Rye: Black People ‘Carry Trauma in Our Bodies’ from Systemic Racism of American Policing

STEPHANOPOULOS Angela it does ░░░░░░░░ like this issue I ░░░░░░░░ about with both Congresswoman ░░░░░░░░ and Senator Scott RYE ░░░░░░░░ STEPHANOPOULOS this issue of ░░░░░░░░ much to shield police ░░░░░░░░ lawsuits what the standard ░░░░░░░░ be for prosecution that ░░░░░░░░ is going to be ░░░░░░░░ determines whether we get ░░░░░░░░ compromise or not RYE ░░░░░░░░ does And I think ░░░░░░░░ we have to look ░░░░░░░░ is this verdict this ░░░░░░░░ with Derek Chauvin this ░░░░░░░░ t his first incident ░░░░░░░░ wasn t even his ░░░░░░░░ And it s we ░░░░░░░░ to talk about bad ░░░░░░░░ a lot but the ░░░░░░░░ is that the way ░░░░░░░░ system of policing is ░░░░░░░░ set up it doesn ░░░░░░░░ punish bad systems or ░░░░░░░░ apples Derek Chauvin before ░░░░░░░░ Floyd s nine minutes ░░░░░░░░ 29 seconds knelt on ░░░░░░░░ back of a 14 ░░░░░░░░ 14 year old black ░░░░░░░░ for 17 minutes in ░░░░░░░░ In North Carolina just ░░░░░░░░ week you have Andrew ░░░░░░░░ the father of seven ░░░░░░░░ Ma Khia Bryant in ░░░░░░░░ Ohio You have Miles ░░░░░░░░ in Columbus Ohio who ░░░░░░░░ shot in an emergency ░░░░░░░░ Andrew Hill dropping off ░░░░░░░░ presents right The Columbus ░░░░░░░░ Department isn t about ░░░░░░░░ bad apple It s ░░░░░░░░ an entire department So ░░░░░░░░ have to talk about ░░░░░░░░ immunity without fighting with ░░░░░░░░ but really talking about ░░░░░░░░ we solve for a ░░░░░░░░ that by design from ░░░░░░░░ inception was designed to ░░░░░░░░ and return and enslave ░░░░░░░░ back to their masters ░░░░░░░░ we can t uproot ░░░░░░░░ was intended we will ░░░░░░░░ have this problem and ░░░░░░░░ have to be willing ░░░░░░░░ have honest discourse FAGEN ░░░░░░░░ in the case of ░░░░░░░░ Chauvin the system worked ░░░░░░░░ he s going to ░░░░░░░░ most of the rest ░░░░░░░░ his life in jail ░░░░░░░░ he should You know ░░░░░░░░ we run the risk ░░░░░░░░ overreaction You know we ░░░░░░░░ police reform in this ░░░░░░░░ and I think we ░░░░░░░░ get it and it ░░░░░░░░ in many ways a ░░░░░░░░ for Joe Biden Republican ░░░░░░░░ will not go against ░░░░░░░░ Scott on this issue ░░░░░░░░ if the president can ░░░░░░░░ a deal with Tim ░░░░░░░░ there will be a ░░░░░░░░ HEITKAMP Sara if people ░░░░░░░░ the system worked Chauvin ░░░░░░░░ t have been a ░░░░░░░░ officer and FAGEN My ░░░░░░░░ is that the system ░░░░░░░░ crosstalk HEITKAMP My point ░░░░░░░░ this is a subject ░░░░░░░░ has gone so far ░░░░░░░░ of all the work ░░░░░░░░ s been done Tim ░░░░░░░░ is a hero on ░░░░░░░░ If you ever want ░░░░░░░░ hear an amazing group ░░░░░░░░ floor speeches and they ░░░░░░░░ seldom mean anything but ░░░░░░░░ Scott did three floor ░░░░░░░░ that I think helped ░░░░░░░░ the country as a ░░░░░░░░ Republican senator what he ░░░░░░░░ from law enforcement intervention ░░░░░░░░ I think he truly ░░░░░░░░ be a bridge on ░░░░░░░░ issue if we lower ░░░░░░░░ and we start talking ░░░░░░░░ how we can reform ░░░░░░░░ systems but also recognize ░░░░░░░░ there s a lot ░░░░░░░░ history here that needs ░░░░░░░░ be completely FAGEN Of ░░░░░░░░ there does There needs ░░░░░░░░ be police reform We ░░░░░░░░ agree on that At ░░░░░░░░ same time we can ░░░░░░░░ have the White House ░░░░░░░░ the podium every time ░░░░░░░░ s an altercation you ░░░░░░░░ say that it s ░░░░░░░░ racism because it is ░░░░░░░░ RYE I m sorry ░░░░░░░░ There are instances there ░░░░░░░░ instances that are of ░░░░░░░░ racism and they need ░░░░░░░░ be addressed There are ░░░░░░░░ where a cop simply ░░░░░░░░ in a split second ░░░░░░░░ a very terrible call ░░░░░░░░ there are instances when ░░░░░░░░ cop makes the right ░░░░░░░░ and it s a ░░░░░░░░ outcome And you know ░░░░░░░░ now every single altercation ░░░░░░░░ being presented as systemic ░░░░░░░░ and that s just ░░░░░░░░ accurate RYE I don ░░░░░░░░ think FAGEN We need ░░░░░░░░ dial it back and ░░░░░░░░ out how to do ░░░░░░░░ better job in this ░░░░░░░░ by teaching and educating ░░░░░░░░ officers STEPHANOPOULOS Isn t ░░░░░░░░ a fair point though ░░░░░░░░ mentioned several different instances ░░░░░░░░ again in every single ░░░░░░░░ is tragic because a ░░░░░░░░ was lost FAGEN Right ░░░░░░░░ But they were very ░░░░░░░░ cases RYE Well we ░░░░░░░░ talking about for example ░░░░░░░░ the Columbus Police Department ░░░░░░░░ black people killed in ░░░░░░░░ last five years Systemic ░░░░░░░░ isn t something that ░░░░░░░░ get to cherry pick ░░░░░░░░ decide when you want ░░░░░░░░ apply it It means ░░░░░░░░ system at its core ░░░░░░░░ rotten It means that ░░░░░░░░ has to be re ░░░░░░░░ and revisited as Karen ░░░░░░░░ talked about earlier in ░░░░░░░░ show who also is ░░░░░░░░ champion and a hero ░░░░░░░░ this issue of having ░░░░░░░░ George Floyd Justice in ░░░░░░░░ Act passed the House ░░░░░░░░ What is incumbent upon ░░░░░░░░ think especially people who ░░░░░░░░ perpetuators of said system ░░░░░░░░ to understand that it ░░░░░░░░ not just my experience ░░░░░░░░ s not just me ░░░░░░░░ emotional There is literally ░░░░░░░░ that I carry in ░░░░░░░░ body I encourage you ░░░░░░░░ to read a book ░░░░░░░░ My Grandmother s Hands ░░░░░░░░ Resmaa Menakem who talks ░░░░░░░░ how we carry trauma ░░░░░░░░ our bodies White body ░░░░░░░░ black body trauma and ░░░░░░░░ body trauma It is ░░░░░░░░ fair for us to ░░░░░░░░ for a police officer ░░░░░░░░ shoot and kill because ░░░░░░░░ have an irrational fear ░░░░░░░░ a black person or ░░░░░░░░ person of color That ░░░░░░░░ something that has to ░░░░░░░░ addressed at the systemic ░░░░░░░░ Christie Listen I think ░░░░░░░░ only way we re ░░░░░░░░ to get these things ░░░░░░░░ is to bring the ░░░░░░░░ and the rhetoric down ░░░░░░░░ both sides and I ░░░░░░░░ Tim did a very ░░░░░░░░ job of that in ░░░░░░░░ of talking very honestly ░░░░░░░░ directly about these issues ░░░░░░░░ if what we re ░░░░░░░░ to do is have ░░░░░░░░ emotion on both sides ░░░░░░░░ this we re not ░░░░░░░░ to come to a ░░░░░░░░ Listen STEPHANOPOULOS That emotion ░░░░░░░░ there Christie Of course ░░░░░░░░ George the job of ░░░░░░░░ is to control that ░░░░░░░░ and to channel that ░░░░░░░░ in a productive way ░░░░░░░░ that s what leaders ░░░░░░░░ both sides of the ░░░░░░░░ are going to have ░░░░░░░░ do with this We ░░░░░░░░ this in New Jersey ░░░░░░░░ we did prison reform ░░░░░░░░ sentencing reform in New ░░░░░░░░ that lowered our prison ░░░░░░░░ by 50 percent during ░░░░░░░░ time that I was ░░░░░░░░ And people thought that ░░░░░░░░ t get done but ░░░░░░░░ we did was we ░░░░░░░░ about the facts and ░░░░░░░░ laid the facts out ░░░░░░░░ not no emotion but ░░░░░░░░ controlled emotion on both ░░░░░░░░ so that people would ░░░░░░░░ to the right result ░░░░░░░░ s the right result ░░░░░░░░ s the right result ░░░░░░░░ for civil justice and ░░░░░░░░ justice in my state ░░░░░░░░ it s the right ░░░░░░░░ to do police reform ░░░░░░░░ We will see what ░░░░░░░░ President Biden and Tim ░░░░░░░░ say about that on ░░░░░░░░ Thank you all very ░░░░░░░░