░░░░░░░░ don t understand how ░░░░░░░░ can say that I ░░░░░░░░ less concerned with the ░░░░░░░░ of black people and ░░░░░░░░ black people do and ░░░░░░░░ is thought of black ░░░░░░░░ than you are This ░░░░░░░░ woke racism is taking ░░░░░░░░ institutions that are of ░░░░░░░░ value to both of ░░░░░░░░ I m not saying ░░░░░░░░ problems aren t happening ░░░░░░░░ the right but to ░░░░░░░░ why am I writing ░░░░░░░░ and what is my ░░░░░░░░ and maybe that s ░░░░░░░░ implication other than what ░░░░░░░░ on January 6th is ░░░░░░░░ too no it s ░░░░░░░░ debating feint I should ░░░░░░░░ just as concerned with ░░░░░░░░ as somebody else should ░░░░░░░░ concerned with things that ░░░░░░░░ coming out of the ░░░░░░░░ The white is not ░░░░░░░░ important than this right ░░░░░░░░ I am trying to ░░░░░░░░ us.”