RUSSIA/UKRAINE

BRZEZINSKI Mr Secretary I ░░░░░░░░ like to turn our ░░░░░░░░ to Russia We ve ░░░░░░░░ following the situation with ░░░░░░░░ leader Alexei Navalny and ░░░░░░░░ following the president gently ░░░░░░░░ that Vladimir Putin is ░░░░░░░░ killer and saying to ░░░░░░░░ that he doesn t ░░░░░░░░ he has much of ░░░░░░░░ soul What should the ░░░░░░░░ s posture be toward ░░░░░░░░ right now and how ░░░░░░░░ you think President Biden ░░░░░░░░ managing his relationship with ░░░░░░░░ Putin GATES Well I ░░░░░░░░ that actually there s ░░░░░░░░ in in most respects ░░░░░░░░ s pretty much a ░░░░░░░░ deal of continuity between ░░░░░░░░ Trump administration and the ░░░░░░░░ administration when it comes ░░░░░░░░ Russia Russia under Putin ░░░░░░░░ a great disrupter One ░░░░░░░░ his soul objectives is ░░░░░░░░ create as much trouble ░░░░░░░░ the United States and ░░░░░░░░ the western democracies as ░░░░░░░░ possibly can whether it ░░░░░░░░ longer boarders with eastern ░░░░░░░░ or in Ukraine or ░░░░░░░░ Black Sea or a ░░░░░░░░ of other places or ░░░░░░░░ interference in our own ░░░░░░░░ affairs So I think ░░░░░░░░ tough line that has ░░░░░░░░ taken is is exactly ░░░░░░░░ right one I think ░░░░░░░░ have to reconcile ourselves ░░░░░░░░ the fact that Vladimir ░░░░░░░░ is going to leave ░░░░░░░░ feet first One way ░░░░░░░░ the other he s ░░░░░░░░ going to be able ░░░░░░░░ give up power or ░░░░░░░░ to And so this ░░░░░░░░ a challenge that we ░░░░░░░░ we re going to ░░░░░░░░ to face going forward ░░░░░░░░ I think frankly the ░░░░░░░░ s approach is a ░░░░░░░░ approach is the right ░░░░░░░░