Don Lemon to Angela Rye: ‘Defund the Police’ Slogan Lost Dem Congressional Seats

RUSH TRANSCRIPT Political commentators ░░░░░░░░ Rye and Karen fenny ░░░░░░░░ think this is conversation ░░░░░░░░ ve had on the ░░░░░░░░ and over texts So ░░░░░░░░ is Barack Obama right ░░░░░░░░ defund the police a ░░░░░░░░ that turns voters away ░░░░░░░░ don t care I ░░░░░░░░ it s a conversation ░░░░░░░░ needs to be had ░░░░░░░░ what I would say ░░░░░░░░ I think the moment ░░░░░░░░ we begin to ask ░░░░░░░░ to account for and ░░░░░░░░ opine on rhetoric of ░░░░░░░░ activist community is the ░░░░░░░░ that we walk into ░░░░░░░░ trouble Nobody consulted Lyndon ░░░░░░░░ Johnson on whether or ░░░░░░░░ what Dr King was ░░░░░░░░ was appropriate or if ░░░░░░░░ would work or whether ░░░░░░░░ not it would turn ░░░░░░░░ Democratic voters I think ░░░░░░░░ real question we need ░░░░░░░░ be asking is something ░░░░░░░░ that was talked about ░░░░░░░░ that interview and it ░░░░░░░░ why we haven t ░░░░░░░░ space for younger voices ░░░░░░░░ know how to appeal ░░░░░░░░ the very audiences who ░░░░░░░░ out all summer long ░░░░░░░░ the George Floyd What ░░░░░░░░ have to wrestle with ░░░░░░░░ the Democratic Party is ░░░░░░░░ or not incrementalism has ░░░░░░░░ us and whether or ░░░░░░░░ that s resulted in ░░░░░░░░ saving of more black ░░░░░░░░ and I would argue ░░░░░░░░ has not I think ░░░░░░░░ s a good argument ░░░░░░░░ incrementalism But what you ░░░░░░░░ something like defund the ░░░░░░░░ Angela it s not ░░░░░░░░ winning strategy I know ░░░░░░░░ said you don t ░░░░░░░░ But as an activist ░░░░░░░░ t you care Because ░░░░░░░░ slogan lost seats It ░░░░░░░░ Democrats It actually it ░░░░░░░░ didn t I know ░░░░░░░░ s a talking point ░░░░░░░░ Progressives like to say ░░░░░░░░ m not espousing a ░░░░░░░░ point I m relying ░░░░░░░░ data What you ll ░░░░░░░░ I know you re ░░░░░░░░ to talk about the ░░░░░░░░ Go on but I ░░░░░░░░ the data I agree ░░░░░░░░ her on that one ░░░░░░░░ data you re talking ░░░░░░░░ is something I know ░░░░░░░░ like to hold on ░░░░░░░░ and say it s ░░░░░░░░ data The overall election ░░░░░░░░ s a small number ░░░░░░░░ Progressives who ran on ░░░░░░░░ Progressive parts of the ░░░░░░░░ ticket one held their ░░░░░░░░ But for the most ░░░░░░░░ Democrats who ran on ░░░░░░░░ the police Who were ░░░░░░░░ And calling socialism they ░░░░░░░░ Who were they Democrats ░░░░░░░░ across the board The ░░░░░░░░ Democrats that won was ░░░░░░░░ No no Wait a ░░░░░░░░ Wait a second That ░░░░░░░░ not true First of ░░░░░░░░ Karen I ll let ░░░░░░░░ hop in One I ░░░░░░░░ I don t get ░░░░░░░░ trouble for saying this ░░░░░░░░ is not a democratic ░░░░░░░░ point What I m ░░░░░░░░ is the CD C ░░░░░░░░ in concert with the ░░░░░░░░ C CC actually held ░░░░░░░░ call and talked about ░░░░░░░░ just defund the police ░░░░░░░░ around police reform period ░░░░░░░░ the George Floyd justice ░░░░░░░░ policing act and what ░░░░░░░░ saw was people were ░░░░░░░░ interested in those reforms ░░░░░░░░ point is that we ░░░░░░░░ not be in the ░░░░░░░░ of trying to shift ░░░░░░░░ an activist message frame ░░░░░░░░ to get people to ░░░░░░░░ streets to ensure real ░░░░░░░░ in communities In fact ░░░░░░░░ you look at what ░░░░░░░░ in communities where policing ░░░░░░░░ actually take place on ░░░░░░░░ local and state level ░░░░░░░░ actually were several police ░░░░░░░░ that were shifted There ░░░░░░░░ were several conversations and ░░░░░░░░ council votes that were ░░░░░░░░ So I think to ░░░░░░░░