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Renato Mariotti Appears on MSNBC Live To Discuss Trump’s Arpaio Pardon
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MSNBC Live

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Thomas Roberts

Name: Thomas Roberts

Employment: MSNBC

Position: Anchor

, Victoria DeFrancesco Soto

Name: Victoria DeFrancesco Soto

Employment: University of Texas

Position: Political Analyst, Fellow

, Daniel Lippman

Name: Daniel Lippman

, Renato Mariotti

Name: Renato Mariotti

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08/26/2017 09:30 pm
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RUSH TRANSCRIPT Was sheriff ░░░░░░░░ convicted for doing his ░░░░░░░░ He should have had ░░░░░░░░ jury but I predict ░░░░░░░░ ll be just fine ░░░░░░░░ There we have President ░░░░░░░░ tweeting a decision late ░░░░░░░░ night a pardon for ░░░░░░░░ sheriff Joe arpaio The ░░░░░░░░ Post reported that the ░░░░░░░░ spoke with Jeff Sessions ░░░░░░░░ in the spring about ░░░░░░░░ the government case against ░░░░░░░░ altogether before he was ░░░░░░░░ That conviction coming July ░░░░░░░░ And here was arpaio ░░░░░░░░ attorney about why he ░░░░░░░░ accept the pardon and ░░░░░░░░ fight an appeal of ░░░░░░░░ conviction When a pardon ░░░░░░░░ at this point in ░░░░░░░░ case it undoes the ░░░░░░░░ of the conviction It ░░░░░░░░ just like if the ░░░░░░░░ dies in the middle ░░░░░░░░ the case it basically ░░░░░░░░ out the case meaning ░░░░░░░░ he was never convicted ░░░░░░░░ s the effect of ░░░░░░░░ pardon here He s ░░░░░░░░ guilty in the eyes ░░░░░░░░ the law as a ░░░░░░░░ of this pardon At ░░░░░░░░ end of the day ░░░░░░░░ s a part of ░░░░░░░░ system and a constitutional ░░░░░░░░ and the president has ░░░░░░░░ following this case and ░░░░░░░░ never believed it was ░░░░░░░░ to prosecute the sheriff ░░░░░░░░ and reynado The Washington ░░░░░░░░ is detailing in the ░░░░░░░░ that the president met ░░░░░░░░ the attorney general to ░░░░░░░░ to get the case ░░░░░░░░ And then we have ░░░░░░░░ being convicted 26 days ░░░░░░░░ and accepting the pardon ░░░░░░░░ a former prosecutor does ░░░░░░░░ pass the judicial smell ░░░░░░░░ Wow Well I don ░░░░░░░░ know about the smell ░░░░░░░░ What I ll say ░░░░░░░░ this I think the ░░░░░░░░ by the president or ░░░░░░░░ reported attempt by the ░░░░░░░░ to kill off the ░░░░░░░░ investigation is the most ░░░░░░░░ piece of obstruction evidence ░░░░░░░░ has come out since ░░░░░░░░ Comey testimony There is ░░░░░░░░ question and I was ░░░░░░░░ it just moments ago ░░░░░░░░ Twitter at length there ░░░░░░░░ no question that Mueller ░░░░░░░░ his team are going ░░░░░░░░ be looking at that ░░░░░░░░ closely Because it s ░░░░░░░░ data point It s ░░░░░░░░ that a pattern of ░░░░░░░░ so everything he told ░░░░░░░░ and sessions told him ░░░░░░░░ s going to be ░░░░░░░░ at by Mueller and ░░░░░░░░ team to determine what ░░░░░░░░ knew et cetera We ░░░░░░░░ that this question dates ░░░░░░░░ to the spring the ░░░░░░░░ House watched this play ░░░░░░░░ the White House counsel ░░░░░░░░ out according to The ░░░░░░░░ Post to find out ░░░░░░░░ his legal team would ░░░░░░░░ him to accept this ░░░░░░░░ And when it comes ░░░░░░░░ Mike Flynn and seeing ░░░░░░░░ he can let it ░░░░░░░░ is this kind of ░░░░░░░░ to that Yeah definitely ░░░░░░░░ s a good point ░░░░░░░░ doesn t seem like ░░░░░░░░ Trump understands the traditions ░░░░░░░░ how federal investigations work ░░░░░░░░ means when you re ░░░░░░░░ president you can t ░░░░░░░░ call up the attorney ░░░░░░░░ and say hey can ░░░░░░░░ let this go of ░░░░░░░░ federal investigation If Barack ░░░░░░░░ did that a few ░░░░░░░░ ago with some of ░░░░░░░░ supporters in the states ░░░░░░░░ a Fox News on ░░░░░░░░ right would have lit ░░░░░░░░ up They would have ░░░░░░░░ this is an abuse ░░░░░░░░ power And so because ░░░░░░░░ didn t do didn ░░░░░░░░ drop the charges then ░░░░░░░░ he knew that would ░░░░░░░░ a bigger problem for ░░░░░░░░ a few months ago ░░░░░░░░ know now we re ░░░░░░░░ this point where he ░░░░░░░░ did something that s ░░░░░░░░ although when Speaker Ryan ░░░░░░░░ criticizing something that Trump ░░░░░░░░ for a fellow Republican ░░░░░░░░ means there isn t ░░░░░░░░ ton of support for ░░░░░░░░ Trump did yesterday So ░░░░░░░░ we know obviously former ░░░░░░░░ as recent history demonstrates ░░░░░░░░ President Obama and bush ░░░░░░░░ gave pardons It was ░░░░░░░░ two years into their ░░░░░░░░ David frohm said it ░░░░░░░░ from minor offenses and ░░░░░░░░ not involve law enforcement ░░░░░░░░ convicted of crimes against ░░░░░░░░ whom people they had ░░░░░░░░ So specifically for Latino ░░░░░░░░ what kind of signal ░░░░░░░░ message do you think ░░░░░░░░ is going to send ░░░░░░░░ of the racial turmoil ░░░░░░░░ seem to be in ░░░░░░░░ now just on the ░░░░░░░░ of Charlottesville Exactly So ░░░░░░░░ think over the past ░░░░░░░░ of days Thomas what ░░░░░░░░ ve been seeing is ░░░░░░░░ Trump return to the ░░░░░░░░ issue of immigration That ░░░░░░░░ what launched his campaign ░░░░░░░░ that is what shored ░░░░░░░░ the support for him ░░░░░░░░ the White House We ░░░░░░░░ his rally a couple ░░░░░░░░ days ago in Phoenix ░░░░░░░░ s a lot of ░░░░░░░░ that DACA the deferred ░░░░░░░░ program for dreamers is ░░░░░░░░ to be taken away ░░░░░░░░ of a shutdown if ░░░░░░░░ isn t given for ░░░░░░░░ wall So I think ░░░░░░░░ fits that larger pattern ░░░░░░░░ him digging in his ░░░░░░░░ Maybe he s threatened ░░░░░░░░ because of the Mueller ░░░░░░░░ because of Russia And ░░░░░░░░ is his safe space ░░░░░░░░ He knows that he ░░░░░░░░ hunker down on immigration ░░░░░░░░ we know that it ░░░░░░░░ t matter what the ░░░░░░░░ population he didn t ░░░░░░░░ the election based on ░░░░░░░░ Latino vote and he ░░░░░░░░ he doesn t need ░░░░░░░░ cater to them We ░░░░░░░░ that arpaio has called ░░░░░░░░ former sheriff because he ░░░░░░░░ re election True And ░░░░░░░░ this conviction So the ░░░░░░░░ there certainly within Arizona ░░░░░░░░ within where arpaio was ░░░░░░░░ in maricopa county they ░░░░░░░░ loudly The reaction of ░░░░░░░░ former sheriff last night ░░░░░░░░ speaking to the Arizona ░░░░░░░░ Take a look So ░░░░░░░░ back would you have ░░░░░░░░ anything differently with these ░░░░░░░░ sweeps No My guys ░░░░░░░░ nothing wrong and I ░░░░░░░░ t do anything wrong ░░░░░░░░ I hoped with the ░░░░░░░░ of my attorney we ░░░░░░░░ outline that at a ░░░░░░░░ conference All right So ░░░░░░░░ know that a press ░░░░░░░░ is coming up We ░░░░░░░░ had Jack on moments ░░░░░░░░ talking about the sheriff ░░░░░░░░ a press availability coming ░░░░░░░░ But danie there is ░░░░░░░░ lack of remorse here ░░░░░░░░ attorney was laying out ░░░░░░░░ there wasn t just ░░░░░░░░ pardon but there is ░░░░░░░░ stemming out from another ░░░░░░░░ that will keep the ░░░░░░░░ sheriff in a bubble ░░░░░░░░ any type of judicial ░░░░░░░░ Yeah Usually when you ░░░░░░░░ a pardon the person ░░░░░░░░ is getting pardoned the ░░░░░░░░ as they are known ░░░░░░░░ is supposed to show ░░░░░░░░ You re supposed to ░░░░░░░░ a formal application to ░░░░░░░░ Department of Justice laying ░░░░░░░░ why you should get ░░░░░░░░ pardon from the president ░░░░░░░░ yet there was no ░░░░░░░░ you know plea by ░░░░░░░░ to you know get ░░░░░░░░ pardon And you know ░░░░░░░░ attorney has said that ░░░░░░░░ is you know they ░░░░░░░░ t understand how to ░░░░░░░░ the you know the ░░░░░░░░ saying the sheriff couldn ░░░░░░░░ just round up Latinos ░░░░░░░░ there was 18 months ░░░░░░░░ when they were rounding ░░░░░░░░ Latinos even though they ░░░░░░░░ ordered not to So ░░░░░░░░ s the case There ░░░░░░░░ no other sheriffs in ░░░░░░░░ case who did not ░░░░░░░░ follow it and who ░░░░░░░░ charged That raises a ░░░░░░░░ of you know this ░░░░░░░░ seem like a deliberate ░░░░░░░░ by arpaio to circumvent ░░░░░░░░ law that led to ░░░░░░░░ criminal investigation So do ░░░░░░░░ think there will be ░░░░░░░░ domino effect as pointed ░░░░░░░░ there Obviously this is ░░░░░░░░ special case We have ░░░░░░░░ who definitely craved cameras ░░░░░░░░ will do so again ░░░░░░░░ you think this will ░░░░░░░░ a domino effect for ░░░░░░░░ caught up in the ░░░░░░░░ type of consequences or ░░░░░░░░ against their jurisdictions against ░░░░░░░░ They are going to ░░░░░░░░ respect for the law ░░░░░░░░ among the president s ░░░░░░░░ and associates I mean ░░░░░░░░ heard that attorney just ░░░░░░░░ moment ago He said ░░░░░░░░ client did nothing wrong ░░░░░░░░ his client literally disobeyed ░░░░░░░░ court order egg geej ░░░░░░░░ and said now he ░░░░░░░░ not guilty I hate ░░░░░░░░ break it to you ░░░░░░░░ you accept a pardon ░░░░░░░░ re saying that you ░░░░░░░░ guilty and yet what ░░░░░░░░ going on is this ░░░░░░░░ is against the law ░░░░░░░░ this is not how ░░░░░░░░ s supposed to zork ░░░░░░░░ as a professor and ░░░░░░░░ to train future legal ░░░░░░░░ do you tell students ░░░░░░░░ a pardon is an ░░░░░░░░ of guilt Yes There ░░░░░░░░ a question of the ░░░░░░░░ of it and the ░░░░░░░░ was within his purview ░░░░░░░░ doing that but then ░░░░░░░░ precedent does this set ░░░░░░░░ other sheriffs across the ░░░░░░░░ for other lawmakers All ░░░░░░░░ I m not going ░░░░░░░░ turn you into a ░░░░░░░░ reporter although I see ░░░░░░░░ rain behind you there ░░░░░░░░ we ll save that ░░░░░░░░ later I appreciate it ░░░░░░░░ you very much Appreciate ░░░░░░░░
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