Renato Mariotti Appears on MSNBC’s ‘The Last Word’ To Discuss Trump-Comey Issue


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The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Name: The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

URL: http://tv.msnbc.com/shows/the-last-word/

Lawrence O’Donnell

Name: Lawrence O’Donnell

Employment: MSNBC

Position: Host

, Renato Mariotti

Name: Renato Mariotti

Event location
06/07/2017 12:49 am
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RUSH TRANSCRIPT Joining us ░░░░░░░░ Matt Miller former spokesman ░░░░░░░░ attorney general Eric Holder ░░░░░░░░ MSNBC contributor Former senior ░░░░░░░░ he s also former ░░░░░░░░ counsel to the Senate ░░░░░░░░ committee Also with us ░░░░░░░░ assistant U S Attorney ░░░░░░░░ the northern district of ░░░░░░░░ he s prosecutored many ░░░░░░░░ obstruction of justice cases ░░░░░░░░ want to go to ░░░░░░░░ first on obstruction of ░░░░░░░░ The elements of it ░░░░░░░░ were considered clear enough ░░░░░░░░ the Congress in 1974 ░░░░░░░░ president Nixon s case ░░░░░░░░ to not much more ░░░░░░░░ him saying uh huh ░░░░░░░░ that tape to that ░░░░░░░░ of having the CIA ░░░░░░░░ the FBI to stop ░░░░░░░░ investigation Here you have ░░░░░░░░ Comey saying asked him ░░░░░░░░ to stop the investigation ░░░░░░░░ have Dan coats telling ░░░░░░░░ that the president asked ░░░░░░░░ to intervene and Mr ░░░░░░░░ was a witness to ░░░░░░░░ conversation Where do you ░░░░░░░░ this obstruction of justice ░░░░░░░░ tonight First of all ░░░░░░░░ don t have a ░░░░░░░░ here like there was ░░░░░░░░ in the 70s that ░░░░░░░░ one difference It will ░░░░░░░░ interesting to see whether ░░░░░░░░ s a dispute about ░░░░░░░░ happened in that room ░░░░░░░░ there s a he ░░░░░░░░ he said between the ░░░░░░░░ and Mr Comey I ░░░░░░░░ we ll discover that ░░░░░░░░ this week I think ░░░░░░░░ the real legal issue ░░░░░░░░ here from a legal ░░░░░░░░ and impeachment is a ░░░░░░░░ different than that Is ░░░░░░░░ or not President Trump ░░░░░░░░ a corrupt intent when ░░░░░░░░ was speaking to Mr ░░░░░░░░ and there be a ░░░░░░░░ of things that a ░░░░░░░░ would look at when ░░░░░░░░ that that would be ░░░░░░░░ example the nature and ░░░░░░░░ of his actions around ░░░░░░░░ time As well as ░░░░░░░░ subsequent firing of Mr ░░░░░░░░ What do you think ░░░░░░░░ ma methodology You ve ░░░░░░░░ in many meetings fairly ░░░░░░░░ fairly large Oval Office ░░░░░░░░ room that moment everybody ░░░░░░░░ out I want to ░░░░░░░░ this guy everyone else ░░░░░░░░ want to talk to ░░░░░░░░ people Included among those ░░░░░░░░ banished from the room ░░░░░░░░ the vice president Yeah ░░░░░░░░ it s common for ░░░░░░░░ president to clear junior ░░░░░░░░ in the room to ░░░░░░░░ to senior people but ░░░░░░░░ he alleged clear two ░░░░░░░░ senior people to speak ░░░░░░░░ director Comey And you ░░░░░░░░ at also the fact ░░░░░░░░ earlier the fact that ░░░░░░░░ that meeting Jim Comey ░░░░░░░░ so troubled by the ░░░░░░░░ He asked Jeff Sessions ░░░░░░░░ to leave him alone ░░░░░░░░ the president again Pretty ░░░░░░░░ thing to be said ░░░░░░░░ the FBI director Frankly ░░░░░░░░ troubling factor declined to ░░░░░░░░ Mr Comey that assurance ░░░░░░░░ to say oh no ░░░░░░░░ won t let that ░░░░░░░░ again That raises troubling ░░░░░░░░ about attorney general sessions ░░░░░░░░ in this whole matter ░░░░░░░░ Miller I want to ░░░░░░░░ of all allow that ░░░░░░░░ re open to respond ░░░░░░░░ anything we ll take ░░░░░░░░ moment Jeff Sessions the ░░░░░░░░ general reports tonight indicating ░░░░░░░░ he offered the president ░░░░░░░░ resignation This comes 24 ░░░░░░░░ after breaking news report ░░░░░░░░ night that where the ░░░░░░░░ York Times is reporting ░░░░░░░░ president has lost confidence ░░░░░░░░ complaining about Jeff Sessions ░░░░░░░░ all of the problems ░░░░░░░░ come from Jeff Sessions ░░░░░░░░ himself and that s ░░░░░░░░ led to the special ░░░░░░░░ and Jeff Sessions had ░░░░░░░░ himself and they ll ░░░░░░░░ going on and here ░░░░░░░░ now know Jeff Sessions ░░░░░░░░ to be aware of ░░░░░░░░ of that and has ░░░░░░░░ to the point of ░░░░░░░░ serve at your pleasure ░░░░░░░░ first of all in ░░░░░░░░ to Jeff Sessions I ░░░░░░░░ it s fairly damming ░░░░░░░░ the president was so ░░░░░░░░ that Jeff Sessions would ░░░░░░░░ himself The recusal rules ░░░░░░░░ black and white Jeff ░░░░░░░░ had a role He ░░░░░░░░ no options but to ░░░░░░░░ There wasn t discretionary ░░░░░░░░ Matt let me stop ░░░░░░░░ for a second what ░░░░░░░░ the attorney general had ░░░░░░░░ recused himself what process ░░░░░░░░ have ensued that would ░░░░░░░░ forced him to He ░░░░░░░░ could have investigated by ░░░░░░░░ inspector so for the ░░░░░░░░ to be so upset ░░░░░░░░ not him recusing makes ░░░░░░░░ ask the question why ░░░░░░░░ he in charge of ░░░░░░░░ investigation or not He ░░░░░░░░ want that investigation to ░░░░░░░░ forward The only reason ░░░░░░░░ think he would care ░░░░░░░░ it was Jeff Sessions ░░░░░░░░ the rod Rosenstein he ░░░░░░░░ he might exert inappropriate ░░░░░░░░ and what he later ░░░░░░░░ Dan coats to do ░░░░░░░░ s a little troubling ░░░░░░░░ other thing about Jeff ░░░░░░░░ in all of this ░░░░░░░░ indeed the president has ░░░░░░░░ happy with him since ░░░░░░░░ s been complaining about ░░░░░░░░ One of the unanswered ░░░░░░░░ what did he know ░░░░░░░░ signed off on the ░░░░░░░░ If he knew that ░░░░░░░░ president was upset with ░░░░░░░░ s handling of the ░░░░░░░░ case and it s ░░░░░░░░ to imagine that the ░░░░░░░░ was calling Dan coats ░░░░░░░░ Mike Pompeo and Mike ░░░░░░░░ all whom people we ░░░░░░░░ know he wasn t ░░░░░░░░ the same questions Jeff ░░░░░░░░ knew about that when ░░░░░░░░ signed up there was ░░░░░░░░ massive scandal and makes ░░░░░░░░ you know really as ░░░░░░░░ general Of course we ░░░░░░░░ talking about it as ░░░░░░░░ criminal case In impeachment ░░░░░░░░ is no system or ░░░░░░░░ It is literally whatever ░░░░░░░░ house there s also ░░░░░░░░ standard of proof it ░░░░░░░░ not a matter of ░░░░░░░░ a reasonable doubt so ░░░░░░░░ don t need all ░░░░░░░░ courtroom standards to be ░░░░░░░░ in impeachment it s ░░░░░░░░ a lower threshold The ░░░░░░░░ we saw used with ░░░░░░░░ Nixon for this certainly ░░░░░░░░ applied here would absolutely ░░░░░░░░ to such an article ░░░░░░░░ impeachment in the house ░░░░░░░░ it s important to ░░░░░░░░ that back in the ░░░░░░░░ the Republicans didn t ░░░░░░░░ Congress you know I ░░░░░░░░ not an expert on ░░░░░░░░ and the winds are ░░░░░░░░ to blow in Congress ░░░░░░░░ me tell you certainly ░░░░░░░░ will expect and really ░░░░░░░░ think what we re ░░░░░░░░ here today is a ░░░░░░░░ of very unusual that ░░░░░░░░ raising eyebrows I will ░░░░░░░░ you as a prosecutor ░░░░░░░░ prosecutor I never heard ░░░░░░░░ anyone being upset with ░░░░░░░░ else Reing themselves That ░░░░░░░░ all the time Sometimes ░░░░░░░░ you didn t have ░░░░░░░░ recuse herself so it ░░░░░░░░ hard to understand why ░░░░░░░░ will be upset about ░░░░░░░░ And frankly and if ░░░░░░░░ Sessions did leave his ░░░░░░░░ general who will replace ░░░░░░░░ could there be someone ░░░░░░░░ with Mr Rosenstein overseeing ░░░░░░░░ investigation What s your ░░░░░░░░ of where we are ░░░░░░░░ to 1974 The Republicans ░░░░░░░░ of the articles in ░░░░░░░░ and it was finally ░░░░░░░░ who went up to ░░░░░░░░ said to him and ░░░░░░░░ you cannot resign this ░░░░░░░░ can you compare that ░░░░░░░░ where we are now ░░░░░░░░ think the political will ░░░░░░░░ not there in the ░░░░░░░░ Party right now It ░░░░░░░░ the legal battle Of ░░░░░░░░ everybody in a legal ░░░░░░░░ there s a practical ░░░░░░░░ It s something that ░░░░░░░░ jurors are suppose to ░░░░░░░░ The majority of them ░░░░░░░░ the Republicans I don ░░░░░░░░ think they re the ░░░░░░░░ Thursday will be one ░░░░░░░░ the big steps But ░░░░░░░░ think we ll never ░░░░░░░░ to what happened whether ░░░░░░░░ president actually committed obstruction ░░░░░░░░ justice in the full ░░░░░░░░ of the case coats ░░░░░░░░ sessions under penalty of ░░░░░░░░ what did the president ░░░░░░░░ to them about the ░░░░░░░░ did he ask him ░░░░░░░░ prevent them from being ░░░░░░░░ Matt Miller thank you ░░░░░░░░ much for joining us ░░░░░░░░ really appreciate it Thank ░░░░░░░░ We ll need you ░░░░░░░░ another
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