Tony Shaffer on Ariana Grande Concert Explosion: That Clearly Was the Sound of an IED

[excerpt SHAFFER We need ░░░░░░░░ look back at other ░░░░░░░░ where an IED was ░░░░░░░░ We have to remember ░░░░░░░░ we have not seen ░░░░░░░░ actual place it exploded ░░░░░░░░ it is dark So ░░░░░░░░ could ve been done ░░░░░░░░ the periphery of the ░░░░░░░░ complex so you may ░░░░░░░░ have had it on ░░░░░░░░ CCTV or something Clearly ░░░░░░░░ had that one video ░░░░░░░░ you had the sound ░░░░░░░░ clearly was a sound ░░░░░░░░ my judgment of an ░░░░░░░░ The other thing that ░░░░░░░░ think we re seeing ░░░░░░░░ of was a type ░░░░░░░░ injuries This may have ░░░░░░░░ a highly focused weapon ░░░░░░░░ IED with shrapnel People ░░░░░░░░ build these things tend ░░░░░░░░ use ball bearings and ░░░░░░░░ small pieces of metal ░░░░░░░░ purposes of shredding things ░░░░░░░░ it looks like some ░░░░░░░░ the injuries you re ░░░░░░░░ may have been from ░░░░░░░░ flying at a very ░░░░░░░░ rate of speed So ░░░░░░░░ of those things may ░░░░░░░░ that the explosive bit ░░░░░░░░ not in the place ░░░░░░░░ was observable to those ░░░░░░░░ the concert it could ░░░░░░░░ been on the periphery ░░░░░░░░ some gate or some ░░░░░░░░ It could have been ░░░░░░░░ an enclosed area MacCALLUM ░░░░░░░░ just want to point ░░░░░░░░ you look at that ░░░░░░░░ that we just saw ░░░░░░░░ this is kind of ░░░░░░░░ so we ll see ░░░░░░░░ it comes back but ░░░░░░░░ s so eerie because ░░░░░░░░ see older adults standing ░░░░░░░░ at the bottom of ░░░░░░░░ stairs Everyone else is ░░░░░░░░ away We are going ░░░░░░░░ replay that in just ░░░░░░░░ moment These people are ░░░░░░░░ getting out of their ░░░░░░░░ waiting for their kids ░░░░░░░░ come out of this ░░░░░░░░ and they just heard ░░░░░░░░ explosion and they re ░░░░░░░░ all these kids running ░░░░░░░░ the stairs and your ░░░░░░░░ just stops thinking about ░░░░░░░░ it s like for ░░░░░░░░ parents as they are ░░░░░░░░ arriving to pick up ░░░░░░░░ children at this concert ░░░░░░░░ it was just ending ░░░░░░░░ s going to listen ░░░░░░░░ us to this explosive ░░░░░░░░ the video one more ░░░░░░░░ which he just described ░░░░░░░░ something sounding like an ░░░░░░░░ Let s listen to ░░░░░░░░ All of us together ░░░░░░░░ starts UNKNOWN No clip ░░░░░░░░ MacCALLUM That s the ░░░░░░░░ most likely from the ░░░░░░░░ in the car it ░░░░░░░░ a dash cam video ░░░░░░░░ s a large explosive ░░░░░░░░ for sure Tony SHAFFER ░░░░░░░░ experience is I ve ░░░░░░░░ within proximity of IEDs ░░░░░░░░ off in Afghanistan and ░░░░░░░░ s kind of what ░░░░░░░░ sound like It s ░░░░░░░░ very sharp concussion and ░░░░░░░░ nothing So I think ░░░░░░░░ what I ve seen ░░░░░░░░ the injuries this thing ░░░░░░░░ ve been done in ░░░░░░░░ space where you wouldn ░░░░░░░░ see a lot of ░░░░░░░░ or smoke It could ░░░░░░░░ been very well done ░░░░░░░░ a lot of observation ░░░░░░░░ it But that was ░░░░░░░░ very loud explosion it ░░░░░░░░ like other things I ░░░░░░░░ heard in combat.”