Tucker: Everyone Is Afraid of the NSA, the Last Administration Were Really Afraid of Them

CARLSON Why not figure ░░░░░░░░ what the NSA is ░░░░░░░░ The largest intel agency ░░░░░░░░ the world That might ░░░░░░░░ your time that might ░░░░░░░░ a virtuous thing to ░░░░░░░░ It doesn t occur ░░░░░░░░ of course they support ░░░░░░░░ and the successes Jonathan ░░░░░░░░ is a law professor ░░░░░░░░ George Washington University He ░░░░░░░░ a lot about the ░░░░░░░░ He joins us tonight ░░░░░░░░ thanks so much for ░░░░░░░░ on Now I realize ░░░░░░░░ FOIA request from The ░░░░░░░░ is a lot easier ░░░░░░░░ there s nothing classified ░░░░░░░░ they need to respond ░░░░░░░░ so it doesn t ░░░░░░░░ explain why they filed ░░░░░░░░ in the first place ░░░░░░░░ you re The Intercept ░░░░░░░░ you ve got some ░░░░░░░░ billionaire paying the bills ░░░░░░░░ why not get to ░░░░░░░░ bottom of what the ░░░░░░░░ is doing Has that ░░░░░░░░ to anyone TURLEY Well ░░░░░░░░ not a number of ░░░░░░░░ who have remained relatively ░░░░░░░░ the people that you ░░░░░░░░ expect to be raising ░░░░░░░░ I just testified in ░░░░░░░░ House Judiciary Committee on ░░░░░░░░ surveillance of reporters and ░░░░░░░░ was one of the ░░░░░░░░ times in recent memory ░░░░░░░░ there was bipartisan agreement ░░░░░░░░ all of us who ░░░░░░░░ as experts all the ░░░░░░░░ in the room agreed ░░░░░░░░ we needed to fully ░░░░░░░░ whether journalists were intercepted ░░░░░░░░ has not been the ░░░░░░░░ to this story Now ░░░░░░░░ s a couple of ░░░░░░░░ that your e mails ░░░░░░░░ have been intercepted that ░░░░░░░░ be lawful You could ░░░░░░░░ been corresponding with someone ░░░░░░░░ is subject to an ░░░░░░░░ surveillance or that person ░░░░░░░░ have forwarded your e ░░░░░░░░ to someone who was ░░░░░░░░ but it doesn t ░░░░░░░░ the more troubling questions ░░░░░░░░ how that information was ░░░░░░░░ and also how your ░░░░░░░░ was not masked Now ░░░░░░░░ can unmask people in ░░░░░░░░ surveillance document of that ░░░░░░░░ but it requires someone ░░░░░░░░ ask for unmasking and ░░░░░░░░ would be no legitimate ░░░░░░░░ to do so here ░░░░░░░░ if reporters were given ░░░░░░░░ information it would be ░░░░░░░░ more serious because even ░░░░░░░░ your e mail itself ░░░░░░░░ not classified The Intercept ░░░░░░░░ NSA and FOIA material ░░░░░░░░ heavily classified I do ░░░░░░░░ security work and it ░░░░░░░░ years for me to ░░░░░░░░ access to a FISA ░░░░░░░░ I should say or ░░░░░░░░ NSA surveillance document So ░░░░░░░░ mere fact that they ░░░░░░░░ in surveillance is classified ░░░░░░░░ it would be a ░░░░░░░░ federal crime The question ░░░░░░░░ why they re CARLSON ░░░░░░░░ I mean because look ░░░░░░░░ re trying they intimidate ░░░░░░░░ The number of texts ░░░░░░░░ got today from people ░░░░░░░░ you know everyone is ░░░░░░░░ of the NSA and ░░░░░░░░ CIA just to be ░░░░░░░░ clear Lots of people ░░░░░░░░ the last administration were ░░░░░░░░ afraid of them that ░░░░░░░░ true I know firsthand ░░░░░░░░ lot of people now ░░░░░░░░ really afraid of them ░░░░░░░░ you want to live ░░░░░░░░ a country where people ░░░░░░░░ afraid of your intel ░░░░░░░░ Like what is that ░░░░░░░░ are we accepting this ░░░░░░░░ Well one of the ░░░░░░░░ aspects of this is ░░░░░░░░ lot of people are ░░░░░░░░ well this would be ░░░░░░░░ It s not ridiculous ░░░░░░░░ I testified just about ░░░░░░░░ week ago in Judiciary ░░░░░░░░ is an almost seasonal ░░░░░░░░ to this that is ░░░░░░░░ have journalists who were ░░░░░░░░ in the Bush administration ░░░░░░░░ Obama administration the Trump ░░░░░░░░ the Biden administration And ░░░░░░░░ every one of those ░░░░░░░░ there is the requisite ░░░░░░░░ promises of reform and ░░░░░░░░ goes away and then ░░░░░░░░ cycle continues CARLSON Right ░░░░░░░░ about prison time?”