2016

GUTHRIE Now in the ░░░░░░░░ to become the next ░░░░░░░░ Republican Senator Rand Paul ░░░░░░░░ his campaign on Tuesday ░░░░░░░░ a fiery speech in ░░░░░░░░ home state of Kentucky ░░░░░░░░ s three quick facts ░░░░░░░░ know about Senator Paul ░░░░░░░░ is an eye doctor ░░░░░░░░ practices medicine performing pro ░░░░░░░░ surgeries in recent years ░░░░░░░░ father is former Congressman ░░░░░░░░ Paul You know him ░░░░░░░░ he ran for president ░░░░░░░░ times and he was ░░░░░░░░ Randy as a child ░░░░░░░░ it was his wife ░░░░░░░░ shortened his name to ░░░░░░░░ and Senator Rand Paul ░░░░░░░░ already on the campaign ░░░░░░░░ with us joining us ░░░░░░░░ from New Hampshire this ░░░░░░░░ Senator good morning Good ░░░░░░░░ see you PAUL Good ░░░░░░░░ Thanks for having me ░░░░░░░░ It s official You ░░░░░░░░ running for president but ░░░░░░░░ who have watched too ░░░░░░░░ have seen you kind ░░░░░░░░ laying the ground work ░░░░░░░░ this for years You ░░░░░░░░ been in office about ░░░░░░░░ years Was higher office ░░░░░░░░ presidency always the master ░░░░░░░░ for you PAUL You ░░░░░░░░ it s kind of ░░░░░░░░ You will meet people ░░░░░░░░ are running for president ░░░░░░░░ their friends will say ░░░░░░░░ in eighth grade he ░░░░░░░░ he was going to ░░░░░░░░ for president I guess ░░░░░░░░ I grew up I ░░░░░░░░ up a more normally ░░░░░░░░ I was concerned about ░░░░░░░░ know playing football running ░░░░░░░░ being on the swimming ░░░░░░░░ academics reading but never ░░░░░░░░ thought about it And ░░░░░░░░ once I launched my ░░░░░░░░ I spent a lot ░░░░░░░░ time many many years ░░░░░░░░ an eye surgeon so ░░░░░░░░ never really thought of ░░░░░░░░ In the back of ░░░░░░░░ mind I thought I ░░░░░░░░ run for an office ░░░░░░░░ but never would I ░░░░░░░░ there would be a ░░░░░░░░ of events that would ░░░░░░░░ forward that would allow ░░░░░░░░ to But I do ░░░░░░░░ that the message I ░░░░░░░░ to offer is a ░░░░░░░░ one and I think ░░░░░░░░ is resonating GUTHRIE Well ░░░░░░░░ you are You are ░░░░░░░░ officially a candidate So ░░░░░░░░ me ask you about ░░░░░░░░ items on the news ░░░░░░░░ deal with Iran this ░░░░░░░░ deal and whether or ░░░░░░░░ you support it If ░░░░░░░░ were written in black ░░░░░░░░ white exactly as President ░░░░░░░░ has described it and ░░░░░░░░ Iranians agreed to it ░░░░░░░░ as it has been ░░░░░░░░ is it a good ░░░░░░░░ and would you support ░░░░░░░░ PAUL I think that ░░░░░░░░ part of the problem ░░░░░░░░ Iranian foreign minister immediately ░░░░░░░░ out writing in English ░░░░░░░░ that it meant something ░░░░░░░░ different than what the ░░░░░░░░ what President Obama said ░░░░░░░░ GUTHRIE But let s ░░░░░░░░ say let s take ░░░░░░░░ issue off the table ░░░░░░░░ Let me answer the ░░░░░░░░ Let me answer the ░░░░░░░░ The sincerity of the ░░░░░░░░ does makes a big ░░░░░░░░ And if they are ░░░░░░░░ saying that the agreement ░░░░░░░░ t mean what President ░░░░░░░░ says that is a ░░░░░░░░ problem The other thing ░░░░░░░░ so far we have ░░░░░░░░ the fact sheets The ░░░░░░░░ put out 500 words ░░░░░░░░ Americans put out 1 ░░░░░░░░ words Europeans put out ░░░░░░░░ words and they don ░░░░░░░░ all seem to agree ░░░░░░░░ what is very very ░░░░░░░░ information so far I ░░░░░░░░ going to keep an ░░░░░░░░ mind and look at ░░░░░░░░ agreement I do believe ░░░░░░░░ negotiation is better than ░░░░░░░░ I have been a ░░░░░░░░ proponent of negotiation but ░░░░░░░░ also say that the ░░░░░░░░ is very specific in ░░░░░░░░ I voted to put ░░░░░░░░ on Iran Sanctions can ░░░░░░░░ be relieved by Congress ░░░░░░░░ to remove those So ░░░░░░░░ s why I have ░░░░░░░░ on to the Corker ░░░░░░░░ which would actually say ░░░░░░░░ any kind of permanent ░░░░░░░░ or relief from sanctions ░░░░░░░░ to be voted on ░░░░░░░░ Congress GUTHRIE You have ░░░░░░░░ views in the past ░░░░░░░░ foreign policy that are ░░░░░░░░ unorthodox but you seem ░░░░░░░░ have changed over the ░░░░░░░░ You once said Iran ░░░░░░░░ not a threat now ░░░░░░░░ say it is You ░░░░░░░░ proposed ending foreign aid ░░░░░░░░ Israel you now support ░░░░░░░░ at least for the ░░░░░░░░ being and you once ░░░░░░░░ to draft PAUUL Before ░░░░░░░░ go to the Crosstalk ░░░░░░░░ Wait wait wait And ░░░░░░░░ once drastically wanted to ░░░░░░░░ defense spending And now ░░░░░░░░ want to increase it ░░░░░░░░ percent So I just ░░░░░░░░ if you mellowed out ░░░░░░░░ PAUL Why don t ░░░░░░░░ let me explain instead ░░░░░░░░ talking over me OK ░░░░░░░░ Sure PAUL Before we ░░░░░░░░ to a litany of ░░░░░░░░ you say I changed ░░░░░░░░ why don t you ░░░░░░░░ me a question How ░░░░░░░░ I changed my opinion ░░░░░░░░ How did you changed ░░░░░░░░ opinion PAUL That s ░░░░░░░░ better way to approach ░░░░░░░░ OK Is Iran still ░░░░░░░░ a threat crosstalk PAUL ░░░░░░░░ no no Listen You ░░░░░░░░ editorialized Let me answer ░░░░░░░░ question GUTHRIE OK PAUL ░░░░░░░░ ask a question and ░░░░░░░░ say have your views ░░░░░░░░ instead of editorializing and ░░░░░░░░ my views have changed ░░░░░░░░ Let s start out ░░░░░░░░ regard to foreign aid ░░░░░░░░ opinion has always been ░░░░░░░░ we shouldn t borrow ░░░░░░░░ from China to send ░░░░░░░░ to any country Pakistan ░░░░░░░░ or any other country ░░░░░░░░ I also realized that ░░░░░░░░ will have to be ░░░░░░░░ gradually and that if ░░░░░░░░ are going to try ░░░░░░░░ eliminate or reduce foreign ░░░░░░░░ we will start with ░░░░░░░░ countries that hate us ░░░░░░░░ burn our flag And ░░░░░░░░ thing that is true ░░░░░░░░ that Israel doesn t ░░░░░░░░ out flag and so ░░░░░░░░ haven t proposed removing ░░░░░░░░ from Israel but I ░░░░░░░░ agree crosstalk GUTHRIE But ░░░░░░░░ once did PAUL Let ░░░░░░░░ answer the question I ░░░░░░░░ agree with my original ░░░░░░░░ from years ago that ░░░░░░░░ all nations should be ░░░░░░░░ of foreign aid because ░░░░░░░░ shouldn t borrow money ░░░░░░░░ do it But my ░░░░░░░░ is not any different ░░░░░░░░ Netanyahu s opinion When ░░░░░░░░ came before joint session ░░░░░░░░ Congress in 1996 he ░░░░░░░░ you know what eventually ░░░░░░░░ also be independent of ░░░░░░░░ and in Israel s ░░░░░░░░ may be stronger because ░░░░░░░░ they wouldn t be ░░░░░░░░ to buy defense products ░░░░░░░░ outside the country GUTHRIE ░░░░░░░░ you still think Iran ░░░░░░░░ not a threat as ░░░░░░░░ said in 2007 PAUL ░░░░░░░░ 2007 was a long ░░░░░░░░ ago and events do ░░░░░░░░ ever long periods of ░░░░░░░░ So we are talking ░░░░░░░░ eight years ago we ░░░░░░░░ talking the time when ░░░░░░░░ was not running for ░░░░░░░░ and I was helping ░░░░░░░░ else run for office ░░░░░░░░ I would say is ░░░░░░░░ has always been a ░░░░░░░░ of Iran gaining nuclear ░░░░░░░░ and I think that ░░░░░░░░ greater now than it ░░░░░░░░ many years ago I ░░░░░░░░ we should do everything ░░░░░░░░ can to stop them ░░░░░░░░ voted for sanctions to ░░░░░░░░ to stop them and ░░░░░░░░ am somewhat skeptical of ░░░░░░░░ president s agreement However ░░░░░░░░ am in favor of ░░░░░░░░ over war I think ░░░░░░░░ have been one of ░░░░░░░░ reasonable people in our ░░░░░░░░ who has not been ░░░░░░░░ the drums for war ░░░░░░░░ I think my position ░░░░░░░░ Iran is one that ░░░░░░░░ the events and reflects ░░░░░░░░ current history GUTHRIE Before ░░░░░░░░ let you go the ░░░░░░░░ I was getting at ░░░░░░░░ general is just that ░░░░░░░░ you came to Washington ░░░░░░░░ realized I am going ░░░░░░░░ run for president have ░░░░░░░░ mellowed or tempered your ░░░░░░░░ at all PAUL I ░░░░░░░░ what I ve understood ░░░░░░░░ I came to Washington ░░░░░░░░ that Washington is horribly ░░░░░░░░ and we have to ░░░░░░░░ to fix it I ░░░░░░░░ the deficit goes on ░░░░░░░░ Republicans or Democrats are ░░░░░░░░ charge and indecipherable and ░░░░░░░░ it s the fault ░░░░░░░░ one party or the ░░░░░░░░ I think there is ░░░░░░░░ blame to go around ░░░░░░░░ what I have come ░░░░░░░░ the conclusion is that ░░░░░░░░ need more turn over ░░░░░░░░ m a big fan ░░░░░░░░ term limits I think ░░░░░░░░ will only improve when ░░░░░░░░ have term limits and ░░░░░░░░ have rules such as ░░░░░░░░ balanced budget which force ░░░░░░░░ to do the job ░░░░░░░░ seem to be incapable ░░░░░░░░ doing GUTHRIE Senator Rand ░░░░░░░░ Look forward to talking ░░░░░░░░ you in the future ░░░░░░░░ you for your time ░░░░░░░░ morning I appreciate it ░░░░░░░░ Thank you.”