RUSH TRANSCRIPT WHITFIELD With ░░░░░░░░ now is Page Pate ░░░░░░░░ Carrie We heard Mitch ░░░░░░░░ the minority leader saying ░░░░░░░░ was liable for whatever ░░░░░░░░ may have done in ░░░░░░░░ Let s begin with ░░░░░░░░ D C Office What ░░░░░░░░ been done as it ░░░░░░░░ the legal challenges for ░░░░░░░░ Trump facing charges for ░░░░░░░░ insurrection CORDERO The charges ░░░░░░░░ for the insurrection itself ░░░░░░░░ ve got a wide ░░░░░░░░ and it would be ░░░░░░░░ attorney s office and ░░░░░░░░ district of Columbia who ░░░░░░░░ handle both local and ░░░░░░░░ crimes They re the ░░░░░░░░ running the investigation into ░░░░░░░░ insurrection charging many of ░░░░░░░░ individuals who were on ░░░░░░░░ premises involved in that ░░░░░░░░ One of the things ░░░░░░░░ might be looking at ░░░░░░░░ seditious conspiracy which is ░░░░░░░░ charge of overtaking the ░░░░░░░░ or pro venting the ░░░░░░░░ of a law by ░░░░░░░░ And so it s ░░░░░░░░ federal statute that really ░░░░░░░░ in my judgment meet ░░░░░░░░ took place that day ░░░░░░░░ s possible that they ░░░░░░░░ be looking at the ░░░░░░░░ and his incitement that ░░░░░░░░ Other individuals who were ░░░░░░░░ not just in the ░░░░░░░░ of the Capitol but ░░░░░░░░ the planning of it ░░░░░░░░ well But I have ░░░░░░░░ point out that Mitch ░░░░░░░░ s statements are partly ░░░░░░░░ because the constitutional remedy ░░░░░░░░ a president who violates ░░░░░░░░ oath which is basically ░░░░░░░░ Mitch McConnell accused him ░░░░░░░░ doing by inciting this ░░░░░░░░ and by not stopping ░░░░░░░░ as the day was ░░░░░░░░ on that constitutional remedy ░░░░░░░░ impeachment conviction So while ░░░░░░░░ are criminal charges available ░░░░░░░░ really doesn t absolve ░░░░░░░░ Senate Republicans who failed ░░░░░░░░ convict WHITFIELD But of ░░░░░░░░ you heard Mitch McConnell ░░░░░░░░ earlier argument and that ░░░░░░░░ other Republican senators who ░░░░░░░░ believe that it was ░░░░░░░░ constitutional to try to ░░░░░░░░ after a former president ░░░░░░░░ though the body voted ░░░░░░░░ it and said it ░░░░░░░░ a constitutional matter CORDERO ░░░░░░░░ they voted on it ░░░░░░░░ the Senate voted on ░░░░░░░░ that was the end ░░░░░░░░ that issue and they ░░░░░░░░ supposed to go forward ░░░░░░░░ s why somebody like ░░░░░░░░ burr once they moved ░░░░░░░░ in that procedural vote ░░░░░░░░ at the merits of ░░░░░░░░ case That was what ░░░░░░░░ senator s job was ░░░░░░░░ look at the merits ░░░░░░░░ the case once they ░░░░░░░░ beyond that procedure WHITFIELD ░░░░░░░░ page outside the insurrection ░░░░░░░░ calls to Georgia asking ░░░░░░░░ to find 11 789 ░░░░░░░░ and then a separate ░░░░░░░░ call involving a phone ░░░░░░░░ to Georgia officials What ░░░░░░░░ the potential charges here ░░░░░░░░ Well Fred I think ░░░░░░░░ is certainly the potential ░░░░░░░░ criminal charges in Fulton ░░░░░░░░ for Trump s phone ░░░░░░░░ to the secretary of ░░░░░░░░ and other people in ░░░░░░░░ office The district attorney ░░░░░░░░ Fulton County and someone ░░░░░░░░ have known personally for ░░░░░░░░ She is very smart ░░░░░░░░ is very aggressive and ░░░░░░░░ what I am able ░░░░░░░░ tell she is putting ░░░░░░░░ foot to the gas ░░░░░░░░ this criminal investigation Now ░░░░░░░░ potential punishment here is ░░░░░░░░ only a misdemeanor There ░░░░░░░░ rules about solicitation of ░░░░░░░░ election which I think ░░░░░░░░ was clearly doing when ░░░░░░░░ placed those phone calls ░░░░░░░░ me some extra votes ░░░░░░░░ is a request to ░░░░░░░░ election official to tamper ░░░░░░░░ the vote and that ░░░░░░░░ illegal in Georgia It ░░░░░░░░ a misdemeanor but it ░░░░░░░░ still a crime WHITFIELD ░░░░░░░░ the most incriminating evidence ░░░░░░░░ the recorded phone call ░░░░░░░░ everyone got to hear ░░░░░░░░ from raffensperger the secretary ░░░░░░░░ state in Georgia his ░░░░░░░░ PATE Exactly and it ░░░░░░░░ crystal clear The only ░░░░░░░░ question is of intent ░░░░░░░░ that a political statement ░░░░░░░░ I hope you can ░░░░░░░░ 11 780 votes or ░░░░░░░░ he instructing them to ░░░░░░░░ something illegal That will ░░░░░░░░ a juror question If ░░░░░░░░ does decide to charge ░░░░░░░░ will be a jury ░░░░░░░░ WHITFIELD And we have ░░░░░░░░ civil charges in New ░░░░░░░░ having to do with ░░░░░░░░ Trump Administration This is ░░░░░░░░ deal where his state ░░░░░░░░ federal tax returns could ░░░░░░░░ released CORDERO I think ░░░░░░░░ does have sufficient exposure ░░░░░░░░ it comes to those ░░░░░░░░ in particular because those ░░░░░░░░ investigations where some of ░░░░░░░░ conduct has to do ░░░░░░░░ his activity before he ░░░░░░░░ became president So they ░░░░░░░░ had the entire length ░░░░░░░░ his presidency to conduct ░░░░░░░░ investigations They wouldn t ░░░░░░░░ brought them while he ░░░░░░░░ president obviously but now ░░░░░░░░ he is a private ░░░░░░░░ again and much of ░░░░░░░░ investigations pertain to activity ░░░░░░░░ he engaged in prior ░░░░░░░░ becoming president I would ░░░░░░░░ that if they have ░░░░░░░░ facts that demonstrate they ░░░░░░░░ move forward that they ░░░░░░░░ be able to do ░░░░░░░░ now fairly soon WHITFIELD ░░░░░░░░ then page there again ░░░░░░░░ these defamation lawsuits that ░░░░░░░░ largely delayed because the ░░░░░░░░ was in office now ░░░░░░░░ he fair game Both ░░░░░░░░ these cases we re ░░░░░░░░ about are by women ░░░░░░░░ accused Trump of sexual ░░░░░░░░ Do you expect these ░░░░░░░░ to be able to ░░░░░░░░ forward now unlike they ░░░░░░░░ been able to before ░░░░░░░░ Absolutely I mean Trump ░░░░░░░░ has no defense that ░░░░░░░░ can postpone depositions are ░░░░░░░░ to provide information in ░░░░░░░░ Those lawsuits will move ░░░░░░░░ just like any other ░░░░░░░░ against any private individual ░░░░░░░░ we all know Trump ░░░░░░░░ no stranger to litigation ░░░░░░░░ I m certain he ░░░░░░░░ be lawyered up so ░░░░░░░░ speak and he ll ░░░░░░░░ what he can to ░░░░░░░░ those lawsuits but defamation ░░░░░░░░ pretty clear as well ░░░░░░░░ you make a false ░░░░░░░░ about someone and you ░░░░░░░░ it you put it ░░░░░░░░ there you re liable ░░░░░░░░ the only question becomes ░░░░░░░░ amount of damages WHITFIELD ░░░░░░░░ right Page Pate Carrie ░░░░░░░░ we ll leave it ░░░░░░░░ for now Thank you ░░░░░░░░ much PATE Thank you ░░░░░░░░ TRANSCRIPT WHITFIELD With me ░░░░░░░░ is Page Pate and ░░░░░░░░ We heard Mitch McConnell ░░░░░░░░ minority leader saying Trump ░░░░░░░░ liable for whatever he ░░░░░░░░ have done in office ░░░░░░░░ s begin with the ░░░░░░░░ C Office What has ░░░░░░░░ done as it weighs ░░░░░░░░ legal challenges for President ░░░░░░░░ facing charges for that ░░░░░░░░ CORDERO The charges Fred ░░░░░░░░ the insurrection itself they ░░░░░░░░ got a wide variety ░░░░░░░░ it would be the ░░░░░░░░ s office and the ░░░░░░░░ of Columbia who can ░░░░░░░░ both local and federal ░░░░░░░░ They re the ones ░░░░░░░░ the investigation into the ░░░░░░░░ charging many of the ░░░░░░░░ who were on the ░░░░░░░░ involved in that attack ░░░░░░░░ of the things they ░░░░░░░░ be looking at is ░░░░░░░░ conspiracy which is a ░░░░░░░░ of overtaking the government ░░░░░░░░ pro venting the execution ░░░░░░░░ a law by force ░░░░░░░░ so it s a ░░░░░░░░ statute that really does ░░░░░░░░ my judgment meet what ░░░░░░░░ place that day It ░░░░░░░░ possible that they could ░░░░░░░░ looking at the president ░░░░░░░░ his incitement that day ░░░░░░░░ individuals who were involved ░░░░░░░░ just in the storming ░░░░░░░░ the Capitol but in ░░░░░░░░ planning of it as ░░░░░░░░ But I have to ░░░░░░░░ out that Mitch McConnell ░░░░░░░░ statements are partly disingenuous ░░░░░░░░ the constitutional remedy for ░░░░░░░░ president who violates his ░░░░░░░░ which is basically what ░░░░░░░░ McConnell accused him of ░░░░░░░░ by inciting this activity ░░░░░░░░ by not stopping it ░░░░░░░░ the day was going ░░░░░░░░ that constitutional remedy was ░░░░░░░░ conviction So while there ░░░░░░░░ criminal charges available it ░░░░░░░░ doesn t absolve the ░░░░░░░░ Republicans who failed to ░░░░░░░░ WHITFIELD But of course ░░░░░░░░ heard Mitch McConnell s ░░░░░░░░ argument and that of ░░░░░░░░ Republican senators who still ░░░░░░░░ that it was not ░░░░░░░░ to try to go ░░░░░░░░ a former president even ░░░░░░░░ the body voted on ░░░░░░░░ and said it was ░░░░░░░░ constitutional matter CORDERO Right ░░░░░░░░ voted on it Once ░░░░░░░░ Senate voted on it ░░░░░░░░ was the end of ░░░░░░░░ issue and they were ░░░░░░░░ to go forward That ░░░░░░░░ why somebody like senator ░░░░░░░░ once they moved forward ░░░░░░░░ that procedural vote looked ░░░░░░░░ the merits of the ░░░░░░░░ That was what the ░░░░░░░░ s job was to ░░░░░░░░ at the merits of ░░░░░░░░ case once they moved ░░░░░░░░ that procedure WHITFIELD And ░░░░░░░░ outside the insurrection phone ░░░░░░░░ to Georgia asking them ░░░░░░░░ find 11 789 votes ░░░░░░░░ then a separate phone ░░░░░░░░ involving a phone call ░░░░░░░░ Georgia officials What are ░░░░░░░░ potential charges here PATE ░░░░░░░░ Fred I think there ░░░░░░░░ certainly the potential for ░░░░░░░░ charges in Fulton County ░░░░░░░░ Trump s phone call ░░░░░░░░ the secretary of state ░░░░░░░░ other people in that ░░░░░░░░ The district attorney in ░░░░░░░░ County and someone I ░░░░░░░░ known personally for years ░░░░░░░░ is very smart she ░░░░░░░░ very aggressive and from ░░░░░░░░ I am able to ░░░░░░░░ she is putting her ░░░░░░░░ to the gas on ░░░░░░░░ criminal investigation Now the ░░░░░░░░ punishment here is probably ░░░░░░░░ a misdemeanor There are ░░░░░░░░ about solicitation of an ░░░░░░░░ which I think Trump ░░░░░░░░ clearly doing when he ░░░░░░░░ those phone calls Find ░░░░░░░░ some extra votes That ░░░░░░░░ a request to an ░░░░░░░░ official to tamper with ░░░░░░░░ vote and that is ░░░░░░░░ in Georgia It s ░░░░░░░░ misdemeanor but it s ░░░░░░░░ a crime WHITFIELD And ░░░░░░░░ most incriminating evidence is ░░░░░░░░ recorded phone call that ░░░░░░░░ got to hear released ░░░░░░░░ raffensperger the secretary of ░░░░░░░░ in Georgia his office ░░░░░░░░ Exactly and it s ░░░░░░░░ clear The only other ░░░░░░░░ is of intent Was ░░░░░░░░ a political statement hey ░░░░░░░░ hope you can find ░░░░░░░░ 780 votes or was ░░░░░░░░ instructing them to do ░░░░░░░░ illegal That will be ░░░░░░░░ juror question If he ░░░░░░░░ decide to charge it ░░░░░░░░ be a jury question ░░░░░░░░ And we have the ░░░░░░░░ charges in New York ░░░░░░░░ to do with the ░░░░░░░░ Administration This is a ░░░░░░░░ where his state and ░░░░░░░░ tax returns could be ░░░░░░░░ CORDERO I think he ░░░░░░░░ have sufficient exposure when ░░░░░░░░ comes to those cases ░░░░░░░░ particular because those are ░░░░░░░░ where some of the ░░░░░░░░ has to do with ░░░░░░░░ activity before he ever ░░░░░░░░ president So they ve ░░░░░░░░ the entire length of ░░░░░░░░ presidency to conduct those ░░░░░░░░ They wouldn t have ░░░░░░░░ them while he was ░░░░░░░░ obviously but now that ░░░░░░░░ is a private citizen ░░░░░░░░ and much of those ░░░░░░░░ pertain to activity that ░░░░░░░░ engaged in prior to ░░░░░░░░ president I would expect ░░░░░░░░ if they have sufficient ░░░░░░░░ that demonstrate they can ░░░░░░░░ forward that they should ░░░░░░░░ able to do that ░░░░░░░░ fairly soon WHITFIELD And ░░░░░░░░ page there again are ░░░░░░░░ defamation lawsuits that were ░░░░░░░░ delayed because the president ░░░░░░░░ in office now is ░░░░░░░░ fair game Both of ░░░░░░░░ cases we re talking ░░░░░░░░ are by women who ░░░░░░░░ Trump of sexual assault ░░░░░░░░ you expect these cases ░░░░░░░░ be able to move ░░░░░░░░ now unlike they have ░░░░░░░░ able to before PATE ░░░░░░░░ I mean Trump now ░░░░░░░░ no defense that he ░░░░░░░░ postpone depositions are refuse ░░░░░░░░ provide information in discovery ░░░░░░░░ lawsuits will move forward ░░░░░░░░ like any other lawsuit ░░░░░░░░ any private individual And ░░░░░░░░ all know Trump is ░░░░░░░░ stranger to litigation so ░░░░░░░░ m certain he will ░░░░░░░░ lawyered up so to ░░░░░░░░ and he ll do ░░░░░░░░ he can to defend ░░░░░░░░ lawsuits but defamation is ░░░░░░░░ clear as well If ░░░░░░░░ make a false statement ░░░░░░░░ someone and you publish ░░░░░░░░ you put it out ░░░░░░░░ you re liable And ░░░░░░░░ only question becomes the ░░░░░░░░ of damages WHITFIELD All ░░░░░░░░ Page Pate Carrie Cordero ░░░░░░░░ ll leave it there ░░░░░░░░ now Thank you so ░░░░░░░░ PATE Thank you RUSH ░░░░░░░░ WHITFIELD With me now ░░░░░░░░ Page Pate and Carrie ░░░░░░░░ heard Mitch McConnell the ░░░░░░░░ leader saying Trump was ░░░░░░░░ for whatever he may ░░░░░░░░ done in office Let ░░░░░░░░ begin with the D ░░░░░░░░ Office What has been ░░░░░░░░ as it weighs the ░░░░░░░░ challenges for President Trump ░░░░░░░░ charges for that insurrection ░░░░░░░░ The charges Fred for ░░░░░░░░ insurrection itself they ve ░░░░░░░░ a wide variety and ░░░░░░░░ would be the attorney ░░░░░░░░ office and the district ░░░░░░░░ Columbia who can handle ░░░░░░░░ local and federal crimes ░░░░░░░░ re the ones running ░░░░░░░░ investigation into the insurrection ░░░░░░░░ many of the individuals ░░░░░░░░ were on the premises ░░░░░░░░ in that attack One ░░░░░░░░ the things they might ░░░░░░░░ looking at is seditious ░░░░░░░░ which is a charge ░░░░░░░░ overtaking the government or ░░░░░░░░ venting the execution of ░░░░░░░░ law by force And ░░░░░░░░ it s a federal ░░░░░░░░ that really does in ░░░░░░░░ judgment meet what took ░░░░░░░░ that day It s ░░░░░░░░ that they could be ░░░░░░░░ at the president and ░░░░░░░░ incitement that day Other ░░░░░░░░ who were involved not ░░░░░░░░ in the storming of ░░░░░░░░ Capitol but in the ░░░░░░░░ of it as well ░░░░░░░░ I have to point ░░░░░░░░ that Mitch McConnell s ░░░░░░░░ are partly disingenuous because ░░░░░░░░ constitutional remedy for a ░░░░░░░░ who violates his oath ░░░░░░░░ is basically what Mitch ░░░░░░░░ accused him of doing ░░░░░░░░ inciting this activity and ░░░░░░░░ not stopping it as ░░░░░░░░ day was going on ░░░░░░░░ constitutional remedy was impeachment ░░░░░░░░ So while there are ░░░░░░░░ charges available it really ░░░░░░░░ t absolve the Senate ░░░░░░░░ who failed to convict ░░░░░░░░ But of course you ░░░░░░░░ Mitch McConnell s earlier ░░░░░░░░ and that of other ░░░░░░░░ senators who still believe ░░░░░░░░ it was not constitutional ░░░░░░░░ try to go after ░░░░░░░░ former president even though ░░░░░░░░ body voted on it ░░░░░░░░ said it was a ░░░░░░░░ matter CORDERO Right they ░░░░░░░░ on it Once the ░░░░░░░░ voted on it that ░░░░░░░░ the end of that ░░░░░░░░ and they were supposed ░░░░░░░░ go forward That s ░░░░░░░░ somebody like senator burr ░░░░░░░░ they moved forward in ░░░░░░░░ procedural vote looked at ░░░░░░░░ merits of the case ░░░░░░░░ was what the senator ░░░░░░░░ job was to look ░░░░░░░░ the merits of the ░░░░░░░░ once they moved beyond ░░░░░░░░ procedure WHITFIELD And page ░░░░░░░░ the insurrection phone calls ░░░░░░░░ Georgia asking them to ░░░░░░░░ 11 789 votes and ░░░░░░░░ a separate phone call ░░░░░░░░ a phone call to ░░░░░░░░ officials What are the ░░░░░░░░ charges here PATE Well ░░░░░░░░ I think there is ░░░░░░░░ the potential for criminal ░░░░░░░░ in Fulton County for ░░░░░░░░ s phone call to ░░░░░░░░ secretary of state and ░░░░░░░░ people in that office ░░░░░░░░ district attorney in Fulton ░░░░░░░░ and someone I have ░░░░░░░░ personally for years She ░░░░░░░░ very smart she is ░░░░░░░░ aggressive and from what ░░░░░░░░ am able to tell ░░░░░░░░ is putting her foot ░░░░░░░░ the gas on this ░░░░░░░░ investigation Now the potential ░░░░░░░░ here is probably only ░░░░░░░░ misdemeanor There are rules ░░░░░░░░ solicitation of an election ░░░░░░░░ I think Trump was ░░░░░░░░ doing when he placed ░░░░░░░░ phone calls Find me ░░░░░░░░ extra votes That is ░░░░░░░░ request to an election ░░░░░░░░ to tamper with the ░░░░░░░░ and that is illegal ░░░░░░░░ Georgia It s a ░░░░░░░░ but it s still ░░░░░░░░ crime WHITFIELD And the ░░░░░░░░ incriminating evidence is the ░░░░░░░░ phone call that everyone ░░░░░░░░ to hear released from ░░░░░░░░ the secretary of state ░░░░░░░░ Georgia his office PATE ░░░░░░░░ and it s crystal ░░░░░░░░ The only other question ░░░░░░░░ of intent Was that ░░░░░░░░ political statement hey I ░░░░░░░░ you can find 11 ░░░░░░░░ votes or was he ░░░░░░░░ them to do something ░░░░░░░░ That will be a ░░░░░░░░ question If he does ░░░░░░░░ to charge it will ░░░░░░░░ a jury question WHITFIELD ░░░░░░░░ we have the civil ░░░░░░░░ in New York having ░░░░░░░░ do with the Trump ░░░░░░░░ This is a deal ░░░░░░░░ his state and federal ░░░░░░░░ returns could be released ░░░░░░░░ I think he does ░░░░░░░░ sufficient exposure when it ░░░░░░░░ to those cases in ░░░░░░░░ because those are investigations ░░░░░░░░ some of the conduct ░░░░░░░░ to do with his ░░░░░░░░ before he ever became ░░░░░░░░ So they ve had ░░░░░░░░ entire length of his ░░░░░░░░ to conduct those investigations ░░░░░░░░ wouldn t have brought ░░░░░░░░ while he was president ░░░░░░░░ but now that he ░░░░░░░░ a private citizen again ░░░░░░░░ much of those investigations ░░░░░░░░ to activity that he ░░░░░░░░ in prior to becoming ░░░░░░░░ I would expect that ░░░░░░░░ they have sufficient facts ░░░░░░░░ demonstrate they can move ░░░░░░░░ that they should be ░░░░░░░░ to do that now ░░░░░░░░ soon WHITFIELD And then ░░░░░░░░ there again are these ░░░░░░░░ lawsuits that were largely ░░░░░░░░ because the president was ░░░░░░░░ office now is he ░░░░░░░░ game Both of these ░░░░░░░░ we re talking about ░░░░░░░░ by women who accused ░░░░░░░░ of sexual assault Do ░░░░░░░░ expect these cases to ░░░░░░░░ able to move forward ░░░░░░░░ unlike they have been ░░░░░░░░ to before PATE Absolutely ░░░░░░░░ mean Trump now has ░░░░░░░░ defense that he can ░░░░░░░░ depositions are refuse to ░░░░░░░░ information in discovery Those ░░░░░░░░ will move forward just ░░░░░░░░ any other lawsuit against ░░░░░░░░ private individual And we ░░░░░░░░ know Trump is no ░░░░░░░░ to litigation so I ░░░░░░░░ certain he will be ░░░░░░░░ up so to speak ░░░░░░░░ he ll do what ░░░░░░░░ can to defend those ░░░░░░░░ but defamation is pretty ░░░░░░░░ as well If you ░░░░░░░░ a false statement about ░░░░░░░░ and you publish it ░░░░░░░░ put it out there ░░░░░░░░ re liable And the ░░░░░░░░ question becomes the amount ░░░░░░░░ damages WHITFIELD All right ░░░░░░░░ Pate Carrie Cordero we ░░░░░░░░ leave it there for ░░░░░░░░ Thank you so much ░░░░░░░░ Thank you.”