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Miri Eisin Appears on ‘José Díaz-Balart Reports’ To Discuss Hostage Deal
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José Díaz-Balart Reports

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José Díaz-Balart

Name: José Díaz-Balart

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, Miri Eisin

Name: Miri Eisin

Employment: Women In International Security Israel

Position: Board Member

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RUSH TRANSCRIPT Forces Raf ░░░░░░░░ and Courtney Kube thank ░░░░░░░░ so very much Appreciate ░░░░░░░░ Eisen managing director at ░░░░░░░░ national institute for count ░░░░░░░░ Christopher o leary former ░░░░░░░░ of hostage recovery for ░░░░░░░░ United States government How ░░░░░░░░ you see this deal ░░░░░░░░ carried out and what ░░░░░░░░ it mean for Israel ░░░░░░░░ operations in Gaza Bittersweet ░░░░░░░░ all want to see ░░░░░░░░ of the hostages and ░░░░░░░░ described that You need ░░░░░░░░ understand in Israel we ░░░░░░░░ less than 10 million ░░░░░░░░ there are 240 hostages ░░░░░░░░ families don t know ░░░░░░░░ is coming tomorrow This ░░░░░░░░ a photo op a ░░░░░░░░ cynical one for Hamas ░░░░░░░░ never have said who ░░░░░░░░ being led out So ░░░░░░░░ that sense tomorrow is ░░░░░░░░ that we all want ░░░░░░░░ see we re waiting ░░░░░░░░ see who is going ░░░░░░░░ come through When we ░░░░░░░░ at it right now ░░░░░░░░ talk about the ground ░░░░░░░░ you mentioned that the ░░░░░░░░ that there are still ░░░░░░░░ different attacks inside the ░░░░░░░░ Strip The pause only ░░░░░░░░ tomorrow It hasn t ░░░░░░░░ already One of the ░░░░░░░░ that Hamas agreed to ░░░░░░░░ exchange and it is ░░░░░░░░ exchange they were not ░░░░░░░░ to just let out ░░░░░░░░ hostages themselves one of ░░░░░░░░ reasons they agreed is ░░░░░░░░ they are under pressure ░░░░░░░░ to stop that pressure ░░░░░░░░ to enable and strengthen ░░░░░░░░ and there is always ░░░░░░░░ to be that tipping ░░░░░░░░ when you are in ░░░░░░░░ kind of a situation ░░░░░░░░ you don t want ░░░░░░░░ give Hamas the benefit ░░░░░░░░ if you don t ░░░░░░░░ re not going to ░░░░░░░░ back your hostages So ░░░░░░░░ just want to see ░░░░░░░░ which babies which children ░░░░░░░░ going to be coming ░░░░░░░░ and those first 10 ░░░░░░░░ Described how carefully choreographied ░░░░░░░░ exchange will have to ░░░░░░░░ over the next couple ░░░░░░░░ days with a number ░░░░░░░░ hostages and prisoners released ░░░░░░░░ day Talk to me ░░░░░░░░ the potential hurdles in ░░░░░░░░ it this way Example ░░░░░░░░ s as complicated You ░░░░░░░░ in Gaza where it ░░░░░░░░ an active war zone ░░░░░░░░ is going to likely ░░░░░░░░ involved in it the ░░░░░░░░ Cross is going to ░░░░░░░░ involved in escort the ░░░░░░░░ out But Hamas is ░░░░░░░░ terrorist organization Icrc doesn ░░░░░░░░ normally get involved in ░░░░░░░░ kind of situations So ░░░░░░░░ is kind of new ░░░░░░░░ that is being you ░░░░░░░░ explored here I do ░░░░░░░░ agree with the colonel ░░░░░░░░ is a photo opportunity ░░░░░░░░ Hamas This is an ░░░░░░░░ tactic Hostage taking is ░░░░░░░░ tried and true tactic ░░░░░░░░ terrorist organizations they re ░░░░░░░░ this to buy time ░░░░░░░░ re doing this for ░░░░░░░░ They re not doing ░░░░░░░░ out of the goodness ░░░░░░░░ their hearts And I ░░░░░░░░ be skeptical to think ░░░░░░░░ like Israel s putting ░░░░░░░░ that that this will ░░░░░░░░ past the four day ░░░░░░░░ because Hamas needs to ░░░░░░░░ time long past this ░░░░░░░░ There will be probably ░░░░░░░░ a little pause another ░░░░░░░░ of sick elderly wounded ░░░░░░░░ And then you know ░░░░░░░░ ll continue to you ░░░░░░░░ move through the process ░░░░░░░░ for the IDF soldiers ░░░░░░░░ could be a long ░░░░░░░░ if they re hostages ░░░░░░░░ Hamas on the 7th ░░░░░░░░ October carries out this ░░░░░░░░ massacre in Israel more ░░░░░░░░ 1200 men women and ░░░░░░░░ killed the 3 year ░░░░░░░░ little girl among so ░░░░░░░░ other people taken from ░░░░░░░░ homes and shipped over ░░░░░░░░ Gaza so they do ░░░░░░░░ they film that and ░░░░░░░░ they re getting those ░░░░░░░░ back to Israel and ░░░░░░░░ re getting 150 people ░░░░░░░░ we re talking about ░░░░░░░░ and saying children many ░░░░░░░░ them are 17 and ░░░░░░░░ year olds who have ░░░░░░░░ involved in other things ░░░░░░░░ either Israel or the ░░░░░░░░ Bank Is Hamas getting ░░░░░░░░ they planned for You ░░░░░░░░ ask is what were ░░░░░░░░ planning for In this ░░░░░░░░ I m going to ░░░░░░░░ at them as a ░░░░░░░░ hybrid organization They never ░░░░░░░░ us they took women ░░░░░░░░ children What they have ░░░░░░░░ telling themselves what they ░░░░░░░░ been saying in Arabic ░░░░░░░░ they have been saying ░░░░░░░░ the Muslim world is ░░░░░░░░ they took soldiers this ░░░░░░░░ a military attack when ░░░░░░░░ see children coming over ░░░░░░░░ for the first time ░░░░░░░░ will be them actually ░░░░░░░░ that they did take ░░░░░░░░ They re trying to ░░░░░░░░ it in a moral ░░░░░░░░ which I abhor It ░░░░░░░░ horrible What are you ░░░░░░░░ what am I saying ░░░░░░░░ and children women and ░░░░░░░░ No no no the ░░░░░░░░ who were arrested in ░░░░░░░░ the minors who were ░░░░░░░░ in Israel who did ░░░░░░░░ and terror attacks and ░░░░░░░░ and they were arrested ░░░░░░░░ they were put on ░░░░░░░░ and they were sentenced ░░░░░░░░ they were put in ░░░░░░░░ in response for the ░░░░░░░░ attack of October 7th ░░░░░░░░ people were taken and ░░░░░░░░ just want to add ░░░░░░░░ that there are two ░░░░░░░░ there that their parents ░░░░░░░░ murdered in front of ░░░░░░░░ and they were taken ░░░░░░░░ what do you say ░░░░░░░░ these two little kids ░░░░░░░░ they come back how ░░░░░░░░ you start that conversation ░░░░░░░░ whole aspect of what ░░░░░░░░ is doing they re ░░░░░░░░ what terror organizations do ░░░░░░░░ is the reason that ░░░░░░░░ taking for them is ░░░░░░░░ modus operandi they like ░░░░░░░░ is the reason we ░░░░░░░░ to defend ourselves against ░░░░░░░░ a way It is ░░░░░░░░ horrible Issues like this ░░░░░░░░ back to the my ░░░░░░░░ in a way in ░░░░░░░░ warped logic this is ░░░░░░░░ of what they want ░░░░░░░░ and you said it ░░░░░░░░ was written that they ░░░░░░░░ going to let out ░░░░░░░░ and children and you ░░░░░░░░ in the slide 150 ░░░░░░░░ and after you wrote ░░░░░░░░ 150 prisoners you said ░░░░░░░░ and children For me ░░░░░░░░ want to say very ░░░░░░░░ the 150 sentenced women ░░░░░░░░ minors who did terror ░░░░░░░░ are being led out ░░░░░░░░ we need to bring ░░░░░░░░ the women and children ░░░░░░░░ is very tough to ░░░░░░░░ so Most definitely in ░░░░░░░░ broader sense let alone ░░░░░░░░ what we re just ░░░░░░░░ to call the popular ░░░░░░░░ Hamas have made an ░░░░░░░░ impact in presenting their ░░░░░░░░ and we try and ░░░░░░░░ it every single day ░░░░░░░░ it is absolutely challenging ░░░░░░░░ single day Yes they ░░░░░░░░ doing too well as ░░░░░░░░ as I m concerned ░░░░░░░░ we just were told ░░░░░░░░ the prime minister of ░░░░░░░░ his office is saying ░░░░░░░░ he will be holding ░░░░░░░░ press conference at 9 ░░░░░░░░ local time That s ░░░░░░░░ 15 eastern time today ░░░░░░░░ will of course be ░░░░░░░░ that Chris I m ░░░░░░░░ so of these innocent ░░░░░░░░ that are going to ░░░░░░░░ starting to be released ░░░░░░░░ Hamas control back to ░░░░░░░░ what kind of information ░░░░░░░░ Israel going to be ░░░░░░░░ to learn from them ░░░░░░░░ intelligence that comes out ░░░░░░░░ it Taking into consideration ░░░░░░░░ of these are children ░░░░░░░░ what will happen first ░░░░░░░░ they will be put ░░░░░░░░ a reintegration process where ░░░░░░░░ will be medically assessed ░░░░░░░░ then psychologically assessed to ░░░░░░░░ sure they re in ░░░░░░░░ that they can be ░░░░░░░░ debriefed What will happen ░░░░░░░░ is the conditions of ░░░░░░░░ confine where they were ░░░░░░░░ how they were fed ░░░░░░░░ they were held with ░░░░░░░░ were the guards zrigs ░░░░░░░░ the guard description of ░░░░░░░░ guards the uniforms so ░░░░░░░░ can tie that to ░░░░░░░░ specific unit in Hamas ░░░░░░░░ they moved around any ░░░░░░░░ that can corroborate existing ░░░░░░░░ that is already held ░░░░░░░░ Israel in the international ░░░░░░░░ or start a new ░░░░░░░░ of collection where we ░░░░░░░░ start refining where they ░░░░░░░░ be These negotiations also ░░░░░░░░ us gather information on ░░░░░░░░ is going on with ░░░░░░░░ hostages and you know ░░░░░░░░ the Red Cross is ░░░░░░░░ going to get some ░░░░░░░░ to the remaining hostages ░░░░░░░░ that maybe we ll ░░░░░░░░ us identification and conditions ░░░░░░░░ the health of the ░░░░░░░░ remaining in custody And ░░░░░░░░ ll just piggyback off ░░░░░░░░ the colonel says also ░░░░░░░░ tactic is modus operandi ░░░░░░░░ Hamas Palestinian groups have ░░░░░░░░ doing it for years ░░░░░░░░ unfortunately works for them ░░░░░░░░ only has to look ░░░░░░░░ to the 1972 massacre ░░░░░░░░ Munich and shortly two ░░░░░░░░ after yasser arafat was ░░░░░░░░ on the floor of ░░░░░░░░ U N general assembly ░░░░░░░░ they know that they ░░░░░░░░ they can buy time ░░░░░░░░ know this is dynamic ░░░░░░░░ works in their favor ░░░░░░░░ global support for Israel ░░░░░░░░ wane
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