Jeh Johnson: The Biggest Problem We Are Facing Now Is the Internet

BARNICLE Mr Secretary you ░░░░░░░░ had a long honorable ░░░░░░░░ distinguished career of service ░░░░░░░░ the United States of ░░░░░░░░ So I d like ░░░░░░░░ ask you what do ░░░░░░░░ think poses the larger ░░░░░░░░ to our country today ░░░░░░░░ have Covid 19 and ░░░░░░░░ Delta variant people not ░░░░░░░░ a vaccine We also ░░░░░░░░ one of two major ░░░░░░░░ parties in denial a ░░░░░░░░ percentage of those Republicans ░░░░░░░░ denial of the fact ░░░░░░░░ Joseph R Biden is ░░░░░░░░ legitimately elected president of ░░░░░░░░ United States And we ░░░░░░░░ had a member of ░░░░░░░░ party the former president ░░░░░░░░ engaged in trying to ░░░░░░░░ a coup against the ░░░░░░░░ federal government So my ░░░░░░░░ to you is given ░░░░░░░░ we have a vaccine ░░░░░░░░ the virus and there ░░░░░░░░ to be no vaccine ░░░░░░░░ the illness that has ░░░░░░░░ the Republican Party what ░░░░░░░░ the bigger danger we ░░░░░░░░ as a country JOHNSON ░░░░░░░░ in my judgment the ░░░░░░░░ danger we face as ░░░░░░░░ country right now is ░░░░░░░░ very problems we re ░░░░░░░░ with our democracy Social ░░░░░░░░ the Internet enables us ░░░░░░░░ hold the world in ░░░░░░░░ entire hand This little ░░░░░░░░ here I can hold ░░░░░░░░ world in my entire ░░░░░░░░ On the other hand ░░░░░░░░ Internet enables us as ░░░░░░░░ to believe what we ░░░░░░░░ to believe We go ░░░░░░░░ sources and you know ░░░░░░░░ problem we go to ░░░░░░░░ for information that do ░░░░░░░░ more than validate our ░░░░░░░░ prejudices our biases and ░░░░░░░░ forth which is how ░░░░░░░░ end up in situations ░░░░░░░░ surveys that show that ░░░░░░░░ very very large percentage ░░░░░░░░ Americans of Republicans believe ░░░░░░░░ the election was stolen ░░░░░░░░ sixth of America apparently ░░░░░░░░ to the QAnon theory ░░░░░░░░ is frightening to me ░░░░░░░░ there are a lot ░░░░░░░░ Americans out there who ░░░░░░░░ that somehow this vaccine ░░░░░░░░ is saving lives is ░░░░░░░░ Which is how we ░░░░░░░░ up in situations like ░░░░░░░░ one we re in ░░░░░░░░ where we re seeing ░░░░░░░░ spike I looked at ░░░░░░░░ on your show a ░░░░░░░░ ago and it s ░░░░░░░░ worse now than it ░░░░░░░░ a year ago when ░░░░░░░░ were still in lock ░░░░░░░░ This is a surge ░░░░░░░░ the unvaccinated It didn ░░░░░░░░ have to be this ░░░░░░░░ if we were all ░░░░░░░░ and fact based in ░░░░░░░░ our decisions about our ░░░░░░░░ lives So underlying all ░░░░░░░░ what you cited Mike ░░░░░░░░ the problem we re ░░░░░░░░ right now with how ░░░░░░░░ get their information and ░░░░░░░░ their decisions about about ░░░░░░░░ to do BRZEZINSKI So ░░░░░░░░ sounds to me Mr ░░░░░░░░ like you re saying ░░░░░░░░ re no closer to ░░░░░░░░ our democracy from the ░░░░░░░░ of phases until we ░░░░░░░░ with platforms that promulgate ░░░░░░░░ information JOHNSON I think ░░░░░░░░ have to deal with ░░░░░░░░ platforms but let s ░░░░░░░░ forget that bottom of ░░░░░░░░ of this is the ░░░░░░░░ basic responsibility of citizens ░░░░░░░░ be informed be responsible ░░░░░░░░ just think of themselves ░░░░░░░░ of their children think ░░░░░░░░ their students of their ░░░░░░░░ think of their patients ░░░░░░░░ their health care workers ░░░░░░░░ s not think about ░░░░░░░░ here And so yes ░░░░░░░░ is a lot of ░░░░░░░░ right now but at ░░░░░░░░ very basic level it ░░░░░░░░ incumbent upon all of ░░░░░░░░ as Americans as citizens ░░░░░░░░ be responsible when it ░░░░░░░░ to our day to ░░░░░░░░ lives BRZEZINSKI Former Secretary ░░░░░░░░ Homeland Security Jeh Johnson ░░░░░░░░ you very much.”