Cokie Roberts: Detention Facilities ‘Just Creates More Terrorists’

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ROBERTS: "Well, the pipeline has been much more about politics than about oil and environmental protection and all of that. And the fact is that we know the reason it was postponed or killed was because of politics and now it’s back because of politics. And I think that is — that is a minor consideration these days. I just think everything else — as you say, everything else that is going on, it’s hard to focus on one thing. But I do think that if we are in the business today of doing all kinds of things that have the effect of creating terrorism abroad, which is what we know happens when we have things like these detention places where people have been, if you don’t want to use the word torture, they have been treated badly. And it just creates more terrorists. And my real concern here is that when somebody like General Mattis says that, does the President believe it? Because that’s where this question of crowd size and voter numbers and all of that stuff — those things themselves don’t matter much. What matters is does he believe facts when they are presented to him?"