RUSH TRANSCRIPT CNN cameras ░░░░░░░░ happened to be there ░░░░░░░░ 5 00 in the ░░░░░░░░ Anyway here to explain ░░░░░░░░ first interview the CEO ░░░░░░░░ founder of project veritas ░░░░░░░░ o keefe along with ░░░░░░░░ attorney Welcome both of ░░░░░░░░ I think it s ░░░░░░░░ to establish other media ░░░░░░░░ I m not comparing ░░░░░░░░ to other media but ░░░░░░░░ media use undercover cameras ░░░░░░░░ have for many years ░░░░░░░░ 60 minutes and NBC ░░░░░░░░ to catch a predator ░░░░░░░░ is not a new ░░░░░░░░ of journalism You acknowledge ░░░░░░░░ Well Sean on Saturday ░░░░░░░░ I acknowledged that but ░░░░░░░░ woke up to a ░░░░░░░░ raid Banging on my ░░░░░░░░ I went to the ░░░░░░░░ to answer the door ░░░░░░░░ there were 10 FBI ░░░░░░░░ with a battering ram ░░░░░░░░ a white blinding lights ░░░░░░░░ turned me around handcuffed ░░░░░░░░ and threw me against ░░░░░░░░ hallway partially clothed in ░░░░░░░░ of my neighbors They ░░░░░░░░ my home raided my ░░░░░░░░ on my phone were ░░░░░░░░ of my reporters notes ░░░░░░░░ lot of my sources ░░░░░░░░ to this story and ░░░░░░░░ lot of confidential donor ░░░░░░░░ to our news organization ░░░░░░░░ so I ve heard ░░░░░░░░ phrase the process is ░░░░░░░░ punishment I didn t ░░░░░░░░ understand what that meant ░░░░░░░░ this weekend and Sean ░░░░░░░░ wouldn t wish this ░░░░░░░░ any journalist Sean let ░░░░░░░░ go into the issue ░░░░░░░░ anybody that works in ░░░░░░░░ form of journalism or ░░░░░░░░ the press in any ░░░░░░░░ whether you re a ░░░░░░░░ show host like me ░░░░░░░░ doing what you do ░░░░░░░░ doing what anybody else ░░░░░░░░ in the course of ░░░░░░░░ your work you have ░░░░░░░░ correct You have whistle ░░░░░░░░ people giving her tips ░░░░░░░░ the time To what ░░░░░░░░ can you tell us ░░░░░░░░ context under which you ░░░░░░░░ given this diary I ░░░░░░░░ you did not take ░░░░░░░░ diary yourself Is that ░░░░░░░░ That s correct I ░░░░░░░░ speak to that Sean ░░░░░░░░ I can An anonymous ░░░░░░░░ contacted project veritas and ░░░░░░░░ the source in its ░░░░░░░░ possession copies of the ░░░░░░░░ that the source said ░░░░░░░░ to Ashley Biden The ░░░░░░░░ had a lawyer the ░░░░░░░░ engaged in negotiation with ░░░░░░░░ house counsel and the ░░░░░░░░ written agreement like so ░░░░░░░░ news organizations do veritas ░░░░░░░░ source again affirmed that ░░░░░░░░ had lawful possession of ░░░░░░░░ source material In exchange ░░░░░░░░ that veritas agreed to ░░░░░░░░ money for the right ░░░░░░░░ publish the material As ░░░░░░░░ know Sean veritas never ░░░░░░░░ it killed the story ░░░░░░░░ the news room floor ░░░░░░░░ went a step further ░░░░░░░░ turned the material into ░░░░░░░░ law enforcement The actions ░░░░░░░░ President Biden s Department ░░░░░░░░ Justice in this case ░░░░░░░░ unprecedented because Sean let ░░░░░░░░ go into this Supreme ░░░░░░░░ precedent Sean James I ░░░░░░░░ known you for a ░░░░░░░░ time You had no ░░░░░░░░ knowledge that what this ░░░░░░░░ was giving you could ░░░░░░░░ any way have been ░░░░░░░░ You were not able ░░░░░░░░ corroborate the authenticity of ░░░░░░░░ diary and you never ░░░░░░░░ it At what point ░░░░░░░░ did you go to ░░░░░░░░ enforcement on your own ░░░░░░░░ and tell them that ░░░░░░░░ had this in your ░░░░░░░░ and it might be ░░░░░░░░ else s Well Sean ░░░░░░░░ get sources come to ░░░░░░░░ all the time We ░░░░░░░░ thousands of sources come ░░░░░░░░ project veritas The nature ░░░░░░░░ journalism to be shown ░░░░░░░░ from a variety of ░░░░░░░░ But this is an ░░░░░░░░ on the First Amendment ░░░░░░░░ the Department of Justice ░░░░░░░░ didn t publish the ░░░░░░░░ We couldn t authenticate ░░░░░░░░ story so our journalists ░░░░░░░░ into it and we ░░░░░░░░ t we did not ░░░░░░░░ the story because we ░░░░░░░░ not authenticate it Sean ░░░░░░░░ by the way if ░░░░░░░░ can t authenticate you ░░░░░░░░ the right thing At ░░░░░░░░ point did you feel ░░░░░░░░ need to bring this ░░░░░░░░ law enforcement At what ░░░░░░░░ in the process did ░░░░░░░░ happen After the decision ░░░░░░░░ made to kill the ░░░░░░░░ and not run it ░░░░░░░░ forgot to add one ░░░░░░░░ if I could Sean ░░░░░░░░ you use the s ░░░░░░░░ It s really important ░░░░░░░░ understand not to buy ░░░░░░░░ premise that the diary ░░░░░░░░ stolen Nobody could have ░░░░░░░░ if that s the ░░░░░░░░ Sean that was my ░░░░░░░░ question I have been ░░░░░░░░ all over the internet ░░░░░░░░ in between that she ░░░░░░░░ it was stolen but ░░░░░░░░ people claimant might have ░░░░░░░░ left in a former ░░░░░░░░ of residence of hers ░░░░░░░░ we have an answer ░░░░░░░░ that question We do ░░░░░░░░ you know I think ░░░░░░░░ might look to me ░░░░░░░░ say that I m ░░░░░░░░ for talking about the ░░░░░░░░ at the level I ░░░░░░░░ already and so I ░░░░░░░░ going to respectfully say ░░░░░░░░ s going to come ░░░░░░░░ it s going to ░░░░░░░░ offering favorable to James ░░░░░░░░ awfully favorable to his ░░░░░░░░ organization Sean think it ░░░░░░░░ awfully interesting that James ░░░░░░░░ the one that brought ░░░░░░░░ to law enforcement s ░░░░░░░░ Let me ask this ░░░░░░░░ What is the alleged ░░░░░░░░ that they have here ░░░░░░░░ I don t know ░░░░░░░░ would Sean they didn ░░░░░░░░ tell you This was ░░░░░░░░ in a year ago ░░░░░░░░ Well the search warrant ░░░░░░░░ missed prison of a ░░░░░░░░ accessory after the fact ░░░░░░░░ transporting material across state ░░░░░░░░ as the basis for ░░░░░░░░ the home of a ░░░░░░░░ and seizing his workpapers ░░░░░░░░ journalist notes Sean I ░░░░░░░░ assume both of your ░░░░░░░░ familiar with Daniel Ellsberg ░░░░░░░░ the Pentagon papers case ░░░░░░░░ The New York Times ░░░░░░░░ stolen top secret documents ░░░░░░░░ they were publishing they ░░░░░░░░ set a precedent in ░░░░░░░░ U S Supreme Court ░░░░░░░░ 3 decision that said ░░░░░░░░ have the right to ░░░░░░░░ it even though that ░░░░░░░░ stolen material Do you ░░░░░░░░ similarities The right to ░░░░░░░░ it s entirely similar ░░░░░░░░ is no exception to ░░░░░░░░ O keefe and project ░░░░░░░░ The right to take ░░░░░░░░ material knowing it was ░░░░░░░░ the right seek comment ░░░░░░░░ right to investigate and ░░░░░░░░ the right to publish ░░░░░░░░ is outrageous and unprecedented ░░░░░░░░ journalist everywhere on either ░░░░░░░░ Sean why a year ░░░░░░░░ if I m understanding ░░░░░░░░ why did this come ░░░░░░░░ now James James go ░░░░░░░░ I m sorry Sean ░░░░░░░░ don t know the ░░░░░░░░ to that Sean but ░░░░░░░░ is they ve crossed ░░░░░░░░ bridge here of they ░░░░░░░░ do this to me ░░░░░░░░ are about certain principles ░░░░░░░░ are so fundamental our ░░░░░░░░ Amendment in this country ░░░░░░░░ m calling upon all ░░░░░░░░ to take a stand ░░░░░░░░ this a source comes ░░░░░░░░ us with information I ░░░░░░░░ t even decide to ░░░░░░░░ it If they can ░░░░░░░░ this to me if ░░░░░░░░ can do this to ░░░░░░░░ journalist and rate my ░░░░░░░░ and take my reporter ░░░░░░░░ they ll do it ░░░░░░░░ any journalist This is ░░░░░░░░ something very fundamental in ░░░░░░░░ country I don t ░░░░░░░░ what direction this country ░░░░░░░░ going in but journalist ░░░░░░░░ have to rise up ░░░░░░░░ we broke no laws ░░░░░░░░ They can do it ░░░░░░░░ me they ll do ░░░░░░░░ to anybody Sean so ░░░░░░░░ they came to your ░░░░░░░░ in this predawn raid ░░░░░░░░ through handcuffs on you ░░░░░░░░ pulled you out of ░░░░░░░░ house and 10 agents ░░░░░░░░ we just I assume ░░░░░░░░ took items out of ░░░░░░░░ house and office as ░░░░░░░░ understand it At that ░░░░░░░░ did they just take ░░░░░░░░ handcuffs off and say ░░░░░░░░ you later They spent ░░░░░░░░ two hours in my ░░░░░░░░ and they confiscated two ░░░░░░░░ my iphones and again ░░░░░░░░ phones contained a lot ░░░░░░░░ source information and reporter ░░░░░░░░ on them If these ░░░░░░░░ serious First Amendment issues ░░░░░░░░ donor information to our ░░░░░░░░ foundation so yeah it ░░░░░░░░ troubling And I asked ░░░░░░░░ speak with my attorney ░░░░░░░░ few times they allowed ░░░░░░░░ to do that but ░░░░░░░░ was kind of in ░░░░░░░░ state of shock frankly ░░░░░░░░ can t believe this ░░░░░░░░ happening Sean let me ░░░░░░░░ I m trying to ░░░░░░░░ this So a year ░░░░░░░░ you go to law ░░░░░░░░ on your own that ░░░░░░░░ have a source gives ░░░░░░░░ information you don t ░░░░░░░░ where it came from ░░░░░░░░ try to corroborate it ░░░░░░░░ re unable to do ░░░░░░░░ issues arise as to ░░░░░░░░ this might ve come ░░░░░░░░ You on your own ░░░░░░░░ year prior go to ░░░░░░░░ enforcement Did you hand ░░░░░░░░ to them at the ░░░░░░░░ this diary And did ░░░░░░░░ have any indication of ░░░░░░░░ the diary came from ░░░░░░░░ It came from the ░░░░░░░░ Sean as I said ░░░░░░░░ source gave us the ░░░░░░░░ and we didn t ░░░░░░░░ didn t know if ░░░░░░░░ was stolen or not ░░░░░░░░ don t know that ░░░░░░░░ journalist throughout the 20th ░░░░░░░░ have been journalists throughout ░░░░░░░░ 20th century have been ░░░░░░░░ information you know the ░░░░░░░░ Post and The New ░░░░░░░░ Times are given information ░░░░░░░░ all manner of institutions ░░░░░░░░ they are protected by ░░░░░░░░ Supreme Court of the ░░░░░░░░ States to publish that ░░░░░░░░ that a source gives ░░░░░░░░ them So there s ░░░░░░░░ distinction between Sean did ░░░░░░░░ ask you for the ░░░░░░░░ of the source Are ░░░░░░░░ going to protect that ░░░░░░░░ Well insofar that they ░░░░░░░░ my reporter s notes ░░░░░░░░ the phone they confiscated ░░░░░░░░ the predawn raid they ░░░░░░░░ access to the contents ░░░░░░░░ my iphone which is ░░░░░░░░ troubling and should outrage ░░░░░░░░ aclu and any other ░░░░░░░░ in the United States ░░░░░░░░ have access Sean doubled ░░░░░░░░ breath they don t ░░░░░░░░ All the contents for ░░░░░░░░ phone A letter go ░░░░░░░░ I sent him a ░░░░░░░░ I sent him a ░░░░░░░░ I let him know ░░░░░░░░ I represent James and ░░░░░░░░ the normal course the ░░░░░░░░ on the phone that ░░░░░░░░ are entitled to have ░░░░░░░░ have been produced promptly ░░░░░░░░ the other material on ░░░░░░░░ that is deeply troubling ░░░░░░░░ is a First Amendment ░░░░░░░░ s an assault go ░░░░░░░░ I m sorry Sean ░░░░░░░░ a scale of 1 ░░░░░░░░ 10 how damaging if ░░░░░░░░ turned out to be ░░░░░░░░ you haven t been ░░░░░░░░ to authenticated if it ░░░░░░░░ out to be true ░░░░░░░░ damaging would this be ░░░░░░░░ the president and his ░░░░░░░░ James Look you know ░░░░░░░░ answer to that I ░░░░░░░░ I could again I ░░░░░░░░ t authenticate the source ░░░░░░░░ I had a newsroom ░░░░░░░░ the time we were ░░░░░░░░ through it for a ░░░░░░░░ while We couldn t ░░░░░░░░ it so I decided ░░░░░░░░ to run it and ░░░░░░░░ m trying to figure ░░░░░░░░ what more we could ░░░░░░░░ done as journalists What ░░░░░░░░ could I have done ░░░░░░░░ not run the story ░░░░░░░░ handed it over to ░░░░░░░░ enforcement I don t ░░░░░░░░ what more we could ░░░░░░░░ done and so we ░░░░░░░░ not to publish the ░░░░░░░░ So what on earth ░░░░░░░░ what what action could ░░░░░░░░ have taken as reporters ░░░░░░░░ the action that we ░░░░░░░░ taken Sean you re ░░░░░░░░ a great question And ░░░░░░░░ did it take a ░░░░░░░░ to all right we ░░░░░░░░ going to continue to ░░░░░░░░ the story James o ░░░░░░░░ thank you Paul thank ░░░░░░░░ for being with us ░░░░░░░░ want to get more ░░░░░░░░ analysis of this is ░░░░░░░░ bring in Fox News ░░░░░░░░ analyst Gregg Jarrett It ░░░░░░░░ I will let you ░░░░░░░░ the professional here the ░░░░░░░░ papers I look at ░░░░░░░░ 6 3 landmark Supreme ░░░░░░░░ decision talk about stolen ░░░░░░░░ published by The New ░░░░░░░░ Times they won that ░░░░░░░░ when they joined the ░░░░░░░░ Post What is your ░░░░░░░░ on this case More ░░░░░░░░ when Donald Trump s ░░░░░░░░ returns were stolen did ░░░░░░░░ DoJ go and the ░░░░░░░░ go barging through the ░░░░░░░░ of journalists at The ░░░░░░░░ York Times Of course ░░░░░░░░ didn t What the ░░░░░░░░ District of New York ░░░░░░░░ Department of Justice has ░░░░░░░░ to James o keefe ░░░░░░░░ his fellow journalists is ░░░░░░░░ and its lawlessness And ░░░░░░░░ laughed a moment ago ░░░░░░░░ they said in the ░░░░░░░░ warrants the crime was ░░░░░░░░ as this prison a ░░░░░░░░ which is a dusty ░░░░░░░░ law that is a ░░░░░░░░ that is not enforced ░░░░░░░░ It says you have ░░░░░░░░ duty to notify law ░░░░░░░░ Today that only applies ░░░░░░░░ public officials First of ░░░░░░░░ this isn t a ░░░░░░░░ case This is a ░░░░░░░░ case I ve diary ░░░░░░░░ god sakes Why are ░░░░░░░░ feds in this Yes ░░░░░░░░ are nine federal statutes ░░░░░░░░ theft they all deal ░░░░░░░░ theft of government properly ░░░░░░░░ isn t government property ░░░░░░░░ second of all Merrick ░░░░░░░░ s dirty finger prints ░░░░░░░░ all over this because ░░░░░░░░ DoJ rules he has ░░░░░░░░ sign off on a ░░░░░░░░ or a subpoena f ░░░░░░░░ news organization Third this ░░░░░░░░ his order four months ░░░░░░░░ Merrick Garland there s ░░░░░░░░ signature Prohibiting warrants and ░░░░░░░░ on news organizations and ░░░░░░░░ relating to leaked cases ░░░░░░░░ the standards he sets ░░░░░░░░ here protection of First ░░░░░░░░ rights apply to this ░░░░░░░░ which he is no ░░░░░░░░ and finally ignored the ░░░░░░░░ regulations that require him ░░░░░░░░ the DoJ to recuse ░░░░░░░░ because of a conflict ░░░░░░░░ interest The president presides ░░░░░░░░ the DoJ The feds ░░░░░░░░ not allowed to investigate ░░░░░░░░ case involving an immediate ░░░░░░░░ member This is the ░░░░░░░░ and the politicization of ░░░░░░░░ DoJ and it s ░░░░░░░░ Sean apparently the source ░░░░░░░░ James o keefe said ░░░░░░░░ this diary was found ░░░░░░░░ The narrative of I ░░░░░░░░ the president s daughter ░░░░░░░░ that this was stolen ░░░░░░░░ has yet to be ░░░░░░░░ But that s what ░░░░░░░░ o keefe was told ░░░░░░░░ the fact that he ░░░░░░░░ t run the story ░░░░░░░░ he couldn t corroborate ░░░░░░░░ and he on his ░░░░░░░░ a year ago went ░░░░░░░░ law enforcement the question ░░░░░░░░ have is why now ░░░░░░░░ at this point what ░░░░░░░░ he do wrong here ░░░░░░░░ possible crime are we ░░░░░░░░ at here mack he ░░░░░░░░ nothing wrong and there ░░░░░░░░ no crime that he ░░░░░░░░ As I say misprision ░░░░░░░░ felony is an absolute ░░░░░░░░ and it underscores in ░░░░░░░░ mind that the prosecutors ░░░░░░░░ the southern districts are ░░░░░░░░ idiots or if they ░░░░░░░░ that that applies under ░░░░░░░░ circumstances He didn t ░░░░░░░░ it he handed it ░░░░░░░░ to law enforcement Sean ░░░░░░░░ is the FBI with ░░░░░░░░ predawn raid on his ░░░░░░░░ Look it s disappointing ░░░░░░░░ Christopher Wray would allow ░░░░░░░░ FBI to be misused ░░░░░░░░ abused by Merrick Garland ░░░░░░░░ Joe Biden s White ░░░░░░░░ in what is clearly ░░░░░░░░ political vendetta If you ░░░░░░░░ information derogatory about Joe ░░░░░░░░ Merrick Garland will come ░░░░░░░░ you with a vengeance ░░░░░░░░ law and the Constitution ░░░░░░░░ the First Amendment be ░░░░░░░░ Sean we know it ░░░░░░░░ politicized because Merrick Garland ░░░░░░░░ George s voting law ░░░░░░░░ is very accessible ignored ░░░░░░░░ s law They don ░░░░░░░░ have 17 days in ░░░░░░░░ early voting in Delaware ░░░░░░░░ do in Georgia They ░░░░░░░░ t have drop boxes ░░░░░░░░ in Delaware they have ░░░░░░░░ at every precinct in ░░░░░░░░ and both states have ░░░░░░░░ I d requirements so ░░░░░░░░ go after Georgia Why ░░░░░░░░ after Texas if you ░░░░░░░░ not politicizing why not ░░░░░░░░ after Joe Biden s ░░░░░░░░ voting state of Delaware ░░░░░░░░ proves a lot It ░░░░░░░░ corrupt.