RUSH TRANSCRIPT Paul Now ░░░░░░░░ is still no time ░░░░░░░░ as to when President ░░░░░░░░ s second impeachment trial ░░░░░░░░ start House Speaker Nancy ░░░░░░░░ is expected to send ░░░░░░░░ lone impeachment partial to ░░░░░░░░ Senate next week Let ░░░░░░░░ talk to constitutional attorney ░░░░░░░░ Page Pate PATE Christi ░░░░░░░░ s up to the ░░░░░░░░ how they start the ░░░░░░░░ The trial has to ░░░░░░░░ but the Constitution does ░░░░░░░░ set any specific date ░░░░░░░░ time limit And it ░░░░░░░░ really up to the ░░░░░░░░ With the Senate changing ░░░░░░░░ and we re going ░░░░░░░░ have a new majority ░░░░░░░░ I know there s ░░░░░░░░ between the leadership that ░░░░░░░░ President Biden s agenda ░░░░░░░░ be fully addressed before ░░░░░░░░ get distracted by an ░░░░░░░░ trial So there s ░░░░░░░░ to be a lot ░░░░░░░░ back and forth perhaps ░░░░░░░░ re going to bifurcate ░░░░░░░░ Senate have part of ░░░░░░░░ listening on the trial ░░░░░░░░ of them listening on ░░░░░░░░ agenda It s going ░░░░░░░░ be one of the ░░░░░░░░ important issues that the ░░░░░░░░ Senate will face Paul ░░░░░░░░ the president s attorney ░░░░░░░░ and how much does ░░░░░░░░ hold is there truth ░░░░░░░░ that or a gray ░░░░░░░░ PATE There is a ░░░░░░░░ area Christi it s ░░░░░░░░ just deschowitz the Constitution ░░░░░░░░ up impeachment as pay ░░░░░░░░ to remove someone from ░░░░░░░░ The argument is pretty ░░░░░░░░ if the president is ░░░░░░░░ gone if his term ░░░░░░░░ already ended then you ░░░░░░░░ t impeach him he ░░░░░░░░ gone But really we ░░░░░░░░ seen impeachment used in ░░░░░░░░ past in our history ░░░░░░░░ people who have already ░░░░░░░░ office We ve already ░░░░░░░░ president impeached by the ░░░░░░░░ of Representatives So the ░░░░░░░░ thing that s remaining ░░░░░░░░ the trial So I ░░░░░░░░ the better argument and ░░░░░░░░ that s supported by ░░░░░░░░ is that you can ░░░░░░░░ an impeachment trial even ░░░░░░░░ the president has left ░░░░░░░░ Paul Based on precedent ░░░░░░░░ an ABC News Washington ░░░░░░░░ poll finds more than ░░░░░░░░ of America about 56 ░░░░░░░░ Americans who were polled ░░░░░░░░ feel that Congress needs ░░░░░░░░ remove Trump from office ░░░░░░░░ disqualify him from holding ░░░░░░░░ office in the future ░░░░░░░░ intention here at this ░░░░░░░░ now with only 4 ░░░░░░░░ 4 1 2 days ░░░░░░░░ go before inauguration day ░░░░░░░░ President Elect Biden comes ░░░░░░░░ any way it seems ░░░░░░░░ the intention is to ░░░░░░░░ sure he cannot run ░░░░░░░░ office again Is impeachment ░░░░░░░░ only avenue by which ░░░░░░░░ has to try to ░░░░░░░░ that to try to ░░░░░░░░ that PATE Yes it ░░░░░░░░ So I think impeachment ░░░░░░░░ important to disqualify Trump ░░░░░░░░ holding federal office again ░░░░░░░░ it s also important ░░░░░░░░ think to send a ░░░░░░░░ that Congress and the ░░░░░░░░ people will not tolerate ░░░░░░░░ kind of actions that ░░░░░░░░ Trump has been taking ░░░░░░░░ And really in the ░░░░░░░░ And needs to send ░░░░░░░░ message Because if impeachment ░░░░░░░░ going to mean anything ░░░░░░░░ Congress has to be ░░░░░░░░ to move forward courageously ░░░░░░░░ forward and impeach a ░░░░░░░░ who has broken the ░░░░░░░░ So I think it ░░░░░░░░ important for the disqualification ░░░░░░░░ also for the principle ░░░░░░░░ Paul Okay I want ░░░░░░░░ ask you before I ░░░░░░░░ you go about the ░░░░░░░░ of self pardons here ░░░░░░░░ president still has four ░░░░░░░░ to make this happen ░░░░░░░░ get this pick in ░░░░░░░░ head of the president ░░░░░░░░ going to the Oval ░░░░░░░░ and signing it and ░░░░░░░░ oh All right it ░░░░░░░░ done that s it ░░░░░░░░ m wondering what constitutional ░░░░░░░░ are there are in ░░░░░░░░ to guide the validity ░░░░░░░░ the lack thereof of ░░░░░░░░ happening PATE Nothing I ░░░░░░░░ that s the short ░░░░░░░░ Nobody can stop President ░░░░░░░░ from pardoning himself The ░░░░░░░░ becomes will that pardon ░░░░░░░░ enforceable And that s ░░░░░░░░ to be a tough ░░░░░░░░ not just legally but ░░░░░░░░ Will a Biden Administration ░░░░░░░░ to take the politically ░░░░░░░░ step of trying to ░░░░░░░░ a former President Trump ░░░░░░░░ don t think they ░░░░░░░░ going to do that ░░░░░░░░ given the distractions and ░░░░░░░░ uncertainty but I do ░░░░░░░░ if Trump pardons himself ░░░░░░░░ will make it more ░░░░░░░░ he s prosecuted not ░░░░░░░░ Because then I think ░░░░░░░░ Biden Administration will feel ░░░░░░░░ necessity to challenge the ░░░░░░░░ that a president can ░░░░░░░░ himself and make himself ░░░░░░░░ the law So I ░░░░░░░░ if he tries to ░░░░░░░░ pardon he s more ░░░░░░░░ to get prosecuted not ░░░░░░░░ Paul All right And ░░░░░░░░ a precedent any way ░░░░░░░░ goes Page Pate we ░░░░░░░░ you so much thank ░░░░░░░░ PATE: “Thank you Christi.”