Chris Whipple: Biden Inauguration Team Planned for Trump to Use the Military Against Them

WALLACE Now veteran Reporter ░░░░░░░░ Whipple is out with ░░░░░░░░ incredible new reporting on ░░░░░░░░ extreme steps the incoming ░░░░░░░░ Administration took behind the ░░░░░░░░ to prepare for the ░░░░░░░░ that Trump would attempt ░░░░░░░░ military style coup in ░░░░░░░░ to block the peaceful ░░░░░░░░ of power From that ░░░░░░░░ book Biden s team ░░░░░░░░ obstruction delays in getting ░░░░░░░░ in place and a ░░░░░░░░ effort to impede the ░░░░░░░░ of power And much ░░░░░░░░ They prepared for quote ░░░░░░░░ challenges of which there ░░░░░░░░ too many to count ░░░░░░░░ this ominous possibility quote ░░░░░░░░ increase in the level ░░░░░░░░ intensity of social protesting ░░░░░░░░ government response According to ░░░░░░░░ s transition chairman that ░░░░░░░░ the quote euphemism of ░░░░░░░░ year government response was ░░░░░░░░ for Trump sending troops ░░░░░░░░ the streets perhaps declaring ░░░░░░░░ law No one in ░░░░░░░░ Biden camp would say ░░░░░░░░ that they feared Trump ░░░░░░░░ stage a coup but ░░░░░░░░ they were taking precautions ░░░░░░░░ it something we were ░░░░░░░░ about and thought about ░░░░░░░░ plans about Absolutely We ░░░░░░░░ a bunch of smart ░░░░░░░░ sitting around a table ░░░░░░░░ and day saying okay ░░░░░░░░ are the plans One ░░░░░░░░ the key questions was ░░░░░░░░ s going to happen ░░░░░░░░ Trump and the military ░░░░░░░░ know you re in ░░░░░░░░ when doomsday planning for ░░░░░░░░ possible military coup by ░░░░░░░░ outgoing president ends up ░░░░░░░░ your to do list ░░░░░░░░ Whipple spent two years ░░░░░░░░ President Biden s inner ░░░░░░░░ including Biden s chief ░░░░░░░░ staff Ron Klain Also ░░░░░░░░ us New York Times ░░░░░░░░ Mike Schmidt is out ░░░░░░░░ an exhaustive new chunk ░░░░░░░░ reporting on Donald Trump ░░░░░░░░ chief of staff John ░░░░░░░░ Taken together they are ░░░░░░░░ portraits of two men ░░░░░░░░ for two very different ░░░░░░░░ but who both share ░░░░░░░░ same sense of foreboding ░░░░░░░░ our nation in this ░░░░░░░░ moment for our democracy ░░░░░░░░ and Mike join us ░░░░░░░░ Chris Whipple s new ░░░░░░░░ The Fight of His ░░░░░░░░ Inside Joe Biden s ░░░░░░░░ House is out today ░░░░░░░░ Mike Schmidt is back ░░░░░░░░ us New York Times ░░░░░░░░ correspondent whose book Donald ░░░░░░░░ vs The United States ░░░░░░░░ the Struggle to Stop ░░░░░░░░ President is out in ░░░░░░░░ with that new reporting ░░░░░░░░ John Kelly and it ░░░░░░░░ also out today Thank ░░░░░░░░ both for being here ░░░░░░░░ Good to be with ░░░░░░░░ WALLACE Take me through ░░░░░░░░ book WHIPPLE Well you ░░░░░░░░ it begins with the ░░░░░░░░ The most fraught and ░░░░░░░░ dangerous transition since the ░░░░░░░░ War and the bloodiest ░░░░░░░░ it turned out It ░░░░░░░░ absolutely extraordinary I talked ░░░░░░░░ Bob Bauer who was ░░░░░░░░ legal counsel for the ░░░░░░░░ He s the one ░░░░░░░░ described 70 different eventualities ░░░░░░░░ were preparing for including ░░░░░░░░ stopped at 70 because ░░░░░░░░ was all they could ░░░░░░░░ deal with But the ░░░░░░░░ dangerous of which would ░░░░░░░░ been a military coup ░░░░░░░░ while all that was ░░░░░░░░ on Nicolle the really ░░░░░░░░ thing was this untold ░░░░░░░░ I came across of ░░░░░░░░ Trump staffer an obscure ░░░░░░░░ White House chief of ░░░░░░░░ a New Zealander who ░░░░░░░░ to work for Mitt ░░░░░░░░ He was in charge ░░░░░░░░ his transition Wound up ░░░░░░░░ the Trump White House ░░░░░░░░ wasn t crazy about ░░░░░░░░ But he stayed until ░░░░░░░░ 6th and beyond And ░░░░░░░░ was the guy who ░░░░░░░░ kept the wheels of ░░░░░░░░ transition turning in a ░░░░░░░░ of sub rosa operation ░░░░░░░░ Trump s nose and ░░░░░░░░ his knowledge It s ░░░░░░░░ extraordinary story And he ░░░░░░░░ people like Josh Bolten ░░░░░░░░ former Bush chief of ░░░░░░░░ and others talking to ░░░░░░░░ as kind of a ░░░░░░░░ talking him off the ░░░░░░░░ Telling him you cannot ░░░░░░░░ because otherwise we won ░░░░░░░░ have a transfer of ░░░░░░░░ So it s an ░░░░░░░░ story And that s ░░░░░░░░ are the first few ░░░░░░░░ of the book I ░░░░░░░░ on to talk about ░░░░░░░░ first two years of ░░░░░░░░ Biden White House which ░░░░░░░░ really see as a ░░░░░░░░ of tale of two ░░░░░░░░ The first year defined ░░░░░░░░ the Afghanistan debacle The ░░░░░░░░ year defined by Ukraine ░░░░░░░░ all of his legislative ░░░░░░░░ So anyway it s ░░░░░░░░ thriller I think WALLACE ░░░░░░░░ s such an incredible ░░░░░░░░ gives me chills hearing ░░░░░░░░ these 70 plans.”