RUSH TRANSCRIPT Neil Neil ░░░░░░░░ that very much Our ░░░░░░░░ Blake Burman at White ░░░░░░░░ Covers it so well ░░░░░░░░ us We re lucky ░░░░░░░░ have him Rebecca heinrichs ░░░░░░░░ to have her She ░░░░░░░░ a cynic when it ░░░░░░░░ to particular meeting between ░░░░░░░░ Putin and president last ░░░░░░░░ I had pleasure to ░░░░░░░░ with her Rebecca you ░░░░░░░░ you wouldn t go ░░░░░░░░ the meeting with Putin ░░░░░░░░ you feel the same ░░░░░░░░ I do feel the ░░░░░░░░ way because Joe Biden ░░░░░░░░ a lot of leverage ░░░░░░░░ he inherited from the ░░░░░░░░ administration and so he ░░░░░░░░ really kind of coming ░░░░░░░░ handed lifting the sanctions ░░░░░░░░ nord stream 2 right ░░░░░░░░ of the summit That ░░░░░░░░ problematic that is a ░░░░░░░░ concession to the Russians ░░░░░░░░ Germans who wanted this ░░░░░░░░ badly It sends the ░░░░░░░░ message with the cyberattacks ░░░░░░░░ came out of Russia ░░░░░░░░ Russian government denied having ░░░░░░░░ to do with them ░░░░░░░░ they require tacit approval ░░░░░░░░ the Russian government to ░░░░░░░░ carried out So really ░░░░░░░░ ve got a flat ░░░░░░░░ budget that the Biden ░░░░░░░░ rolled out too Really ░░░░░░░░ Biden is not coming ░░░░░░░░ with a very strong ░░░░░░░░ I wouldn t have ░░░░░░░░ meeting not right now ░░░░░░░░ all right It is ░░░░░░░░ on nevertheless They have ░░░░░░░░ listened to you Rebecca ░░░░░░░░ don t know why ░░░░░░░░ having said that I ░░░░░░░░ what becomes of it ░░░░░░░░ these hack attacks whatever ░░░░░░░░ want to call them ░░░░░░░░ with frequency and severity ░░░░░░░░ they re coming with ░░░░░░░░ blessing of Vladmir Putin ░░░░░░░░ all of them are ░░░░░░░░ of Russian based we ░░░░░░░░ know they re substantial ░░░░░░░░ we do know the ░░░░░░░░ have the ability and ░░░░░░░░ in hand Many back ░░░░░░░░ this country have urged ░░░░░░░░ president to hack back ░░░░░░░░ other words if they ░░░░░░░░ going to do this ░░░░░░░░ us we have the ░░░░░░░░ to do it far ░░░░░░░░ to them What did ░░░░░░░░ think of that You ░░░░░░░░ I think that s ░░░░░░░░ In order to retaliate ░░░░░░░░ a way that causes ░░░░░░░░ Russian government to understand ░░░░░░░░ have got to stop ░░░░░░░░ they make sure this ░░░░░░░░ not originating from their ░░░░░░░░ you have to exert ░░░░░░░░ cost that makes it ░░░░░░░░ that they don t ░░░░░░░░ it And so whatever ░░░░░░░░ have been doing it ░░░░░░░░ t been working We ░░░░░░░░ to do something different ░░░░░░░░ want to circle back ░░░░░░░░ something I think the ░░░░░░░░ is right in terms ░░░░░░░░ his aim that he ░░░░░░░░ to have a strong ░░░░░░░░ to send a message ░░░░░░░░ we re tight and ░░░░░░░░ we re strong and ░░░░░░░░ we will deter the ░░░░░░░░ Federation the Chinese government ░░░░░░░░ think he is going ░░░░░░░░ it all wrong He ░░░░░░░░ essentially just using hoping ░░░░░░░░ with all this goodwill ░░░░░░░░ the new s t ░░░░░░░░ r t treaty against ░░░░░░░░ Russians without asking anything ░░░░░░░░ it rejoin the Paris ░░░░░░░░ accord waiving the sanctions ░░░░░░░░ please the Germans he ░░░░░░░░ going out of his ░░░░░░░░ to do all this ░░░░░░░░ the W H O ░░░░░░░░ saying that really the ░░░░░░░░ with Donald Trump primarily ░░░░░░░░ I m not Donald ░░░░░░░░ and so I m ░░░░░░░░ to do something different ░░░░░░░░ and really sing kumbayah ░░░░░░░░ allies and partners What ░░░░░░░░ should have done neil ░░░░░░░░ can speak postively from ░░░░░░░░ united front but then ░░░░░░░░ that leverage that he ░░░░░░░░ and pressure the Germans ░░░░░░░░ do to eschew the ░░░░░░░░ stream pipeline and allies ░░░░░░░░ partners deter China and ░░░░░░░░ Instead I don t ░░░░░░░░ this approach will work ░░░░░░░░ doesn t understand the ░░░░░░░░ politics and leverage that ░░░░░░░░ needed to get our ░░░░░░░░ and partners to do ░░░░░░░░ is in their interests ░░░░░░░░ our interests Neil rebekah ░░░░░░░░ with this before Chinese ░░░░░░░░ upped the anteon the ░░░░░░░░ spending I m wondering ░░░░░░░░ Taiwan Crazy as it ░░░░░░░░ to seem they would ░░░░░░░░ Taiwan it is not ░░░░░░░░ crazy anymore I m ░░░░░░░░ wondering what all this ░░░░░░░░ is and provocation is ░░░░░░░░ in that neck of ░░░░░░░░ woods because China has ░░░░░░░░ increased the tensions in ░░░░░░░░ region and I m ░░░░░░░░ wondering is it previewing ░░░░░░░░ It is my number ░░░░░░░░ concern If you were ░░░░░░░░ ask me what I ░░░░░░░░ concerned will happen in ░░░░░░░░ next few years that ░░░░░░░░ have the greatest detrimental ░░░░░░░░ on American preeminence the ░░░░░░░░ S head order it ░░░░░░░░ be that China would ░░░░░░░░ go after Taiwan Taiwan ░░░░░░░░ democratic nation punches far ░░░░░░░░ its size its weight ░░░░░░░░ trade partner We need ░░░░░░░░ for their semiconductors We ░░░░░░░░ it for the geopolitical ░░░░░░░░ the military location Unsinkable ░░░░░░░░ carrier that allows the ░░░░░░░░ States to project power ░░░░░░░░ open seas if China ░░░░░░░░ Taiwan it knocks America ░░░░░░░░ credibility of providing assurances ░░░░░░░░ assurances to Japan to ░░░░░░░░ So the stakes are ░░░░░░░░ high for the United ░░░░░░░░ but they re very ░░░░░░░░ for China Xi xinping ░░░░░░░░ this a priority of ░░░░░░░░ The best thing we ░░░░░░░░ do getting back to ░░░░░░░░ with allies and partners ░░░░░░░░ show a united front ░░░░░░░░ just rosy talks like ░░░░░░░░ Biden is saying Actual ░░░░░░░░ power military commitments to ░░░░░░░░ region to deter the ░░░░░░░░ from doing anything aggressive ░░░░░░░░ Taiwan Neil I wonder ░░░░░░░░ the Chinese are factoring ░░░░░░░░ we invade Taiwan god ░░░░░░░░ it comes to that ░░░░░░░░ wouldn t respond we ░░░░░░░░ t tempt a world ░░░░░░░░ in response Is that ░░░░░░░░ it could be what ░░░░░░░░ you think That is ░░░░░░░░ concern My concern there ░░░░░░░░ too much misunderstanding Things ░░░░░░░░ very vague We intentionally ░░░░░░░░ strategic ambiguity we want ░░░░░░░░ to be clear but ░░░░░░░░ t been more clear ░░░░░░░░ than providing it defense ░░░░░░░░ to defend itself I ░░░░░░░░ time to lean forward ░░░░░░░░ that dial to clarity ░░░░░░░░ away from strategic ambiguity ░░░░░░░░ clarity saying that the ░░░░░░░░ States will not China ░░░░░░░░ Taiwan The more we ░░░░░░░░ and do that the ░░░░░░░░ we ll inspire and ░░░░░░░░ other countries to lean ░░░░░░░░ to the Australians Japanese ░░░░░░░░ need again we don ░░░░░░░░ want to fight a ░░░░░░░░ over Taiwan that would ░░░░░░░░ a disaster We need ░░░░░░░░ do things now to ░░░░░░░░ China from thinking they ░░░░░░░░ a shot at it ░░░░░░░░ all right Rebecca heinrichs ░░░░░░░░ you I think Let ░░░░░░░░ hope cooler heads to ░░░░░░░░ point prevail Other developments ░░░░░░░░ Washington we re keeping ░░░░░░░░ close eye on Apparently ░░░░░░░░ ages of the talks ░░░░░░░░ on with infrastructure president ░░░░░░░░ called the West Virginia ░░░░░░░░ Shelley Moore Capito we ░░░░░░░░ not getting anywhere These ░░░░░░░░ are off That has ░░░░░░░░ stopped a number of ░░░░░░░░ problem solvers caucus and ░░░░░░░░ to come up with ░░░░░░░░ of their own to ░░░░░░░░ this Or this could ░░░░░░░░ be just drama and ░░░░░░░░ chip here to force ░░░░░░░░ back to the table ░░░░░░░░ s get the read ░░░░░░░░ from Missouri congressman Jason ░░░░░░░░ sits on the house ░░░░░░░░ committee House ways and ░░░░░░░░ committee Congressman what do ░░░░░░░░ think Are these talks ░░░░░░░░