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Oakland County Prosecutor on Shooting: I’m Focused on Holding the People Accountable Who Could Have Prevented This
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CNN This Morning

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Brianna Keilar

Name: Brianna Keilar

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Position: White House Correspondent

, Karen McDonald

Name: Karen McDonald

Employment: Oakland County

Position: Prosecutor

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KEILAR You hear the ░░░░░░░░ you heard them say ░░░░░░░░ gun was locked Did ░░░░░░░░ Crumbley have a key ░░░░░░░░ it MCDONALD It s ░░░░░░░░ clear I know what ░░░░░░░░ know is that he ░░░░░░░░ access and free access ░░░░░░░░ based on the social ░░░░░░░░ posts and other comments ░░░░░░░░ evidence that I can ░░░░░░░░ comment on the gun ░░░░░░░░ considered his and it ░░░░░░░░ purchased as a present ░░░░░░░░ him KEILAR So Michigan ░░░░░░░░ t have a safe ░░░░░░░░ law Does that hurt ░░░░░░░░ case here MCDONALD Well ░░░░░░░░ does not have a ░░░░░░░░ storage law and hopefully ░░░░░░░░ will change soon But ░░░░░░░░ it doesn t This ░░░░░░░░ a charge based on ░░░░░░░░ negligence and failure to ░░░░░░░░ a duty There s ░░░░░░░░ lot of evidence and ░░░░░░░░ has been made public ░░░░░░░░ some has not I ░░░░░░░░ want to say these ░░░░░░░░ mere allegations They are ░░░░░░░░ until proven guilty However ░░░░░░░░ can comment on what ░░░░░░░░ been made public in ░░░░░░░░ swear to in open ░░░░░░░░ And there was absolutely ░░░░░░░░ to suggest that there ░░░░░░░░ an indication he might ░░░░░░░░ somebody and even kill ░░░░░░░░ We have a responsibility ░░░░░░░░ a community as a ░░░░░░░░ as a nation to ░░░░░░░░ people accountable We can ░░░░░░░░ a lot in training ░░░░░░░░ we can try to ░░░░░░░░ for these things But ░░░░░░░░ a mom and a ░░░░░░░░ I m interested in ░░░░░░░░ to figure out how ░░░░░░░░ don t happen at ░░░░░░░░ And that goes back ░░░░░░░░ the weapon I m ░░░░░░░░ saying people shouldn t ░░░░░░░░ guns I grew up ░░░░░░░░ a house my dad ░░░░░░░░ a hunter we have ░░░░░░░░ I have lots of ░░░░░░░░ in law enforcement and ░░░░░░░░ that own guns but ░░░░░░░░ do so safely And ░░░░░░░░ that right to own ░░░░░░░░ gun comes the responsibility ░░░░░░░░ safely secure it and ░░░░░░░░ sure it does not ░░░░░░░░ up in the hands ░░░░░░░░ somebody who is absolutely ░░░░░░░░ signs that he is ░░░░░░░░ OK that he wants ░░░░░░░░ harm somebody The nation ░░░░░░░░ looked at the statements ░░░░░░░░ Can I ask you ░░░░░░░░ besides and I don ░░░░░░░░ know it needs more ░░░░░░░░ this but obviously it ░░░░░░░░ important in the case ░░░░░░░░ you re building aside ░░░░░░░░ the search for ammo ░░░░░░░░ from the social media ░░░░░░░░ where he s referring ░░░░░░░░ the gun as his ░░░░░░░░ and his mom s ░░░░░░░░ post aside from the ░░░░░░░░ that was incredibly disturbing ░░░░░░░░ before the shooting is ░░░░░░░░ other are there other ░░░░░░░░ points that are revealing ░░░░░░░░ you besides that about ░░░░░░░░ intentions MCDONALD Yes and ░░░░░░░░ can t comment on ░░░░░░░░ And I can only ░░░░░░░░ on the facts that ░░░░░░░░ made public in the ░░░░░░░░ to But I will ░░░░░░░░ Brianna that even just ░░░░░░░░ three things there that ░░░░░░░░ list listed it s ░░░░░░░░ really hard to stomach ░░░░░░░░ somebody that cares about ░░░░░░░░ or any of us ░░░░░░░░ that was not revealed ░░░░░░░░ he had open access ░░░░░░░░ that weapon and combined ░░░░░░░░ the drawings and the ░░░░░░░░ on the drawings I ░░░░░░░░ want I m going ░░░░░░░░ do everything I can ░░░░░░░░ prosecute this case and ░░░░░░░░ justice for victims But ░░░░░░░░ also want us to ░░░░░░░░ better And we have ░░░░░░░░ start addressing how somebody ░░░░░░░░ that can so easily ░░░░░░░░ their hands on a ░░░░░░░░ And we have to ░░░░░░░░ the people responsible who ░░░░░░░░ that to happen KEILAR ░░░░░░░░ the conversation that school ░░░░░░░░ had with the parents ░░░░░░░░ guns discussed MCDONALD Not ░░░░░░░░ my knowledge But based ░░░░░░░░ the statements that the ░░░░░░░░ has made not to ░░░░░░░░ knowledge KEILAR Did the ░░░░░░░░ ask Ethan Crumbley if ░░░░░░░░ had access to a ░░░░░░░░ MCDONALD Not to my ░░░░░░░░ KEILAR But it sounds ░░░░░░░░ the school was aware ░░░░░░░░ that he had access ░░░░░░░░ a gun at least ░░░░░░░░ because they knew according ░░░░░░░░ him that target practice ░░░░░░░░ a family hobby And ░░░░░░░░ if shooting sports are ░░░░░░░░ family hobby you know ░░░░░░░░ can t do that ░░░░░░░░ a gun right MCDONALD ░░░░░░░░ really can t comment ░░░░░░░░ what the school officials ░░░░░░░░ or didn t know ░░░░░░░░ can only comment on ░░░░░░░░ evidence that s public ░░░░░░░░ this moment KEILAR But ░░░░░░░░ ve said that publicly ░░░░░░░░ like that is public ░░░░░░░░ that he revealed to ░░░░░░░░ that shooting sports were ░░░░░░░░ family hobby MCDONALD I ░░░░░░░░ they have stated that ░░░░░░░░ revealed to one school ░░░░░░░░ after he was searching ░░░░░░░░ that that was a ░░░░░░░░ hobby and I think ░░░░░░░░ s a lot of ░░░░░░░░ to suggest that that ░░░░░░░░ true KEILAR Did the ░░░░░░░░ have legal grounds to ░░░░░░░░ his backpack and his ░░░░░░░░ MCDONALD Yes KEILAR But ░░░░░░░░ didn t MCDONALD It ░░░░░░░░ t no We don ░░░░░░░░ know exactly if that ░░░░░░░░ was in his bag ░░░░░░░░ it was We just ░░░░░░░░ that it was in ░░░░░░░░ school and he had ░░░░░░░░ to it And I ░░░░░░░░ want to say I ░░░░░░░░ sympathetic to parents My ░░░░░░░░ and I have raised ░░░░░░░░ children and I m ░░░░░░░░ not suggesting that parents ░░░░░░░░ be criminally prosecuted for ░░░░░░░░ bad act of a ░░░░░░░░ But in this case ░░░░░░░░ can t possibly look ░░░░░░░░ their actions and say ░░░░░░░░ they didn t have ░░░░░░░░ to believe that there ░░░░░░░░ real concern about a ░░░░░░░░ act And again these ░░░░░░░░ just the details that ░░░░░░░░ m that we ve ░░░░░░░░ public So going to ░░░░░░░░ source if he had ░░░░░░░░ had access to that ░░░░░░░░ if it was secured ░░░░░░░░ from him whether it ░░░░░░░░ locked or not he ░░░░░░░░ access to it And ░░░░░░░░ of this could have ░░░░░░░░ prevented if he hadn ░░░░░░░░ had access or if ░░░░░░░░ one of those parents ░░░░░░░░ I m concerned about ░░░░░░░░ I m seeing right ░░░░░░░░ and I also want ░░░░░░░░ to know we just ░░░░░░░░ him a gun for ░░░░░░░░ And that didn t ░░░░░░░░ And I just can ░░░░░░░░ let that go without ░░░░░░░░ them accountable And I ░░░░░░░░ most of the country ░░░░░░░░ that way too No ░░░░░░░░ s trying to take ░░░░░░░░ s right to possess ░░░░░░░░ weapon But four kids ░░░░░░░░ murdered seven more were ░░░░░░░░ and hundreds and hundreds ░░░░░░░░ their lives will never ░░░░░░░░ the same So I ░░░░░░░░ think it s time ░░░░░░░░ stop talking about how ░░░░░░░░ it is we have ░░░░░░░░ shootings and look to ░░░░░░░░ what we can do ░░░░░░░░ actually prevent them from ░░░░░░░░ again KEILAR Look I ░░░░░░░░ not agree with you ░░░░░░░░ on that I do ░░░░░░░░ want to cover these ░░░░░░░░ shootings anymore but I ░░░░░░░░ sure that I will ░░░░░░░░ them again In this ░░░░░░░░ case the parents we ░░░░░░░░ told resisted taking Ethan ░░░░░░░░ home after this meeting ░░░░░░░░ had shortly before the ░░░░░░░░ So did they flat ░░░░░░░░ refuse to take him ░░░░░░░░ MCDONALD I only know ░░░░░░░░ same as you in ░░░░░░░░ of the recent statement ░░░░░░░░ the superintendent I can ░░░░░░░░ confirm that the statements ░░░░░░░░ by school officials are ░░░░░░░░ with that but I ░░░░░░░░ don t know But ░░░░░░░░ all know that a ░░░░░░░░ they don t have ░░░░░░░░ agree to their son ░░░░░░░░ home KEILAR I just ░░░░░░░░ to be clear it ░░░░░░░░ law enforcement it was ░░░░░░░░ enforcement that said they ░░░░░░░░ and it s sort ░░░░░░░░ hard to understand exactly ░░░░░░░░ that means But I ░░░░░░░░ just want to ask ░░░░░░░░ have you ruled out ░░░░░░░░ any school officials MCDONALD ░░░░░░░░ s under investigation so ░░░░░░░░ we haven t ruled ░░░░░░░░ charging anyone Right now ░░░░░░░░ re focused on I ░░░░░░░░ focused on making sure ░░░░░░░░ community know our first ░░░░░░░░ is keeping the community ░░░░░░░░ and holding the people ░░░░░░░░ who could have prevented ░░░░░░░░ And right now the ░░░░░░░░ are those two people ░░░░░░░░ of this should have ░░░░░░░░ A 15 and a ░░░░░░░░ year old should not ░░░░░░░░ sitting in jail facing ░░░░░░░░ in prison These children ░░░░░░░░ were terrorized and killed ░░░░░░░░ shot none of it ░░░░░░░░ have happened and it ░░░░░░░░ have been prevented.”
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